Saxo vtr manifold for mk2

17th September 2011, 22:18

Say a mk2 manifold has 2 holes for the lambda sensors? if i plug in my lambda sensors into those holes will i still get engine management light on?

If the light will be on with the mk2 manifold, I might aswell just get a mk1 manifold plug one lambda sensor in the manifold and sleeve the other so i dont get engine management light on?

17th September 2011, 22:20

tbh, its a saxo. you'll probably have the engine management light on what ever you do haha.

17th September 2011, 22:54

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Originally Posted by rick_VTR

tbh, its a saxo. you'll probably have the engine management light on what ever you do haha.

Not if you sleeve the lambda sensor

18th September 2011, 02:20

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Originally Posted by ChAdS

Say a mk2 manifold has 2 holes for the lambda sensors? if i plug in my lambda sensors into those holes will i still get engine management light on?

If the light will be on with the mk2 manifold, I might aswell just get a mk1 manifold plug one lambda sensor in the manifold and sleeve the other so i dont get engine management light on?

The first/front/top lambda must ALWAYS be plugged in or car will run in limp mode.

Second lambda, do what the hell you like with it as long as its plugged in. Sleeving isn't needed to prevent the management light it just keeps dust and moisture off the end of the sensor!

18th September 2011, 03:06

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Originally Posted by SteveWC

The first/front/top lambda must ALWAYS be plugged in or car will run in limp mode.

Second lambda, do what the hell you like with it as long as its plugged in. Sleeving isn't needed to prevent the management light it just keeps dust and moisture off the end of the sensor!

no it wont

and the manis only have 1 lambda hole... the second lambda is sleeved, the diff between mk1 and 2 is whether is sweeps pas the mk2 oil filter or not

18th September 2011, 11:49

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

no it wont

and the manis only have 1 lambda hole... the second lambda is sleeved, the diff between mk1 and 2 is whether is sweeps pas the mk2 oil filter or not

So either if i got a mk2 or mk1 manifold they both only have one lamdba sensor hole?

Will the top lamdba sensor even reach right down and plug in?

18th September 2011, 12:23

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

no it wont

and the manis only have 1 lambda hole... the second lambda is sleeved, the diff between mk1 and 2 is whether is sweeps pas the mk2 oil filter or not

what are you talking about dude?

Mark 2 saxos have two lambda plugs which are both plugged into the top and bottom of the manifold, you take the second out because aftermarkets only have one hole and leave it plugged in, like I said sleeving isn't necessary at all its just to protect the delicate sensor

Oh and I dunno about limp mode then but the ECUs definitely not gonna get the air/fuel mixture as accurate as it could....

18th September 2011, 15:06

Well here is the problem, if i buy a MK2 manifold with 2 holes in for lambda sensors and i plug them both in engine management light will come on which i dont want?

So if i buy a mk1 manifold and plug in the top sensor to the botton lambda sensor hole in the manifold and sleeve the other. BUT will that top lambda sensor reach all the way to the bottom hole, wire does not seem long enough to me to reach?

19th September 2011, 14:31

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Originally Posted by ChAdS

if i buy a MK2 manifold with 2 holes in for lambda sensors and i plug them both in engine management light will come on

Right well this means you have a broken lambda sensor then and the ECU is unable to take an oxygen reading from the sensor.

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Originally Posted by ChAdS

So if i buy a mk1 manifold and plug in the top sensor to the botton lambda sensor hole

There is only one hole in a mk1 manifold, plug in the lambda and connect it to the green ECU lambda plug.

Plug your other lambda into the blue ECU plug and leave it hanging somewhere in the bay.

You really need to explain yourself better.

It isn't actually the position of the sensor in the exhaust which matters, its the plugs on the ECU.

The green plug is the one which gives it the reading it needs, and the green plug lambda must always be in an exhaust and connected to the ECU for the car to run properly.

The blue plug lambda is the second and un-needed lambda. This can be placed anywhere in the engine bay dangling, a sleeve is not required whatsoever this is just to protect the delicate sensor as I have said over and over and over again.

What do people think is the more harsh environment for a lambda sensor sitting in a 900 degree exhaust manifold? Or dangling in a luke warm engine bay? I think its pretty obvious....

19th September 2011, 14:33

Oh and were your old ones a bitch to remove? Chances are if you cooked one with a blowtorch its now fooked.

19th September 2011, 14:36

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Originally Posted by SteveWC

Right well this means you have a broken lambda sensor then and the ECU is unable to take an oxygen reading from the sensor.

There is only one hole in a mk1 manifold, plug in the lambda and connect it to the green ECU lambda plug.

Plug your other lambda into the blue ECU plug and leave it hanging somewhere in the bay.

You really need to explain yourself better.

It isn't actually the position of the sensor in the exhaust which matters, its the plugs on the ECU.

The green plug is the one which gives it the reading it needs, and the green plug lambda must always be in an exhaust and connected to the ECU for the car to run properly.

The blue plug lambda is the second and un-needed lambda. This can be placed anywhere in the engine bay dangling, a sleeve is not required whatsoever this is just to protect the delicate sensor as I have said over and over and over again.

What do people think is the more harsh environment for a lambda sensor sitting in a 900 degree exhaust manifold? Or dangling in a luke warm engine bay? I think its pretty obvious....

You have not answered my question, you have basically said there what i already know. What you on about broken lambda sensor for? I have not even got the manifold yet!

All I asked is if i was to get a mk2 manifold with 2 lambda sensor holes in if i plugged both lambda sensors in will i get engine management light on.

19th September 2011, 14:38

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Originally Posted by SteveWC

Oh and were your old ones a bitch to remove? Chances are if you cooked one with a blowtorch its now fooked.

What you on about ? Read the hole thread again.

19th September 2011, 21:04

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Originally Posted by ChAdS

You have not answered my question, you have basically said there what i already know. What you on about broken lambda sensor for? I have not even got the manifold yet!

All I asked is if i was to get a mk2 manifold with 2 lambda sensor holes in if i plugged both lambda sensors in will i get engine management light on.

Well I did say you need to explain yourself better didn't I.

Your car is a mk2 isn't it? If everythings connected up properly then why the hell would the engine management light come on?

That's just a stupid question really.

19th September 2011, 21:10

to shut you all up.

i fitted a raceland 4-1 manifold yesterday, made for the mk2 saxo.

has two lambda holes, plug the green one in the front hole, and blue one into the second hole.

my engine management light is not on.