Standard air box with panel Filter for vts ?

1. Oo_ben_oO Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2007 i live closer than you think Posts: 140 i Own a Saxo vts 130bhp

   #1 13th December 2011, 21:00

   Hey guys i was wondering if id get better preformance and better fuel comp from using a standard air box with a k and n panel filter ?
   
   i have got a raceland with a green filter on it at the moment but seems to drink fuel and seem sluggish sometimes :/ it is running rich as well and backfiring. went to pull off once at traffic lights and it had no power and popped :/
   
   Would standard be a better way to go for my Vts ?
2. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #2 13th December 2011, 21:03

   Standard is better.
   
   what is fuel 'comp'?
   
   Standard box and panal filter wont cure it running rich.
3. Oo_ben_oO Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2007 i live closer than you think Posts: 140 i Own a Saxo vts 130bhp

   #3 13th December 2011, 21:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mochachino Standard is better. what is fuel 'comp'? Standard box and panal filter wont cure it running rich.

   fuel consumption lol :/ so standard the way forward then ? ive heard alot of people talking about using standard but wasn't sure if that was bull as they say what i got was better for the car but im not so sure now lol.
4. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #4 13th December 2011, 21:17

   Standard is the way forward yup yup
5. Oo_ben_oO Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2007 i live closer than you think Posts: 140 i Own a Saxo vts 130bhp

   #5 13th December 2011, 21:24

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mochachino Standard is the way forward yup yup

   Righto bud cheers
6. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #6 14th December 2011, 07:42

   I went from a bmc (shit anyway imo) to a standard with a k&n and just a cold air feed from the side of the rad
   
   Worked welp still have it kicking about should really sell it lol
7. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #7 14th December 2011, 10:57

   I'm thinking going back to standard airbox on mine actually. Noticed intake temps were higher than I was expecting. Car is fine high end but I think it's killed my low rpm and around town. Need to have a play really....
8. CrouchyM Frequent Poster Joined: May 2011 Colchester Posts: 513 NHB Facelift EP3

   #8 14th December 2011, 11:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mochachino Standard is better. what is fuel 'comp'? Standard box and panal filter wont cure it running rich.

   It could do actually, if his current air filter is slightly blocked or isn't sucking in enough air.
9. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #9 14th December 2011, 11:41

   Has he tried cleaning it?
   
   Unreal the number of people who don't clean their induction kits/air filters.
10. OMGASAXO Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Derby Posts: 1021 Posi saxo, flatty, Peugeot bipper, Vauxhall vectra

    #10 14th December 2011, 21:35

    what problems can a ddirty air filter cause? mine gets dirty so easily with oil commin through the breather pipe for what ever reason :s
11. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #11 14th December 2011, 21:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OMGASAXO what problems can a ddirty air filter cause? mine gets dirty so easily with oil commin through the breather pipe for what ever reason :s

    Dirty or oily air filters will prevent the clean air getting into the inlet efficently...
12. OMGASAXO Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Derby Posts: 1021 Posi saxo, flatty, Peugeot bipper, Vauxhall vectra

    #12 14th December 2011, 21:46

    meaning loss of power or any permanant damage to the engine? i have to give the box and filter a good wipe if not completely change the filter very often
13. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #13 14th December 2011, 21:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OMGASAXO meaning loss of power or any permanant damage to the engine? i have to give the box and filter a good wipe if not completely change the filter very often

    Possibly loss of power depending on how bad a condition the filter is in, especially if it's being choaked with oil.
    
    The filter does exactly that, filter the air coming in to prevent any shit getting into the engine.
    
    A small amount of oil through the breather into the filter is normal but lots or often indicates a bigger issue....
    
    You could get an oil catch tank instead...
14. Oo_ben_oO Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2007 i live closer than you think Posts: 140 i Own a Saxo vts 130bhp

    #14 15th December 2011, 13:34

    thinking about it i haven't cleaned mine for ages still looks clean tho :/ trouble is when i look at the raceland kit it looks as if its against the slam panel and only a little bit air gets sucked in from the front grill where the original air feed goes :/
    
    But honestly thinking of going back to original but with panel filter. wont sounds as nice with the raceland kit but ah well :/