1 plug or 3 plug?

1. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

   #1 7th August 2011, 19:28

   Right i dont often come in here often and have no previous experiance with the 16v's so youll need to be paitent with me
   
   Looking into doing a 16v conversion on a car does it matter if i choose to use the 1 plug or 3 plug? is one better than the other?? ive got a short list of required bits consisting of
   
   engine
   loom
   box
   shafts
   mani
   key
   transponder
   
   advice?
2. wolf_gsxr Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 wigan Posts: 778

   #2 7th August 2011, 19:33

   If the car it's going in is a 3 plug then a 3 plug engine loom and ecu is needed as the interior loom needs to connect to it. Same with single plug.
3. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

   #3 7th August 2011, 19:35

   It would be going into a s1 106 though so the loomll be cut?
4. wolf_gsxr Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 wigan Posts: 778

   #4 7th August 2011, 23:25

   I'd use a single plug then as it's earlier. You may need to change the connection going to the interior loom. As i think the s1 is different
5. ryanmt Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5

   #5 8th August 2011, 10:19

   Ide go with the single plug personally as theyre more common and easier to work with. Wiring wise its the same amount of work really but there is more info out there on the single plug.
   
   If you need anybody to convert the loom (3 plug or single) send me a PM
6. ecurepair Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 110

   #6 8th August 2011, 15:52

   One plug are cheaper as well, :-)
   
   Thanks.
7. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

   #7 9th August 2011, 12:02

   Cheers guys, ill bear that in mind.
8. dan-sport Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 236

   #8 9th August 2011, 12:05

   one plug will be better anyway as only one lamba sensor
9. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

   #9 9th August 2011, 12:12

   Yer i was reading that on rallye reg last night.
10. moxy89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Southampton Posts: 8188 Astra vxr with added boost

    #10 9th August 2011, 12:15

    3 plug, as the predator is made for them!!!!!
11. dan-sport Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 236

    #11 9th August 2011, 12:32

    with the 3 plug and second lamba you have to sleeve it if you put a new exhaust on ect which if not done right could bring engine light on all the time, so much easier just to have the one and have it where it should be
12. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #12 10th August 2011, 14:12

    single plugs respond to tuning slightly better
13. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #13 10th August 2011, 14:44

    single plug, unless you have a bent 3plug saxo donor car to use everything from in 1 go.
    
    No messing about trying to find parts simple remove it all and refit to other shell.

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14. LeandroX L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Portugal Posts: 49 Saxo vts

    #14 18th August 2011, 00:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeM single plugs respond to tuning slightly better

    x2 im in process of converting to single plug because of that...its a pain to get it all sorted...if there only were a diy out there...
15. ryanmt Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5

    #15 18th August 2011, 11:35

    The downsides of converting down to single plug is you loose the ecu controlled fan meaning you have to get a thermostat fitted into the system somewhere.
16. LeandroX L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Portugal Posts: 49 Saxo vts

    #16 18th August 2011, 13:15

    humm to keep all the sensor plug's from the mk2 loom is a good ideia to just cut the 3 plug's from the ecu and wire the single plug there?
17. ryanmt Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5

    #17 18th August 2011, 14:17

    you can if you want to, personally ide just get the right sensors as the less cutting on an engine loom the better.
    
    Watch out for the coilpack, the grey plug can be converted to run on a single plug (the opposite is true for the black plug and a 3 plug engine though)
18. LeandroX L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Portugal Posts: 49 Saxo vts

    #18 18th August 2011, 19:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ryanmt you can if you want to, personally ide just get the right sensors as the less cutting on an engine loom the better. Watch out for the coilpack, the grey plug can be converted to run on a single plug (the opposite is true for the black plug and a 3 plug engine though)

    ok so i need to know all the pins from each loom to do the conversion...