Newman 270 rally cam

1. Jiggins L-plater Joined: Aug 2011 Essex Posts: 38 Saxo vtr turbo

   #1 11th September 2011, 10:51

   Got a saxo vtr. And fitted my Newman cam yesterday, its the 270 degree rally cam.
   I ordered it from Newman.
   Basically I've fitted it and it's made NO difference the engine still run spot on no lumpy idle no nothing ! And if anything it seems a little slower !
   
   Any ideas? Anyone ?
2. ldavies Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Driving my GTI Posts: 2659 Boosted 106 GTI 16V Supercharged

   #2 11th September 2011, 11:04

   Does it say these require a re map?
3. user_37194 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 rotherham Posts: 1832 Be scirocco, full on 03plate track spec Saxo

   #3 11th September 2011, 11:07

   timed it up correct?
4. ldavies Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Driving my GTI Posts: 2659 Boosted 106 GTI 16V Supercharged

   #4 11th September 2011, 11:10

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mark1311 timed it up correct?

   As mark said.
   If they don't require a re map I would stay clear of them myself.
   Got the ph3 newmans fitted now mark, just waiting on getting predator at end of month now.
5. Jiggins L-plater Joined: Aug 2011 Essex Posts: 38 Saxo vtr turbo

   #5 11th September 2011, 11:26

   Yup it's timed up spot on.
   Yeah it says on the site that it won't run on standard injection and will require a remap.
   All I can think of doing is advancing the timing on the vernier.
6. ldavies Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Driving my GTI Posts: 2659 Boosted 106 GTI 16V Supercharged

   #6 11th September 2011, 11:30

   Ive just fitted my phase 3 and heres the outcome of the car idling without a re map.
   
   
7. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #7 11th September 2011, 11:47

   Did you buy an adjustable pulley?
8. Jiggins L-plater Joined: Aug 2011 Essex Posts: 38 Saxo vtr turbo

   #8 11th September 2011, 11:52

   Yup got a vernier pulley
9. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #9 11th September 2011, 11:59

   First off have you had it mapped then?
   
   Looks like this cam needs a remap and timing tweeked on a dyno, and also don't know what you was expecting? Massive increase? Would of seen more from getting a standard vts engine.
   
   Anyway get it mapped next should see some increase, to get the most out of the cam will need a remap I guess.
10. Jiggins L-plater Joined: Aug 2011 Essex Posts: 38 Saxo vtr turbo

    #10 11th September 2011, 12:00

    Random but ldavies your pug looks Awsome!
    Makes me want to go get another one lol.
11. Jiggins L-plater Joined: Aug 2011 Essex Posts: 38 Saxo vtr turbo

    #11 11th September 2011, 12:02

    Yeah I know I should of just chucked a 16v lump in
    Well I wasn't expecting massive gains but I was expecting at least a little difference
12. ldavies Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Driving my GTI Posts: 2659 Boosted 106 GTI 16V Supercharged

    #12 11th September 2011, 12:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jiggins Random but ldavies your pug looks Awsome! Makes me want to go get another one lol.

    Cheers mate I'm happy with it.
    Plenty of pictures in my progress thread.
    Maybe your best of getting it re mapped mate, you will see the performance gains then.
13. Jiggins L-plater Joined: Aug 2011 Essex Posts: 38 Saxo vtr turbo

    #13 11th September 2011, 12:32

    I probs won't get a remap till I've fittedy throttle bodies
14. ldavies Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Driving my GTI Posts: 2659 Boosted 106 GTI 16V Supercharged

    #14 11th September 2011, 13:08

    Can you get bodies for 8v. Ive always thought you couldn't, only 16v.
    Anyone prove me right or wrong.
15. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #15 11th September 2011, 13:11

    i ph3'd my vtr, with rallye inlet, green induction, 4-2-1, straight through
    
    i had to adjut the timing to fuck to get some power out of it, still was shit, worst mod ive ever done for the price
    
    hence i wnet turbo
16. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #16 11th September 2011, 13:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ldavies Can you get bodies for 8v. Ive always thought you couldn't, only 16v. Anyone prove me right or wrong.

    Yes you can.
17. ldavies Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Driving my GTI Posts: 2659 Boosted 106 GTI 16V Supercharged

    #17 11th September 2011, 13:22

    I put Kent cams in my 1st vtr mk2 and after spending 330.00 on camshaft plus pulley and then labour on top of that would have been cheaper to get a 16v lump but did notice a little difference but no where near what they claim you will get.
    Still had great fun with it and made me even more happy when I got the gti.
    Best thing to do is just look forward to getting a 16v after the vtr if your still in to saxos / peugeots.
18. ldavies Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Driving my GTI Posts: 2659 Boosted 106 GTI 16V Supercharged

    #18 11th September 2011, 13:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr_P Yes you can.

    Learn something new everyday, never seen them available for the 8v engine.
19. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #19 11th September 2011, 14:13

    sandy brown/colin satchell gsxr set ups have seen 160bh+ from 8vs with some money thrown at them
20. Jiggins L-plater Joined: Aug 2011 Essex Posts: 38 Saxo vtr turbo

    #20 11th September 2011, 16:07

    I've Used R1 bodies and made a manifold to fit
    I'm a mechanic so I fitted the cam myself and a friend in the motorsport business got me the cam and pulley and only cost me £250.
    If I don't see any gains after my bodies have gone on I'll chuck a blower on it .
    Got a couple of turbos Layin around at work.