Important! : Poll: where to go next....

1. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #1 7th December 2011, 23:57

   Just a quick one relating to my progress thread
   Where should I go next?
   Tried to add a poll but not sure if it's worked
   Anyway:
   A - save for MOT/possible issues - February 2012
   B - engine mounts - january 2012
   C - piper exhaust system - January 2012
   D - carbon fibre engine bay parts
   E - showcage and black door cards and black harnesses
2. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

   #2 8th December 2011, 00:01

   Id put some money to one side for the mot and then decide on future mods.

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3. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #3 8th December 2011, 00:03

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by J222JRA Id put some money to one side for the mot and then decide on future mods.

   Thanks for the fast response!
   I'm not sure though because I'm pretty sure I'll need a new rear beam :/ which ain't cheap and that will push future mods further back and I'm an impatient S.O.B
4. Damask Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2011 Rutland Posts: 487 Saxo desire 1.1 2002, no mods.

   #4 8th December 2011, 00:06

   dont be stupid with it, or you'll end up with a modified car you cant drive... and thats worse than having an unmodified car that you can
   Just stick to cheap things for now

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5. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #5 8th December 2011, 00:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Damask dont be stupid with it, or you'll end up with a modified car you cant drive... and thats worse than having an unmodified car that you can Just stick to cheap things for now

   I'm thinking save big for MOT, anything left over is a bonus for mods?
   Might go the whole hog with a full service and MOT
6. Rhysupply Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 gloucester Posts: 211 Xsi 106 fiat bravo 1.8 ph2 saxo vts

   #6 8th December 2011, 00:10

   It's good to have do many ideas but if it doesn't go through the mot your stumped
7. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #7 8th December 2011, 00:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Rhysupply It's good to have do many ideas but if it doesn't go through the mot your stumped

   The reason listed those others is because there is a gap between mods and MOT, or am I risking it and being under prepared for a possibly problematic MOT?
8. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #8 8th December 2011, 00:13

   Id iradicate the last pole option alltogether lol, thought it was a joke.
   
   Save for MOT and any problems replace with better aftermarket parts
9. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #9 8th December 2011, 00:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mochachino Id iradicate the last pole option alltogether lol, thought it was a joke. Save for MOT and any problems replace with better aftermarket parts

   Haha I'm still unsure about first and last part of E, definitely need some black door cards though!
   
   Yeah that sounds about right, or should I pre-MOT, and change before failure?
10. Rhysupply Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 gloucester Posts: 211 Xsi 106 fiat bravo 1.8 ph2 saxo vts

    #10 8th December 2011, 00:22

    what about getting it pre-tested to see if there is any major problems with it ?
11. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #11 8th December 2011, 00:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rhysupply what about getting it pre-tested to see if there is any major problems with it ?

    See above comment
12. Rhysupply Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 gloucester Posts: 211 Xsi 106 fiat bravo 1.8 ph2 saxo vts

    #12 8th December 2011, 00:29

    doooh
13. TwiggyMK Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Buckinghamshire Posts: 143 Hopefully soon to be Vtr

    #13 8th December 2011, 00:47

    60% MOT 40% carbon fibre bits there's nothing sexier than some carbon fibre
14. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #14 8th December 2011, 07:45

    Exhaust system first
    Then save for MOT
    
    Visual mods are a waste of time, they cost money and you barely get anything back when you sell them.
    
    Show cages are Ghey...
15. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #15 8th December 2011, 10:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TwiggyMK 60% MOT 40% carbon fibre bits there's nothing sexier than some carbon fibre

    i'd rather make them myself though :/ so they could be done afterwards
16. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #16 8th December 2011, 10:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate Exhaust system first Then save for MOT Visual mods are a waste of time, they cost money and you barely get anything back when you sell them. Show cages are Ghey...

    piper system will decat it, so no point fitting it for a month surely :/
    
    i understand what you're saying about visual mods, i just want to tidy up aspects, like black doorcards for the interior, and carbon fibre engine bay parts
    
    and yeah, it seems a losing battle to go with the showcage and harnesses on a road non track car
17. logic_guy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2010 England Posts: 3423

    #17 8th December 2011, 12:41

    Mot surely is number one?
18. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #18 8th December 2011, 12:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by logic_guy Mot surely is number one?

    I have the money to mod and MOT but am I taking it by modding before MOT?
19. logic_guy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2010 England Posts: 3423

    #19 8th December 2011, 12:56

    Well is say engine mounts. When you say black door cards do you mean the pov spec 1.1 ones?
    
    Show cage is a waste of money imo. Carbon for the engine bay? I want some of your money lol.
20. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #20 8th December 2011, 13:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by logic_guy Well is say engine mounts. When you say black door cards do you mean the pov spec 1.1 ones? Show cage is a waste of money imo. Carbon for the engine bay? I want some of your money lol.

    1st person with engine mounts i think! - whose to choose though?
    no, hate the bung in the window winder! needs to be either leather wrapped VTR/Furio/VTS ones
    
    Show cage isnt popular, its not gonna happen
    Yes of course carbon engine bay parts gonna have a bash at forming them myself first anyway
21. EwynSaxo Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Penpedairheol/Cascade/Bargoed Posts: 2104 Furio R.I.P, onyx Gti, astra turbo

    #21 9th December 2011, 11:52

    I have a showcage personally their a tidy mod for the money

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22. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #22 9th December 2011, 18:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EwynSaxo I have a showcage personally their a tidy mod for the money

    I thought that, but think there are more pressing issues!
23. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #23 13th December 2011, 07:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EwynSaxo I have a showcage personally their a tidy mod for the money

    I have heard (could be wrong) that because they are so light, they could easily break in a crash and make things worse?
24. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #24 13th December 2011, 09:33

    this is a no brainer
    s aready posted --get it pre-moted by test station you intend to use --, that should make sure when you go for testing there are no unexpected failure items
    see how BAD YOUR PROBLEMS ARE BEFORE spending anything on bling or performance --maybe it is time look hard at the costs to have a road worthy car first or maybe its to change to a better starting platform before modifying
    at least this way you will know all the present and next years possible problems before you spend anything
25. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #25 13th December 2011, 10:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman this is a no brainer s aready posted --get it pre-moted by test station you intend to use --, that should make sure when you go for testing there are no unexpected failure items see how BAD YOUR PROBLEMS ARE BEFORE spending anything on bling or performance --maybe it is time look hard at the costs to have a road worthy car first or maybe its to change to a better starting platform before modifying at least this way you will know all the present and next years possible problems before you spend anything

    Decision made!
26. Mattock L-plater Joined: May 2011 Peterborough/ Warminster Posts: 41 Saxo vtrrrr '99

    #26 14th December 2011, 20:41

    carbon fibre engine bay parts ftw

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27. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #27 14th December 2011, 20:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mattock carbon fibre engine bay parts ftw

    MOT takes priority....then maybe this
28. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #28 14th December 2011, 21:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mattock carbon fibre engine bay parts ftw

    Meh waste of money, spent money it on power mods as they will get you some money back when you come to sell

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29. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #29 14th December 2011, 21:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate Meh waste of money, spent money it on power mods as they will get you some money back when you come to sell

    aesthetics later
30. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #30 7th February 2012, 12:40

    MOT came first, and passed so I chose well
31. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #31 7th February 2012, 13:53

    exhaust system next...

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32. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

    #32 7th February 2012, 13:58

    Simple question really, get it through the MOT and blow whats left on whatever you want lol

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33. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #33 7th February 2012, 21:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kennym1987 exhaust system next...

    Definitely
    Going all out on a piper sustem!
34. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #34 7th February 2012, 21:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Baz Simple question really, get it through the MOT and blow whats left on whatever you want lol

    MOT was expensive but successful!
    
    Spends time
35. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

    #35 7th February 2012, 21:13

    Piper - good choice! I've always had Piper's love them
    
    Just a shame they dont do a stealth rear box for the 172 or I'd have one again.

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36. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #36 7th February 2012, 21:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxotim Piper - good choice! I've always had Piper's love them Just a shame they dont do a stealth rear box for the 172 or I'd have one again.

    high build quality
    high price - can be dealt with
    
    sound?
37. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

    #37 7th February 2012, 21:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dolby20 high build quality high price - can be dealt with sound?

    nah its not that expensive, im looking at 400 quid minimum for a system for the clio!
    
    lovely and deep, pops and bangs if you want them on overrun, big flames with decat. I was getting foot long flames out the back of my S with a mani too, sounded awesome!
    
    
38. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

    #38 7th February 2012, 21:36

    nice one, what needed doing for the MOT?
39. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #39 7th February 2012, 22:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxotim nah its not that expensive, im looking at 400 quid minimum for a system for the clio! lovely and deep, pops and bangs if you want them on overrun, big flames with decat. I was getting foot long flames out the back of my S with a mani too, sounded awesome! Saxo Piper exhaust - YouTube

    what size is that?
    
    looks to fit in the recess nicely!
    want outwardly rolled but cant decide if 3.5 is too big, 3 is too small????
40. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #40 7th February 2012, 22:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Baz nice one, what needed doing for the MOT?

    axle sadly :/
    but thats tighter than an old japanese man squinting now!
    
    other than that, blowy exhaust, new parts fitted
    headlight beam - adjusted - can actually see in the dark
    leaky caliper - swapped
    loose wheel arch trim - sorted
    
    so an expensive pass, but a pass none the less!
41. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

    #41 7th February 2012, 22:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dolby20 what size is that? looks to fit in the recess nicely! want outwardly rolled but cant decide if 3.5 is too big, 3 is too small????

    I've got 2.5" on mine.
    
    
    
    
42. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

    #42 7th February 2012, 23:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dolby20 what size is that? looks to fit in the recess nicely! want outwardly rolled but cant decide if 3.5 is too big, 3 is too small????

    thats just a vid i found on ewetoob.
    
    had a 3.5" inward rolled on my vts, sitting a bit high here
    
    
    
    and 3" outward rolled on my R
    
    
    
    preferred the look of the outward rolled tbh
43. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #43 7th February 2012, 23:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Baz I've got 2.5" on mine. new piper exhaust! - YouTube

    2.5 should be small, but that looks big :/ piper only mkae 3/3.5 so no chance of that!
44. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #44 7th February 2012, 23:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxotim thats just a vid i found on ewetoob. had a 3.5" inward rolled on my vts, sitting a bit high here and 3" outward rolled on my R preferred the look of the outward rolled tbh

    ugh!
    if the inward was an outward, man that would help!
    it looks tight, but could be because of the sitting high issue
    the 3" just looks that little bit lost :/
    or is it just right and the 3.5" just too big!?
    
    argh!!!
45. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #45 7th February 2012, 23:05

    Thanks to Baz and Saxotim for posting those pics too btw!
46. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

    #46 7th February 2012, 23:05

    maybe it was 3" then lmao, i'll have another look at my thread and see what I said haha
    
    edit: yeah its 3" lmao, what a tool, was first thing I said above the pic hehe
47. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

    #47 7th February 2012, 23:08

    TBH I had measurements of the OD of both tailpipes somewhere and they came to pretty much the same figure. upto you if you prefer the look of inward or outward, both sit very nicely in the recess. IMO 3.5 outward would be too big.
48. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

    #48 7th February 2012, 23:09

    yours looks 3" baz, piper dont do a 2.5 i think
49. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

    #49 7th February 2012, 23:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxotim yours looks 3" baz, piper dont do a 2.5 i think

    yeah it is 3", not a clue why I thought it 2.5 haha, idiot me you know. Don't listen to anything I say, just look at the pics I post lol
50. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #50 8th February 2012, 00:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Baz maybe it was 3" then lmao, i'll have another look at my thread and see what I said haha edit: yeah its 3" lmao, what a tool, was first thing I said above the pic hehe

    No worries
51. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #51 8th February 2012, 00:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxotim TBH I had measurements of the OD of both tailpipes somewhere and they came to pretty much the same figure. upto you if you prefer the look of inward or outward, both sit very nicely in the recess. IMO 3.5 outward would be too big.

    Gotta be outward!
    But yeah, is 3.5 too big...?
52. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #52 8th February 2012, 00:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxotim yours looks 3" baz, piper dont do a 2.5 i think

    Think 2.5 is supersprint/Kam racing?
53. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #53 8th February 2012, 00:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Baz yeah it is 3", not a clue why I thought it 2.5 haha, idiot me you know. Don't listen to anything I say, just look at the pics I post lol

    Pictures speak a thousand words....or 3" rather than 2.5"