blacktop head on silvertop vtr

1. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #1 28th August 2011, 21:04

   as above, ive not much experience with the blacktop, but looking into fitting one to my vtr...
   
   what's involved in the swap? ive got a 90bhp silvertop running standalone... do the blacktops run a distributor?
2. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #2 28th August 2011, 21:20

   head is the same just it runs solid rockers you will need to get a 106 1.4 xr fuel rail so you can keep using the fat injectors and keep the single fuel inlet bit ill dig out part nbumber for you
3. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #3 28th August 2011, 21:22

   so it doesnt run a dizzy? just the old AX's run a dizzy yeah?
   
   does the mk2 coilpack etc fit on? or will i need the old one with leads aswell?
   
   cheers gav
4. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #4 28th August 2011, 21:25

   nah runs old style coilpack and ht leads which you will need to fit aswell the mk2 coilpack may fit but not tried best bet is to fit one onto spare head and see if it all clicks ok
5. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #5 28th August 2011, 21:28

   hmmm, more moneys, thought this would be the case, there wont be anywhere to bolt the pack down on the blacktop either, not sure id be able to fit the old coilpack on with the boost pipes etc in aswell...
6. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #6 28th August 2011, 21:33

   why not just rebuild yours? or is this the mega skimmed one? if its a 90bhp head i may have one still you can have for postage to play with
7. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #7 28th August 2011, 21:44

   its shuggles' one, its a big valve, and blacktop runs solid lifter so would be a bonus for rev limit... but doesnt look like its gonna be a feasable option unless i can run the mk2 coilpack etc, as wont cot me more and wont have to fuck about trying to get it all in place and fit up
8. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #8 28th August 2011, 21:47

   i would say if you got a spare coilpack see if it will fit the blacktop head best case to test
9. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #9 28th August 2011, 21:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush i would say if you got a spare coilpack see if it will fit the blacktop head best case to test

   got a coilpack, just dont have the head lol, ive pm'd a few ppl that may be able to shed some light..
10. Aksel Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Denmark Posts: 193 Mk2 VTR

    #10 29th August 2011, 21:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush head is the same just it runs solid rockers you will need to get a 106 1.4 xr fuel rail so you can keep using the fat injectors and keep the single fuel inlet bit ill dig out part nbumber for you

    I am looking to do the same thing.... When you say fat injectors which do you mean? Can i run standard silvertop 90hp injectors on the blacktop head?
11. Aksel Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Denmark Posts: 193 Mk2 VTR

    #11 29th August 2011, 21:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 got a coilpack, just dont have the head lol, ive pm'd a few ppl that may be able to shed some light..

    Please do share if find out.... I am considering doing the same thing....
12. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #12 29th August 2011, 21:07

    f you change to the 1.4 106 fuel rail then yes by the looks of it
13. vtr_chris90 Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 nuneaton Posts: 1796 LY R26

    #13 29th August 2011, 22:30

    In regards to the coil pack, the silvertop one will physically fit on there and it will run
    I did this when I fitted a s1 Rallye head, to my silvertop vtr.
    But the car had a slight missfire, the car had diagnostics (good expensive kit, not a code reader) on several times and nothing came up, all live date was fine.
    
    Changed plus still no different
    
    Switched to leads and old type coilpack and problem went
    
    So on that bases I'd say chances are your current coil pack won't run properly. This is just what I found on my car.
    
    I do have a coilpack spare, along with the plug needed that fits. But with the plug I cut the wires back as I could, so it actually has the original 90bhp silvertop ones on there which should make re wiring a bit easier, cause when I did it we tried using numbers on the plugs etc etc but nothing matched lol so just did trial and error in the end then when finished and got the right combination I just deleted all the fault codes.
    
    If you fancy the coil and plug let me know, I also have a set of magnecor 8.5mm ht leads, coil and leads have covered about 6k I'd say and were bought new. 65posted for the lot if you fancy it. Drop me pm if your interested.