Piper 4 - 1 Manifold ?

17th July 2011, 12:57

I have a supersprint centre section and a piper back box and i was wondering has anyone else got this set up but with the 4 - 1 manifold?, Was wondering what it sounded like with this set up.

17th July 2011, 13:03

very raspy!

17th July 2011, 15:00

Not sure how any one could answer this question. Il try my best though, it sounds abit like

"br brbrbrbrbrbrb, BWARP ting bar boop ding BWARRRPping pong pow ting booom"

17th July 2011, 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by db_sax

Not sure how any one could answer this question. Il try my best though, it sounds abit like

"br brbrbrbrbrbrb, BWARP ting bar boop ding BWARRRPping pong pow ting booom"

lmfao

17th July 2011, 18:25

I had piper 4-1, supersprint race centre section with de-cat and no silencer, piper 3.5" back box and it was not raspy at all! More of a deep sound. Pops and bangs constantly.

17th July 2011, 18:46

It will be horrible on the motorway

I found with a piper 4-1 it had an awefull drone after about 65mph, mainly between 70-80mph, after 80 it tailed off.

But that was with a OMP Inox fitted, now I had I racelend 4 2 1 manifold fitted before and never got this sort of drone at all, so I put it down to the large collector on the 4-1

I would say supersprint 4-2-1 would be better tbh.

17th July 2011, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by db_sax

Not sure how any one could answer this question. Il try my best though, it sounds abit like

"br brbrbrbrbrbrb, BWARP ting bar boop ding BWARRRPping pong pow ting booom"

LMAO. You're hilarious.

17th July 2011, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by db_sax

Not sure how any one could answer this question. Il try my best though, it sounds abit like

"br brbrbrbrbrbrb, BWARP ting bar boop ding BWARRRPping pong pow ting booom"

joker

18th July 2011, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtr_chris90

It will be horrible on the motorway

I found with a piper 4-1 it had an awefull drone after about 65mph, mainly between 70-80mph, after 80 it tailed off.

But that was with a OMP Inox fitted, now I had I racelend 4 2 1 manifold fitted before and never got this sort of drone at all, so I put it down to the large collector on the 4-1

I would say supersprint 4-2-1 would be better tbh.

Would it be raspy and you have to change the oil filter don't you ?

18th July 2011, 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by db_sax

Not sure how any one could answer this question. Il try my best though, it sounds abit like

"br brbrbrbrbrbrb, BWARP ting bar boop ding BWARRRPping pong pow ting booom"

Sorry i guess it is hard to understand basically what would it sound like on a vtr ?

19th July 2011, 10:42

4-1's are a fair bit louder in general then 4-2-1's. Id go for a 4-2-1 defo.

19th July 2011, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustyM

4-1's are a fair bit louder in general then 4-2-1's. Id go for a 4-2-1 defo.

Why would you go for a 4-2-1 ?, And also what make ?

19th July 2011, 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by skitts

Why would you go for a 4-2-1 ?, And also what make ?

Id have the 4-2-1 purely because its quiter, iv only got a backbox on mine atm and its already as loud as i want it but i really wanna get rid of the cat and free up the exhaust system so its gonna have to get a little louder haha. Im gona have my manifold made up by the guy that does all my exhaust bits personally rather than buying off the shelf.

19th July 2011, 15:09

You may find this thread helpfull?
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55219

The bit that im guessing you will be most interested in is this:

"In many cases 4-into-1 headers are designed for racing applications where the vehicle is being driven at or near redline during competition. The 4-into-1 design maximizes top end power, whereas the 4-2-1 evenly distributes power throughout the power band. There are cases where a 4-into-1 header works better than the 4-2-1, and in those cases we will only manufacture a 4-into-1 design."

20th July 2011, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustyM

You may find this thread helpfull?
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55219

The bit that im guessing you will be most interested in is this:

"In many cases 4-into-1 headers are designed for racing applications where the vehicle is being driven at or near redline during competition. The 4-into-1 design maximizes top end power, whereas the 4-2-1 evenly distributes power throughout the power band. There are cases where a 4-into-1 header works better than the 4-2-1, and in those cases we will only manufacture a 4-into-1 design."

Cheers mate very helpful looks like it's a 4-2-1 then what sort of make is good?

20th July 2011, 14:49

People like the raceland from what iv read but you had to move the oil filer I think it is which may put you off?

20th July 2011, 22:44

Well my mate said he would be able to move it as there is a guide on here. Just wondering what everyone recommends.

21st July 2011, 12:33

just to let you know mate as know ones answered it, the supersprint mani on a mk2 vtr doesnt require you to move the oil filter, thats just the raceland mani

22nd July 2011, 23:26

How much are supersprint manifolds ?

23rd July 2011, 09:02

The Supersprint is the best quality manifold out there so it comes with a big price tag.
Supersprint 8v Manifold for Citroen Saxo

24th July 2011, 16:36

I think a raceland one will do, bit out of my range.

24th July 2011, 17:47

better order one quick as raceland are not making any more this year as they are moving, stock will run out.

24th July 2011, 20:45

I will get a second hand one off the for sale section.

24th July 2011, 21:54

If your on a bufget second hand is defo best

24th July 2011, 21:59

always wondered this, 4-2-1 better for midrange, 4-1 better top end revs.

when you've got your foot down, and ya going for it. where are ya revs?