not ur usual performance exhaust

1. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

   #1 8th July 2011, 21:53

   browsing ebay and found this
   
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAXO-106-RACE-...item2a0b92ffa0
   
   looks like a nice piece of kit. i bet its loud tho... we (us regular track day fools) need a new silent power exhaust, at least i think there is a gap in the market.
   
   can kam, gmc or other make one?
2. BIG Established Member Joined: Jul 2011 HERTS Posts: 1041 SILVER R

   #2 9th July 2011, 03:40

   That looks like a nice pipe tbh mate.
   
   One question quick as i dont want to be starting threads all over the gaff.
   
   Whats ur opinion on a piper cammed mk1 vts with full supersprint race exhaust system i think thats what it is without a silencer atm and has standard mani what db reading do you think that would give as your into track? i dont want to have to get a silencer its crazy loud ill post a pic and link of a vid and thanks in advance
3. BIG Established Member Joined: Jul 2011 HERTS Posts: 1041 SILVER R

   #3 9th July 2011, 03:40

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA5aI3fg3rU
4. BIG Established Member Joined: Jul 2011 HERTS Posts: 1041 SILVER R

   #4 9th July 2011, 03:41

   
5. BIG Established Member Joined: Jul 2011 HERTS Posts: 1041 SILVER R

   #5 9th July 2011, 03:41

   
6. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

   #6 9th July 2011, 06:34

   would imagine 95+
7. BIG Established Member Joined: Jul 2011 HERTS Posts: 1041 SILVER R

   #7 9th July 2011, 07:33

   Ive herd that its around 104 and people that have herd it in person agree its probally over the lmit for most circuts which is 102db :/
8. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #8 9th July 2011, 17:34

   actually we were taking to an engine builder a month or so back about making a stainless 2 1/4 for the saxo and 106. It has to be a twin box system to pass any sort of noise regs.
   What bhp are you running. Unless you are touching 200bhp theres no point.
9. BIG Established Member Joined: Jul 2011 HERTS Posts: 1041 SILVER R

   #9 10th July 2011, 03:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KamRacing actually we were taking to an engine builder a month or so back about making a stainless 2 1/4 for the saxo and 106. It has to be a twin box system to pass any sort of noise regs. What bhp are you running. Unless you are touching 200bhp theres no point.

   Okay thank you and its not 100 percent but vts with the same mods around 150-160 and thank you for that i can relax now
10. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #10 10th July 2011, 08:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing actually we were taking to an engine builder a month or so back about making a stainless 2 1/4 for the saxo and 106. It has to be a twin box system to pass any sort of noise regs. What bhp are you running. Unless you are touching 200bhp theres no point.

    me? est 160 cams, bodies standard head and pistons
11. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

    #11 10th July 2011, 08:30

    The exhaust is an Ashley , bit rough & ready but they get used loads on rally cars
    
    I had an Ashley 4-2-1 manifold , it was very light & quieter than my raceland
    
    
    We deffo need a quiet performance exhaust for track day exhaust
    
    I run a saxsport with a center silencer, it can pass the static but fails the drive by.
12. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #12 10th July 2011, 09:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing actually we were taking to an engine builder a month or so back about making a stainless 2 1/4 for the saxo and 106. It has to be a twin box system to pass any sort of noise regs. What bhp are you running. Unless you are touching 200bhp theres no point.

    Kam I would be very very interested in this, if you can make it happen before early next year it will be cheaper than going to a custom exhaust place that's for sure!
13. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #13 10th July 2011, 09:48

    We will certainly be doing one, certainly a few months away from starting development as we have to do a lot of work to the new unit.
14. LEE_VTR1 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 6476 RB RS 200

    #14 10th July 2011, 11:03

    will this be light kam? id be interested for sure because im boosting my 8v and a 2 1/4 inch exhaust would be spot on. im looking at running around 200hp boosted.
15. BIG Established Member Joined: Jul 2011 HERTS Posts: 1041 SILVER R

    #15 10th July 2011, 11:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jonathon5 The exhaust is an Ashley , bit rough & ready but they get used loads on rally cars I had an Ashley 4-2-1 manifold , it was very light & quieter than my raceland We deffo need a quiet performance exhaust for track day exhaust I run a saxsport with a center silencer, it can pass the static but fails the drive by.

    Now im worried again hhaa
16. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #16 10th July 2011, 11:28

    high power silent exhaust c'mon get them made!
17. xsi16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Ilkeston, Derbyshire Posts: 469 374 bhp Supercharged 205 GTI, Passat Estate

    #17 10th July 2011, 11:50

    I use an ashley on my 205. Its not too loud but it has 2 boxes.
18. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #18 10th July 2011, 12:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1 will this be light kam? id be interested for sure because im boosting my 8v and a 2 1/4 inch exhaust would be spot on. im looking at running around 200hp boosted.

    It will be as light as we can get it. A larger pipe will be heavier but not too much..
19. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

    #19 10th July 2011, 16:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing It will be as light as we can get it. A larger pipe will be heavier but not too much..

    Will a larger pipe diameter mean slow gas speeds if used on a mildly tuned car ?
20. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #20 10th July 2011, 16:55

    basically yes. Unless you are hitting 190bhp to 200bhp you are going to be fine with a well designed 50mm bore unless you want a rubbish midrange.
21. CitroenSport Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1984 MK2 VTS 153bhp

    #21 11th July 2011, 00:02

    So for a VTS with cams your taking about the usual exhaust's? i think mine if far far far too loud and would like a quieter one lol
    
    would a silencer in the supersprint center section affect performance?
22. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #22 11th July 2011, 08:57

    I use the supersprint with middle box it only 88 dB on static test so good for that and still just as good
23. BIG Established Member Joined: Jul 2011 HERTS Posts: 1041 SILVER R

    #23 11th July 2011, 23:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AndySAXO I use the supersprint with middle box it only 88 dB on static test so good for that and still just as good

    Thats good really full supersprint with mani aswell? and then the centre silencer or standard centre ?
24. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #24 12th July 2011, 07:48

    Middle box which is a middle silencer...... And with raceland mani.
    
    Without the middle box the supersprint is too loud... The middle box bring the noise right down.
25. BIG Established Member Joined: Jul 2011 HERTS Posts: 1041 SILVER R

    #25 12th July 2011, 15:01

    Okay cheers andy i suppose the best thiing to do would be to get it tested because personally dont want to get the middle box
    
    Do you know of the prices for the db readers etc or what would you suggest thanks