Ebay oil cooler/ relocation kit.

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 wigan Posts: 778
    #1
    Well I've decided to go boost and I've started sourcing parts. Has anybody had experience with these as I think the local ones are 200+ I know il need a stat as well.
  2. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty
    #2
    I don't run a stat tbh. I'd buy a quality one mate, I bought one off eBay and it leaked a lot. Your oil is like your blood, you lose that your engine and turbo dies. I skimped out on it and luckily caught the massive leak before I drove. Ripped it out and installed a mocal kit. Much better.
  3. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #3
    You dont need a stat.

    Use genuine mocal. Doesn't have to be braided. Kit is about £130 all in.
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  4. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #4
    Buy one with a stat.
  5. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dave_P View Post
    Buy one with a stat.
    +1

    (If you drive like a girl).

    -1

    (If you don't).

  6. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 wigan Posts: 778
    #6
    I don't drive like a girl. Cool. Il get the mOcal one then. Won't I need a remote filter if I'm running a turbo or would a r5 one do? Cheers for the replies.
  7. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RossDagley View Post
    +1

    (If you drive like a girl).

    -1

    (If you don't).
    No, its just the smart thing to do as it regulates the oil temp...

    Do you run your water without a stat...? Didn't think so.
  8. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2008 ..... Posts: 5231 ..............
    #8
    as above run with a stat
    you dont want to be overcooling oil its very bad.
    ive got a genuine mocal kit with braided lines and sandwich plate and stat & brand new brackets and bolts
    £100 posted buddy
  9. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty
    #9
    Good deal that.

    Overcooling oil? Never heard of that. My oil temp sits at 0 until my normal water temp gauge is just by half, then oil temp starts to climb. Basically I warm the car up for a few mins before I drive, especially on a morning. And by the time I'm off my drive and end of street my oil temps warming up.

    Really don't see the need for a stat....
  10. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevo1600 View Post
    Good deal that.

    Overcooling oil? Never heard of that.
    Its when you oil doesn't get up to temp, self explanatory really...
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  11. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty
    #11
    How can your oil not get up to temp when your engines running? Coolers are good but they don't stop oil from warming up.
  12. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 wigan Posts: 778
    #12
    Will I need a remote filter tho with a turbo?
  13. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #13
    I monitor my oil temp electronically and it's generally in the 90-110 range depending on abuse levels. Even on a motorway stint at 60mph, and with my mocal in direct unrestricted airflow I don't recall it dropping below 85.

    The only important thing imo is to keep the oil temp above the water temp, but try to maintain it within about 10 degrees of it.

    Regarding oils, it's also very important (again, in my opinion) to run as narrow as possible a range of oil - it's often tempting to run a 5w50 oil, but with this large range, the polymer content is very high and you actually dont get the best out of your oil.

    You know I'm only teasing you Dave
  14. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wolf_gsxr View Post
    Will I need a remote filter tho with a turbo?
    depends on your manifold/turbo.
  15. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty
    #15
    You don't have to but I'd recommend it mate. Filters can melt behind hot turbo/mani the R5 filter is a small one though I believe so you could get away with it.
  16. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevo1600 View Post
    How can your oil not get up to temp when your engines running? Coolers are good but they don't stop oil from warming up.
    Because the cooler cools the oil too much because it doesn't have a stat fitted.

    Do you run a stat in your water? If you don't your water temp doesn't climb up to optimum operating temp... same thing really.

    I shouldn't need to explain this you should i?

    Iirc the oil cooler stat opens at 90 deg.
  17. Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320
    #17
    the problem with running an oil stat and a relocated filter is untill the oil is up to temp its not being filtered
  18. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tweeqd View Post
    the problem with running an oil stat and a relocated filter is untill the oil is up to temp its not being filtered
    you could get one of those inline stats, rather than the takeoff plate ones. That'd at least solve that concern.

    Tbh, I don't plan on changing mine to have a stat. I guess in the winter it might be different - I didn't actually consider the winter as I don't drive my car then. That's something to consider
  19. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty
    #19
    Yes please my oil cooler doesn't over cool my oil, it's sits around 85 and climbs when I give it some abuse. Then cruising it will drop but not below 85. So I struggle to understand how it would be over cooling. When it's sitting at 85 degrees.