throttle body/ turbo

1. user_53720 Newbie Joined: Jul 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 16 citroen saxo vts

   #1 25th July 2011, 23:15

   would it be possible to throttle body and turbo a saxo vts?
   
   and if so what sort of costs would i be looking at to get them at?
2. user_39871 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 wednesbury Posts: 451 Yes

   #2 25th July 2011, 23:19

   I know its possible seen a thread on it I think the persons selling the car now just don't know about the cost mate
3. user_53720 Newbie Joined: Jul 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 16 citroen saxo vts

   #3 25th July 2011, 23:25

   Ahh nice one mate do you think you could send the link my way?
   
   Don't worry bout the cost then mate. I don't have my vts yet i just want to get an idea on how much the whole project is going to cost.
4. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #4 25th July 2011, 23:27

   see 'your saxo photos' section
5. user_39871 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 wednesbury Posts: 451 Yes

   #5 25th July 2011, 23:32

   I'm on my phone mate an can't find it sory mate
6. user_53720 Newbie Joined: Jul 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 16 citroen saxo vts

   #6 25th July 2011, 23:51

   Ahh no worries them mate cheers for the help
7. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

   #7 26th July 2011, 14:26

   whats wiht all the mates? lol
   
   Why throttle body AND turbo? Pick either one unless you have DEEP pockets would be a bitch to set up
8. user_53720 Newbie Joined: Jul 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 16 citroen saxo vts

   #8 26th July 2011, 16:01

   well there are people sayin that you can do both and there are others saying you cant so i was just wondering if you could really lol.
   
   and I think when i get the car im going to throttle body it now
9. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #9 26th July 2011, 16:15

   You can do it but from what I've gleaned is that as you are pressurising the inlet tract with a turbo you might as well just have one throttle body feeding the cylinders instead of 4 individual ones and then having to build an suitable inlet to accommodate the air coming from the turbo. I believe some engines rub a TB'd and turbo'd setup but at the end of the day it costs big bucks?
10. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

    #10 26th July 2011, 16:15

    You can do both, but it is tricky to do and difficult to set up right you would need somebody who really knows what they are doing. Then you have to consider that if your forking out for turbo and throttle bodies you could just use that extra money on a bigger turbo instead of the bodies and make more power easier.
    
    Throttle bodies is the cheapest route to go
11. e8_pqck Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2010 Midlands Posts: 2530 AX 16v Turbo

    #11 26th July 2011, 16:21

    throttle bodies is cheapest, but for (imo) not much gain. The power gains are really in the mapping and quality/ability of the standalone ECU that you use.
12. miamibluebaby Established Member Joined: May 2009 Ellesmere (Shropshire) Posts: 1044 superchared 106 gti

    #12 26th July 2011, 17:43

    why not supercharge it to?
13. user_53720 Newbie Joined: Jul 2011 Wiltshire Posts: 16 citroen saxo vts

    #13 26th July 2011, 19:42

    Thanks for the replies guys Im probably going to speak to GMC or some other company that does both and get their opinions on it and how it would be best to go about doing it.
14. atspeedracing Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 ESSEX Posts: 727 106 GTi Turbo

    #14 26th July 2011, 19:48

    yes do-able. but on forced induction no real gain over a common inlet with single large throttle body, especially with correctly designed trumpets etc. like DP alloy intake.
    
    blocks85 has done ITBs with sealed plenum and turbo.
    
    however even the stock inlet works pretty well. easy 300+bhp on stock inlet.
    
    - colin
15. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #15 26th July 2011, 19:52

    I'm going to run 70mm itb's and a c38 rotrex to feed a gt40 turbo...
16. tom_lloyd_4 Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 alton hampshire Posts: 348 97 mk1 vtr 85 LR 90

    #16 27th July 2011, 03:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannygti I'm going to run 70mm itb's and a c38 rotrex to feed a gt40 turbo...

    is that even posable
17. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

    #17 27th July 2011, 08:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by atspeedracing yes do-able. but on forced induction no real gain over a common inlet with single large throttle body, especially with correctly designed trumpets etc. like DP alloy intake. blocks85 has done ITBs with sealed plenum and turbo. however even the stock inlet works pretty well. easy 300+bhp on stock inlet. - colin

    300bhp on the stock plastic intake?
    
    The only thing stopping me from winding mine up is im worried its going to eat the inlet, but if people are doing 300 on the same type of inlet then its all good
18. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #18 27th July 2011, 17:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jungle 300bhp on the stock plastic intake? The only thing stopping me from winding mine up is im worried its going to eat the inlet, but if people are doing 300 on the same type of inlet then its all good

    why not fit an s1 rallye inlet mate? im running one?
    
    and the 300bhp he speaks of is 16v...alot more boost required o get an 8v to 300bhp which would most probs crack the stock one!
19. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

    #19 28th July 2011, 08:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 why not fit an s1 rallye inlet mate? im running one? and the 300bhp he speaks of is 16v...alot more boost required o get an 8v to 300bhp which would most probs crack the stock one!

    because im lazy lol. I keep meaning to buy one but keep putting it off lol i will do soon, is it a lot of messing about?
20. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #20 28th July 2011, 08:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannygti I'm going to run 70mm itb's and a c38 rotrex to feed a gt40 turbo...

    WHY ??
    you can get more power than the block + g/box can stand with either the s/c or the turbo and you only have 2 wd drive so its totally pointless.
21. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

    #21 28th July 2011, 09:14

    think he was taking the piss lol