Newman ph3 owners

27th August 2011, 15:23

Just got a set of these for the gti but don't have a timing up chart, does anyone no the timings for these or have a chart guide.
Thanks

27th August 2011, 19:27

Anyone

27th August 2011, 20:49

Been looking at getting these for my vts, from reading on this site they run on standard timing. But vts/ gti cam pulleys are adjustable so I was just going to make sure mine are in the middle of their range of adjustment when I fit them and leave the cam covers off when I take it for mapping so the timing can be adjusted if needs be.

How much did u pay for your cams if you don't mind me asking and what other plans have u got? Looks like you're heading in a similar direction to where I want to go with mine!

27th August 2011, 20:51

Ok mate cool, thanks.
Ye I'm getting the cams fitted next week and then I'm going throttle bodies then re mapped.
Think that will be the stage that I would want it at without having to do anymore.

27th August 2011, 20:53

Also I payed £265 for these collected off a member on here. Brand new unopened.

27th August 2011, 21:04

sounds good i may have to get some as i wont throttle bodies at some time

27th August 2011, 21:22

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Originally Posted by toxic

sounds good i may have to get some as i wont throttle bodies at some time

Defo best to get cams before you get throttle bodies.
I've heard so many people say not to throttle body it without camming it first.
Also I went for the Newman ph3 cams as there the wildest cams available without changing pistons etc.
Also the cat cams are pretty much the same too, think it's just down to Wich ever ones you decide to go for really.

27th August 2011, 22:12

Think I know the ones from the classifieds? Was thinking about them but decided I'd rather find another 30 quid and get some brand brand new from kam or wherever.

So what bodies are u gonna go for? I was planning on keeping my standard inlet and tb, but if there's good gains at a cheap price to be had with bodies I might have to think about them!

28th August 2011, 08:07

Ye there were brand new mate unopened.
I'm going for the AT power throttle bodies.

28th August 2011, 11:26

I think someone on here advised on retarding the exhaust cam a little b4 re-map when beddin the cams in!! Might b wrong though!!

Jon

28th August 2011, 11:33

I'm pretty sure the newmans site has the timing for these cams.

Plus you'll want to double check whether they need running in or not with Newmans

28th August 2011, 11:43

Think it also says on the Newman website they dont really need runnin in!! For me though might b a week or two before I can get mapped so wld need to adjust cams for a little while so they dnt drive like a complete sack of shit!!

Jon

28th August 2011, 11:52

Ok guys so cos I'm not getting a re map straight away due to waiting until I've got the bodies am I right in saying if I just get them fitted will the timings just be set up correctly when I do take it for a re map.
If this is correct will I still see any benefits with they fitted.
Thanks

28th August 2011, 12:01

Only a little, u will feel a slight gain by sounds of things, it will hav more urge but won't c the full benefit till it's mapped!! And it may idle a bit shit and cut out ocasonialy iv been told! Dyin to get mine fitted now, jst a matter of funds! Always the way!

Jon

28th August 2011, 12:07

That's same as me mate can't buy something and have it lying around waiting to be fitted lol.
Will just be doing my head it wanting it re mapped but will just have to be sensible and wait till I've got the bodies so I don't have to pay twice to have it mapped but hey ho.

28th August 2011, 12:49

It will run shit unmapped but still drivable.

Timing is on the newmans website.

Where you getting it mapped?

28th August 2011, 12:57

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Originally Posted by Steve

It will run shit unmapped but still drivable.

Timing is on the newmans website.

Where you getting it mapped?

Cheers mate.
Havent really got anyone lined up to do the re map yet but have heard a lot of good things said about chip wizards.

28th August 2011, 13:05

chipwizards will give you mega bhp reading but its not always true from what i've read

28th August 2011, 13:11

ok mate, anyone reccomend places that will do it and have good rep,

28th August 2011, 13:15

my mate has a 106 gti with similar mods to mine but he has bodies and he had it mapped at chip wizards and he got:
161.1 Bhp Atf & 140.7 Atw
would have thought this is a very realistic figure.

30th August 2011, 18:22

All sorted got in touch with Newman website and they kindly emailed me the correct timing up etc.

1st September 2011, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by ldavies

Defo best to get cams before you get throttle bodies.
I've heard so many people say not to throttle body it without camming it first.
Also I went for the Newman ph3 cams as there the wildest cams available without changing pistons etc.
Also the cat cams are pretty much the same too, think it's just down to Wich ever ones you decide to go for really.

yes i will get the cams first then throttle bodies, dont know what 1s yet. what throttle bodies are the best for the money

1st September 2011, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxic

yes i will get the cams first then throttle bodies, dont know what 1s yet. what throttle bodies are the best for the money

AT power bodies mate, there the ones I'm going for.

1st September 2011, 21:19

Wouldn't say atpower are the best.

One of the easiest, to fit and get running on.

But would say that bike bodies conversion ones, maybe best overall bodies.

No really answer to the best, if I did it again I would of used bike bodies over the at power ones I have. ( got them cheaper than the standard price)

3rd September 2011, 09:52

I got these cams new in box and ported polished head for £350 delivered of eBay, they run terribly on standard ECU a have to tick over between 1200-1600 to run and retard ignition loads! O as mine was 3pin ECU only Wayne at chipwizard and one other person could map it he spent 6hrs doing it 3yrs ago now and has never let me down once! I do atleast 6 trackdays a year and have numerous in car videos to see how quick mine is! The difference over standard is amazing it'slike going from a 1.0 to vts! Hope this helps

3rd September 2011, 18:14

sounds good to me

my vts engine goes in on the 17 sep mine is ported and polished as well will get cams soon, thats good for 350 for the head mine was 500.

3rd September 2011, 18:20

i liked them. only felt the difference when i went back to standard. It's all in the mapping and the ECU. i got 165 with a hydra nemesis and was mapped by richard bulmer at traktive. i got ecu cheap really and sold it cheap! look for a second hand KMS or something - best way.

3rd September 2011, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by e8_pqck

i liked them. only felt the difference when i went back to standard. It's all in the mapping and the ECU. i got 165 with a hydra nemesis and was mapped by richard bulmer at traktive. i got ecu cheap really and sold it cheap! look for a second hand KMS or something - best way.

Is that just like a dastek unichip?

3rd September 2011, 19:39

no its an aftermarket ecu

4th September 2011, 06:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxic

sounds good to me

my vts engine goes in on the 17 sep mine is ported and polished as well will get cams soon, thats good for 350 for the head mine was 500.

I paid £350 for the head and brand new cams was a bargain