VTS - Locking the Crank/Flywheel

1. tonytiger Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 106 2002 Saxo VTR 1993 Corrado VR6

   #1 1st January 2012, 23:25

   I'm trying to check the timing on a VTS but I don't think I'm locking the flywheel correctly. I know this should be really easy - but clearly I'm being a useless idiot.
   
   I've found the small hole to shove a drill bit/allen key in (having looked at the pictures on this forum) - but it doesn't seem to slot fully in to anything. How far in should the allen key go when the flywheel is correctly locked?
   
   I seem to be able to jam/lock the flywheel at different points so I know I'm not doing it right. Should I be able to see anything through the inspection hole at the point when it should lock?
   
   Appreciate any hints/tips!
   
   Oh yeah - Happy New Year everyone too!
2. Chris-VTS- Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 22

   #2 1st January 2012, 23:47

   I'm no expert, but cam timing can be a really difficult procedure, I remember spending hours doing my first timing belt on an escort. I'd advise to get it checked properly although I doubt it will be out if there standard cams fitted.
3. NickB4 Newbie Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 28 206 GTI (2.0 16v 136hp) Saxo VTS 1.4

   #3 2nd January 2012, 10:00

   I tried to lock my flywheel with a drill 6 but that one was to large i guess, it did work with a drill 5.
   
   Because i still had the ignition plugs in the engine the compression pushed my flywheel away from the locking point.
   so i removed the coverplate on my gearbox to see where the locking gap is at the flywheel.
   Only needed to rotate it a little and got it locked.
4. user_56440 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Bingley, West Yorkshire Posts: 190 GTI-6, Icelandic VTS

   #4 4th January 2012, 19:33

   Are you turning the crank pulley at the same time..?
5. DanMilton L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 Bicester Posts: 58 Citroen Saxo VTR Phase Deux

   #5 5th January 2012, 23:32

   i highly doubt its a floating bottom pulley, so the crank pulley should have a timing mark/same as the cams/ but this is a hunch as i havent yet done a cambelt on a vts. but if it has marks, tip-ex is a mans best friend dont be scared to put about 4 marks on all the pulleys
6. chris_saxo_1986 L-plater Joined: Feb 2005 sheerness/kent Posts: 84 2001 Saxo VTS ... Supercharged Project

   #6 7th January 2012, 13:19

   the flywheel has a rectangle notch in it which you ned to insert an allen key through the hole in the block..(which you have found)... you needa 5mm allen key, insert the small end of the allen key into the hole.. put pressure on it and crank the engine by hand... look at the cam pulleys as you do and somewhere close to the timing holes lining up on the head the allen key should 'click' into the locking hole on back of flywheel... then if you cannot rotate the engine by hand you know you have it... MAKE SURE FOR DEFO YOU HAVE GOT IT RIGHT AS THE ALLEN KEY CAN SOMETIMES GET CAUGHT ON THE CLUTCH BOLTS AND GIVE A FALSE IMPRESSION OF THE FLYWHEEL BEING LOCKED!!
   
   hope that helped
7. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #7 7th January 2012, 13:42

   Have a picture
   
   
   
   
   If you feel the notch come by the hole indicated, youve gone too far.

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8. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

   #8 17th January 2012, 02:10

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Gabbastard Have a picture If you feel the notch come by the hole indicated, youve gone too far.

   just what ive been searching for
9. frenchlover23 Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 5

   #9 14th February 2012, 13:07

   same thank for the helpfull pic although dont c the need to take the inspection cover off
10. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #10 14th February 2012, 22:01

    you don't need to take any covers off at the flywheel end