manifold ebay special

1. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

   #1 22nd October 2011, 13:47

   Looking for a manifold to fit mk2 but don't want to spend stupid amount. PUG1OFF had a raceland one in for mk2 at £171 but missed out on that. Here's one on ebay :
   
   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CITROEN-SA...item5d3056ee89
   
   Is it any good any one had one? I am heat wrapping it so does not really matter too much on the looks. Would it do the job?
2. Psycho18 Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 west Mids Posts: 1775 Mk1 White VTS

   #2 22nd October 2011, 16:52

   Getting a branded one will ensure the bore/welds are smoother so has better flowing gases. Also the ebay specials will probably have a dodgy fit somewhere.
   
   I personally wouldn't get an exhaust system from ebay.
   
   Second hand raceland mani's etc come up often for the vtr.
3. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #3 22nd October 2011, 18:34

   How about buying a raceland one from us. We have one in stock.
4. Psycho18 Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 west Mids Posts: 1775 Mk1 White VTS

   #4 22nd October 2011, 18:37

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KamRacing How about buying a raceland one from us. We have one in stock.

   There you go mate!
5. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

   #5 22nd October 2011, 19:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KamRacing How about buying a raceland one from us. We have one in stock.

   what at £220? Pug1off was selling exactly same thing at 171. Going to ring monday see if there getting anymore in.
6. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #6 22nd October 2011, 19:27

   When times were good everyone discounted them massively. I know Pug1off dont have any - they ring me for them. You can try elsewhere but as Raceland are not manufacturing them for the rest of the year at least you may find it difficult to buy new.
   £220 is not a lot of money for a manifold. Considering the difference in quality of the 4-1 they are worth that price. I'm just not going to sell at £4-5 profit margin anymore.
   The problem is discounting 30-40% devalues the brand until people expect the price to be dirt cheap as you have shown. You'd laugh in shock if we sold them at full retail.
7. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

   #7 22nd October 2011, 19:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KamRacing When times were good everyone discounted them massively. I know Pug1off dont have any - they ring me for them. You can try elsewhere but as Raceland are not manufacturing them for the rest of the year at least you may find it difficult to buy new. £220 is not a lot of money for a manifold. Considering the difference in quality of the 4-1 they are worth that price. I'm just not going to sell at £4-5 profit margin anymore. The problem is discounting 30-40% devalues the brand until people expect the price to be dirt cheap as you have shown. You'd laugh in shock if we sold them at full retail.

   I am not moaning about your prices mate, but if someone is doing something £50 cheaper obviously its worth getting from them. But for you to sell at £220 when someone is knocking them out much cheaper your making a good tank on them. No one sells for cost price so you must buy them in cheaper than £171 what pug1off was selling them at.
8. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

   #8 22nd October 2011, 19:57

   ah you have edited your post while i was typing a reply.
9. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #9 23rd October 2011, 10:56

   you would be surprised at how low some companies will push the prices down. Certain lines we price match and make £4 on a £120 item. Raceland is similar. I could not run a business selling Raceland manifolds thats for sure. Realistically a good retail margin is 14% after wages, building costs etc are taken into account. If you can get one new cheap then good for you, but I need to make money to survive.
10. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #10 23rd October 2011, 11:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing you would be surprised at how low some companies will push the prices down. Certain lines we price match and make £4 on a £120 item. Raceland is similar. I could not run a business selling Raceland manifolds thats for sure. Realistically a good retail margin is 14% after wages, building costs etc are taken into account. If you can get one new cheap then good for you, but I need to make money to survive.

    
    As I said before you edited you're post while I was typing a reply. That's ok.
11. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #11 23rd October 2011, 11:20

    its not really your problem anyway. I dont have to sell them
12. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #12 23rd October 2011, 20:38

    I bought a supersprint one myself tbh
13. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #13 7th November 2011, 00:52

    Have you rang pug1off?
14. Low-n-Saxslow L-plater Joined: Nov 2011 Dorset Posts: 67 Saxo VTR & Suzuki Swift Sport

    #14 9th November 2011, 14:11

    I bought this exact manifold on ebay but it was a bidding auction from the same company and i won it for £90.
    They boast a power increase of up to 15bhp, but i had mine tested on a rolling road before and after the install and bhp increased by 8 with a standard air box fitted.
    
    (I provided my own de-cat)
    
    Definatly worth a crack as a quick and easy mod.
15. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

    #15 11th November 2011, 01:14

    Have a look at how much longer the down pipes for each cylinder are on proper manifolds compared to the one you posted mate.
    
    Each of the four pipes on my piper 4-1 come all the way down to the exhaust centre pipe, much better flow.
16. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #16 11th November 2011, 16:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SteveWC Have a look at how much longer the down pipes for each cylinder are on proper manifolds compared to the one you posted mate. Each of the four pipes on my piper 4-1 come all the way down to the exhaust centre pipe, much better flow.

    Got the manifold on now, Fitted great, Sounds good. Air flow is fine on it Welds are good on it all in all very good manifold.