Baffled Sump/plates

2nd August 2011, 10:07

Does anyone make a full baffled sump or just the plate, and is it worth running one on an 8v track car?

2nd August 2011, 21:26

make your own. easy enough, sure pugsport "used" to make one, but may have been someone else???

normally expensive to buy

2nd August 2011, 22:42

Id need the bugger welding up, no welder of my own. Im quite surprised there isnt someone making them on here, usually some is making something aftermarket!
Who runs one on their track car and who doesnt?

2nd August 2011, 22:46

from what ive seen the constella one is about the best for the money as a bolt in one

its what i plan to fit there a very good idea on any car that gets a large lateral g load imo as they stop the oil slushing away from the pump so you dont loose oil pressure whilst cornering hard and will prolong your engines life so doesnt matter 8 or 16v tbh

similar principal to a foam filled tank stopping fuel surge and so often overlooked things on cars that get used hard

2nd August 2011, 22:59

I use one on my track car, well worth it imo

2nd August 2011, 22:59

Pugsport made a baffled kit.

They're a bit more intiricate than a simple plate and cheaper than a mullered engine.

Alex I'm surprised toads engine doesn't have one, would have thought pulloneoff would have at least thought it would be a good idea.

2nd August 2011, 23:05

I run a constella one. Sump is coming off in next few says - I'll try and get pics. Well worth the small investment to protect the big investment!

2nd August 2011, 23:19

What is the going price of the constella ones? Granted my engine isn't a high power build or expensive but I'd rather it not die of starvation and cause me another engine swap

2nd August 2011, 23:23

I got mine unused but secondhand so don't know im afraid. But if it's for a road car it's not such a big problem. If you're running sticky tires on track then it's much more important. I guess it's down to how hard you're gonna drive

2nd August 2011, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Gandi699

What is the going price of the constella ones? Granted my engine isn't a high power build or expensive but I'd rather it not die of starvation and cause me another engine swap

Were on offer at 120 rather than 169 a few weeks back......

Trying to get one too!

Ross I've pmd you again

2nd August 2011, 23:34

Mines a pugsport kit, definitely as Ryan says, more than a bit of metal with a hole in it.

Mine has trap doors to let the oil flow in but not out of certain areas, and is specifically boxes around the pump.

I'm surprised you don't have one as well Alex, I guess I just assumed having a highly tuned NA engine like that it would have one on it!

2nd August 2011, 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

Pugsport made a baffled kit.

They're a bit more intiricate than a simple plate and cheaper than a mullered engine.

Alex I'm surprised toads engine doesn't have one, would have thought pulloneoff would have at least thought it would be a good idea.

He had one but it never got fitted iirc
Its been high on the to do list since i got the motor but everything else ended up taking priority breaking lol

its getting purchased before the clutch so that i have to fit it before the car can be used again as tbh i dont fancy a mullered motor

2nd August 2011, 23:39

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Originally Posted by RossDagley

I got mine unused but secondhand so don't know im afraid. But if it's for a road car it's not such a big problem. If you're running sticky tires on track then it's much more important. I guess it's down to how hard you're gonna drive

Its going to get a thrashing on the track believe me, but best to future proof too in my view and its always something I can sell in future

2nd August 2011, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

He had one but it never got fitted iirc
Its been high on the to do list since i got the motor but everything else ended up taking priority breaking lol

its getting purchased before the clutch so that i have to fit it before the car can be used again as tbh i dont fancy a mullered motor

Guess they were more worried about passing the buck for mullering an engine than fitting the sump kit then

2nd August 2011, 23:44

Something like that man
I keep out of all that just happy the motor goes well lol

As said its on the list for mine now as tbh it is needed

3rd August 2011, 09:43

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Guess they were more worried about passing the buck for mullering an engine than fitting the sump kit then

ouch!

3rd August 2011, 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by RossDagley

ouch!

assuming you hadnt heard about all that ross?

somehow someone didnt check valve clearances (oversized valves) to the piston cutouts and a valve snapped off on the rollers at northampton
there was lots of argueing and in the end the motor i now have was build for dave at some cost

anyway back on topic

http://www.constella.co.uk/index.php...k=1&Itemid=146

http://www.specialtuninguk.co.uk/aca...affle_Kit.html

few links so you can see the sort of stuff that goes into the bolt in kits and how they are a lot more than just a plate in the sump

3rd August 2011, 10:05

no mate i didn't hear about that at all

Is there a thread on it? I had a similar issue if you remember with the springs binding - cost me a camshaft, a set of valves, and buckets (and a £500 mapping session!).

Back on topic as you say - my baffle has a little flap in it too - quite a complex little thing to make by the looks of it! Deffo I have a constella one looking at that pic - not the Peugeot Sport one. Recommended!

3rd August 2011, 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by RossDagley

no mate i didn't hear about that at all

Is there a thread on it? I had a similar issue if you remember with the springs binding - cost me a camshaft, a set of valves, and buckets (and a £500 mapping session!).

Back on topic as you say - my baffle has a little flap in it too - quite a complex little thing to make by the looks of it! Deffo I have a constella one looking at that pic - not the Peugeot Sport one. Recommended!

i remember you saying about squared off cams yea man

and yea the main difference is the constella iirc bolts onto the actual sump bolts
the pugsport one goes on with the crank bolts
but they both have flappy doors and bits in the design

3rd August 2011, 13:52

Thinking of getting the constella one too, Bit easier than the pugsport one but you need to remove the pump to fit.

Full guide here, http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2...ad.php?t=76154

4th August 2011, 01:20

i have the constella one, its about £180. will take some pics of it tomoz as engine is out at the moment