1.1 to vtr conversion

1. james1992 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 horley Posts: 191 saxo 1.1 forte icelandic all the way baby

   #1 23rd December 2011, 19:11

   sorry to all if there is a thread already but i cant seem to find anything
   
   so thinking bout doing a vtr engine change on ma flatarch and was wondering is it a straight swap or is there differet things i need for example if i was to get and engine, loom and ecu would it all go straight in or would it need to be as people say spliced ????
   
   all help would be awsome as would like to get on it straight away
   ps anyone got a vtr engine for sale
2. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #2 23rd December 2011, 19:16

   if you get an engine of the same year theres no need for any splicing, also need to make sure the ecu is unlocked

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3. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #3 23rd December 2011, 19:18

   1 engine mount will need welding in mate.

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4. james1992 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 horley Posts: 191 saxo 1.1 forte icelandic all the way baby

   #4 23rd December 2011, 19:21

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mandyslover70 if you get an engine of the same year theres no need for any splicing, also need to make sure the ecu is unlocked

   unlocked ??? and how do i do/make sure it is ???
5. james1992 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 horley Posts: 191 saxo 1.1 forte icelandic all the way baby

   #5 23rd December 2011, 19:26

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stevo67 1 engine mount will need welding in mate.

   oh right ys this ???
6. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #6 23rd December 2011, 20:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by james1992 oh right ys this ???

   because the vt one is stronger
7. james1992 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 horley Posts: 191 saxo 1.1 forte icelandic all the way baby

   #7 23rd December 2011, 23:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mandyslover70 because the vt one is stronger

   and the unlocked ecu how do i find out if it is and if it not how do i go about doing this
8. joeturnerrfx Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Lancs Posts: 130

   #8 23rd December 2011, 23:36

   There is some one on here who unlOcks ecu , alternatively have a look on eBay and there's services on their who can unlock , why not go for a vts engine over the vtr ?

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9. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #9 23rd December 2011, 23:38

   I can unlock any ecu pm me if need be.
10. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #10 24th December 2011, 11:39

    and i've usually got good used r engines in, mostly with all conversion parts that you'll need
11. james1992 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 horley Posts: 191 saxo 1.1 forte icelandic all the way baby

    #11 24th December 2011, 16:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joeturnerrfx There is some one on here who unlOcks ecu , alternatively have a look on eBay and there's services on their who can unlock , why not go for a vts engine over the vtr ?

    would there be more involved with a vts ?????
12. james1992 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 horley Posts: 191 saxo 1.1 forte icelandic all the way baby

    #12 24th December 2011, 16:02

    [QUOTE=mandyslover70;5720814]and i've usually got good used r engines in, mostly with all conversion parts that you'll need[/QUOTE
    
    ok cool
13. finboi92 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Dover, Kent Posts: 202

    #13 24th December 2011, 16:19

    I've done this swap before
    Didn't have to swap ecu or engine mount
    
    I put a 3plug vtr in a 3 plug 1.1
    No splicing, just as easy as unplugging the engine in there now then plugging it back in again!
    
    I ran the 1.1 ecu for about a month then got a vtr ecu
    
    
    If you need help pm me mate
14. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #14 24th December 2011, 17:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by finboi92 I've done this swap before Didn't have to swap ecu or engine mount I put a 3plug vtr in a 3 plug 1.1 No splicing, just as easy as unplugging the engine in there now then plugging it back in again! I ran the 1.1 ecu for about a month then got a vtr ecu If you need help pm me mate

    +1 to this. mine was along the same lines only 16v
15. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #15 24th December 2011, 19:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by james1992 would there be more involved with a vts ?????

    not a great deal more, just plumbing in fuel return and changing throttle cable, radiator and hoses
16. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #16 24th December 2011, 20:18

    I didnt even changed the rad at first on my vts and it was fine, have changed it since though as i got it real cheap.
17. finboi92 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Dover, Kent Posts: 202

    #17 24th December 2011, 20:39

    If your putting a 3 plug gti into a 3 plug 1.1
    
    Is it plug and play and with the right ecu?
    
    Wish I did that now! Haha
18. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #18 24th December 2011, 20:53

    3 pin to 3 pin plug and play baby!
19. james1992 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 horley Posts: 191 saxo 1.1 forte icelandic all the way baby

    #19 26th December 2011, 14:06

    ty all for your help guys so as long as i get a 3plug one then its no mods really at all
20. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #20 26th December 2011, 14:30

    so long as yours is 3 plug, then yes

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21. james1992 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 horley Posts: 191 saxo 1.1 forte icelandic all the way baby

    #21 26th December 2011, 23:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mandyslover70 so long as yours is 3 plug, then yes

    ok sweet u got any good 3plug engines bud ?????
22. saxovtrjar Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2011 wiltshire Posts: 261 Saxo VTR phase 1 (sold), Saxo VTR phase 2

    #22 27th December 2011, 10:20

    im currently breaking a vtr so could supply all you need many thanks
23. saxovtrjar Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2011 wiltshire Posts: 261 Saxo VTR phase 1 (sold), Saxo VTR phase 2

    #23 27th December 2011, 12:20

    just noticed u are after a 3 plug mine a single plu ecu phase 2 engine