standard cats

1. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

   #1 6th December 2011, 18:02

   just been told by my friend/previous owner that on his mrk 2 vtr he smashed the cat out of the standard manifold.
   
   is this bad? and i don't know if i should believe him...hes a bit dodgey like that.
2. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #2 6th December 2011, 18:14

   cant see anything particularly wrong with it if you dont plan on passing emissions? i wouldnt be doing it to my car though. cant you just get a proper decat?
3. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

   #3 6th December 2011, 18:21

   bit expensive my my liking...and it passed emmisions other week mate
4. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

   #4 6th December 2011, 18:22

   can i ask why manifolds for a mark 2 are so expensive? seeing though its the cat that is worth money?
5. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

   #5 6th December 2011, 18:34

   your paying for the craftmanship of the manifold more than anything, plus there made from good quality steel (usually) and will outlive the car itself lol.
   
   keep your eyes out for a raceland manifold mate second hand they are really cheap, i picked one up that was fucking mint for £80.
   
   smashing up your cat is just a daft idea, weigh it in to the scrappy and get £20 for it, use that towards a new manifold !!

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6. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

   #6 6th December 2011, 18:38

   ah right...i didnt smash the cat lol...i dont even know if it is...havent checked it....just don't know what to believe because i have no what difference it makes.
   
   i was under the impression raceland was expensive :/
   
   
   thanks very much though!
7. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

   #7 6th December 2011, 18:50

   is it worth moving the oil filter and that so i can use mark 1 decat? thats a lot cheaper isnt it?
8. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

   #8 6th December 2011, 18:52

   definately thats what i have done with mine.
   
   4-2-1 manifolds are much easier to source too.
   
   they also offer more low down revs where as 4-1 manifolds free up the revs at the top end of the scale, this is what i am led to believe, and after seeing the improved revs low down on mine, i can only guess its true.

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9. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #9 6th December 2011, 19:39

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dan_dan_the_saxo_man bit expensive my my liking...and it passed emmisions other week mate

   with the cat bashed out you wont be able to use it come mot time
   
   have a look into seeing if a mk1 exhaust system will fit your car and replace the manifold with a mk1 manifold
10. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #10 7th December 2011, 00:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dan_dan_the_saxo_man can i ask why manifolds for a mark 2 are so expensive? seeing though its the cat that is worth money?

    i think your getting confused, mk2 manifolds aren't more expensive than the mk1 manifolds in fact 99% of the time there isn't any difference just move the oil filter, the only reason its cheap to de-cat a mk1 is becasue its just a cheap de-cat pipe you need (or just buy a mk2 exhaust), but to de-cat the mk2 you need a whole manifold so yes its more expensive to de-cat a mk2 but its obviously its the same price to fit a mainfold to either a mk1 and mk2
    
    

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    Originally Posted by dan_dan_the_saxo_man is it worth moving the oil filter and that so i can use mark 1 decat? thats a lot cheaper isnt it?

    if you've got a mk2 with a 4 branch mani, then you wouldnt need a mk1 de-cat because the exhaust will meet the mani...
    
    unless you mean to fit a standard mk1 exhaust system and manifold, which is a lot of faffing around for f**k all difference
11. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

    #11 7th December 2011, 17:22

    i see what u mean guys...thanks for the help