Might of been scammed?

5th January 2012, 21:30

Hey guys, not sure on how to go about getting my money back from a seller? I will not name and shame yet but what would I do? I paid on the 6th of december for an item on next day delivery

Another member sent me a message saying he had been scammed by said member back in july

any help would be handy.

5th January 2012, 21:32

Messaged the seller?

How did you pay?
Just start a Paypal dispute if you paid for a product.

5th January 2012, 21:35

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Originally Posted by ed-bradley

Messaged the seller?

How did you pay?
Just start a Paypal dispute if you paid for a product.

I have messaged him several times but it can take upto 2-3 days for a simple text back! I paid via paypal as goods iirc... paid the fee's anyway

It has resulted in my car being off the road and paying the best part of 400 quid in taxi's to work even tho I bought the item on the condition it was sent next day delivery

5th January 2012, 22:30

When i had a dispute with someone and couldnt get my money back I printed off a list of messages id sent and emails plus information on the item i had bought and took it the the police got a phone call the same day offering my money back. But I handt had any contact back from the seller for about a month. If you have their phone number just phone them if not look around on here they usuallly leave a number on a forsale thread

6th January 2012, 00:02

i know who the person is as he still owes me a refund. the lad is full of crap excuses
i was also messaged by another person who spent 80 on something from this same guy and is still awaiting the item to arrive after 3 weeks.

6th January 2012, 00:04

Which member are we talking about?

6th January 2012, 09:52

No idea but cant understand how people can do that

6th January 2012, 09:54

Just put a claim in on PayPal and post him some dog shit in a box

6th January 2012, 14:32

It might be too late for him to claim isn't it something like within 30 days

He still owes me £25 I know it's not alot of money but it's still my hard earned money
The lads username is Bedford8256 he either doesn't reply to pms or comes out with excuses like " I'll refund you once I've sold some stuff on eBay" erm f*** off its my money and you have spent it!

6th January 2012, 14:35

I would open a dispute on paypal, & if this same guy has done this to a few people which by the looks of it he has, i would name & shame.. to warn other members!!

6th January 2012, 14:41

If I was you id buy the part you need and get your car back on the road so you dont need taxi's and will save abit of money and open a case in the resoloution centre, soon as paypal ask for his proof of postage and he cant provide it they will refund you. IIRC you have about 40 days to open it though so I'd do it asap.

6th January 2012, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxovch22

i know who the person is as he still owes me a refund. the lad is full of crap excuses
i was also messaged by another person who spent 80 on something from this same guy and is still awaiting the item to arrive after 3 weeks.

seems to be a few people he has scammed...

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Originally Posted by J222JRA

Which member are we talking about?

Seeing as he has done it before.. Bedford8256 I checked his itrader ect he seems ok but now I can see I am wrong, It is worrying that he has more parts for sale too

IF the part arrives I will remove the thread about him ect

6th January 2012, 19:53

Maybe he is genuine but he's just too much of a lazy bastard to send the parts and they're still sitting in his room

6th January 2012, 20:01

huh...always thought he seemed a genuine lad... if its the one im thinking off hes quite a well established member?

BUT that means fuck all really, proof is in the pudding, get a claim in ASAP mate, piss take tbh,

still needs ppl who have been scammed to leave neg feedback though, thats what its there for

6th January 2012, 20:02

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Originally Posted by Saxovch22

Maybe he is genuine but he's just too much of a lazy bastard to send the parts and they're still sitting in his room

Maybe/IS just coming the cunt! Safe to say 70% of my remap money is now gone just going to work

6th January 2012, 22:40

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

huh...always thought he seemed a genuine lad... if its the one im thinking off hes quite a well established member?

BUT that means fuck all really, proof is in the pudding, get a claim in ASAP mate, piss take tbh,

still needs ppl who have been scammed to leave neg feedback though, thats what its there for

The Bedford your thinking of is the guy that works in a bodyshop and is Wassy's mate they have similar usernames

7th January 2012, 01:26

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Originally Posted by Saxovch22

The Bedford your thinking of is the guy that works in a bodyshop and is Wassy's mate they have similar usernames

i thought as much...hence my careful wording

i think i recall seeing another with a diff username/avi kicking about which made me think

8th January 2012, 00:20

hes still not replying to my pm's even though he has been online since!

8th January 2012, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

huh...always thought he seemed a genuine lad... if its the one im thinking off hes quite a well established member?

BUT that means fuck all really, proof is in the pudding, get a claim in ASAP mate, piss take tbh,

still needs ppl who have been scammed to leave neg feedback though, thats what its there for

The lad you are meaning is the bedford with a black vt as his picture? Works at a citroen dealership

He sorted me out with genuine oil filter relocation kit. He's a very genuine guy tbh. People need to start using iTrader to help out cunts like me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxovch22

hes still not replying to my pm's even though he has been online since!

Something needs to be done tbh

8th January 2012, 20:05

find out where he lives and go round? lol

and shuggs you scammed me you pikey.

them wheels dont fit over the brakes, need spacers haha.

think i might just grind a few mil off the face of the calipers.

8th January 2012, 20:29

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Originally Posted by rick_VTR

find out where he lives and go round? lol

and shuggs you scammed me you pikey.

them wheels dont fit over the brakes, need spacers haha.

think i might just grind a few mil off the face of the calipers.

200 miles away

No way? I had them on my mk1 vtr and rolled it back and forth about 30 feet when I wanted the front in the back of the garage

surely the mk1 and mk2 struts are the same?

9th January 2012, 00:43

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Originally Posted by -shuggles-

Something needs to be done tbh

starting to piss me off now tbh

9th January 2012, 00:51

Bedford**** ( i forget numbers) lad from Leeds seems genuine as fuck, from replies im guesting its another Bedford, i do remember seeing another one too.

9th January 2012, 11:23

Yes the Bedford in question is from Blackpool I think .

9th January 2012, 18:18

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Originally Posted by mlawlan69

Bedford**** ( i forget numbers) lad from Leeds seems genuine as fuck, from replies im guesting its another Bedford, i do remember seeing another one too.

I have delt with the other bedford

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Originally Posted by boony

Yes the Bedford in question is from Blackpool I think .

yeah, I am passing blackpool on wednesday thursday so I may pay him a visit

9th January 2012, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by -shuggles-

200 miles away

No way? I had them on my mk1 vtr and rolled it back and forth about 30 feet when I wanted the front in the back of the garage

surely the mk1 and mk2 struts are the same?

i think 5mm spacers would sort it, but as im going on the track when i get my new car i dont wanna do that, so just guna grind the face of the calipers down till the wheels go on, lol.

wont notice once there painted black again anyway.

hubs must be different? or the caliper brackets? fuck knows but when the bolts are tight the front wheels dont spin aha.

9th January 2012, 19:07

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Originally Posted by rick_VTR

i think 5mm spacers would sort it, but as im going on the track when i get my new car i dont wanna do that, so just guna grind the face of the calipers down till the wheels go on, lol.

wont notice once there painted black again anyway.

hubs must be different? or the caliper brackets? fuck knows but when the bolts are tight the front wheels dont spin aha.

Shit dude, very sorry about that

could the hubs be machined down a bit?

9th January 2012, 19:20

its no bother mate.

nah i cba with that. grinding down the calipers should sort it.

guna get the rest of the tyres fitted and see what they are like on the rear wether they scrape the arches or not, if they do then i will need spacers all round so will probably just sell them. lol.

getting a bit bored of saxos now tbh :/

9th January 2012, 21:15

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Originally Posted by rick_VTR

its no bother mate.

nah i cba with that. grinding down the calipers should sort it.

guna get the rest of the tyres fitted and see what they are like on the rear wether they scrape the arches or not, if they do then i will need spacers all round so will probably just sell them. lol.

getting a bit bored of saxos now tbh :/

cool man, they sat out just about on the arch's on my car as if they where spaced. They would of scrubbed on the outside of mine

9th January 2012, 22:03

yeh i think spacing them would spit them out abit too far.

in a couple of weeks it should be sorted and i will whack some pics up for you to see

10th January 2012, 17:32

Bit of an update, Finaly got a reply from the 'seller'. It turns out I do not get a refund if I dont receive the head as it cost him 50 quid to send it.. even tho it has cost me roughly 540ish in taxi's to get too and from work when it should have only cost me around 100 at the most.

Thats the mapping on the turbo out the fucking window.

10th January 2012, 17:35

Thats bullshit. Is that what he's told you?

Just open a dispute if you can. Its been ages, if you havent recieved it then he's either not sent it or its got lost in transit..Which if he'd sorted the courier correctly, he would have insurance to claim costs back.

He's chatting balls.

10th January 2012, 17:40

Seller's responsibility to ensure the item is received by the Buyer - in the eyes of the law.

Keep on at it.

10th January 2012, 17:43

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Originally Posted by ed-bradley

Thats bullshit. Is that what he's told you?

Just open a dispute if you can. Its been ages, if you havent recieved it then he's either not sent it or its got lost in transit..Which if he'd sorted the courier correctly, he would have insurance to claim costs back.

He's chatting balls.

yep but yet to see prove postage ect, well I did say I am passing through blackpool next week and that he still owes money to other people and I never got a reply.. by the sounds of it, it's my fault he split an engine and I never received the parcel. Not only that he claims he used Paisley freight which is the same company I used to split my itb'd vtr and I am sure there was 15+ parcels sent without a problem

Maybe a mod could PM him and try sort something?

10th January 2012, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry123

Seller's responsibility to ensure the item is received by the Buyer - in the eyes of the law.

Keep on at it.

That's exactly what I thought, if everybody that has been scammed contacted him maybe he might see the error of his ways.

10th January 2012, 18:41

copied and pasted from my phone.. reply from bedford

Look mate I'm not refunding anybody until I at least get the head back, iv paid for 3 lots of courier now I split a complete working engine to sell the head for £50 iv nearly spent £50 in courier charges so until I get the head or it turns up at ur house and u send it me back I won't be refunding you

10th January 2012, 18:44

Ask for a proof of postage again.. If he has indeed sent it, there'll be some form of confirmation/tracking number for it. Untill he gives you a legit one, keep pushing on him.

10th January 2012, 18:49

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Originally Posted by ed-bradley

Ask for a proof of postage again.. If he has indeed sent it, there'll be some form of confirmation/tracking number for it. Untill he gives you a legit one, keep pushing on him.

I have asked him several times, fair enough if the head ever turns up or proof of postage I will take back my words ect.

10th January 2012, 23:18

I have posted this head 3 times it's cost me £48 in courier costs each time it's been returned it after 3 failed delivery attempts iv even offered to meet him half way'ish when I went to Newcastle. He told me he would contact the courier service I txt him to ask how he got on and his reply was I havnt got time to phone them...
Iv sold tons of stuff on here without any problems I sent an ecu and a head and iv had problems with both of them, the ecu issue hasn't been mentioned on here so iv brought it up myself.
The lad who bought the head has asked for a refund iv told him I am
Not refunding any money until the head is located or returned to me. I sold the head for £50 posted iv spent £48 on courier services, I split a perfectly running engine do this head as the seller was desperate for it. As for the airbox I'm 99% sure I sent a refund I havnt had chance to look through my PayPal payments as yet because I'm
On my phone things arnt as easy as having a pc in front of you.
As mentioned iv sold loads on here and many of other forums with no problems I'm
Also a paid member. In the time of me selling the head and now I changed my Phone number I was scamming any1 I wouldnt of txt the lad with the head with my new number

10th January 2012, 23:37

Your Itrader feedback says different.

its the sellers responsibility that the goods arrive. If it hasnt been delivered, thats your responsibility. Do you have a tracking code for it? You should do if its been couriered.
Normally if a courier cant deliver an item if the buyer isnt in, they'll leave a card so you can arrange for it to be redelivered. Has the buyer had one? If not, then it hasnt been sent at all.

10th January 2012, 23:43

If you've couriered it properly, Ie; given the correct value of it.. You'll have insurance cover for it if it gets lost or damaged. So if it hasnt been delivered ring up and sort it out.. You'll get insurance pay from it and can refund the buyer.

edit: your latest Itrader feedback is going against you also, the same way this has..

10th January 2012, 23:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed-bradley

Your Itrader feedback says different.

its the sellers responsibility that the goods arrive. If it hasnt been delivered, thats your responsibility. Do you have a tracking code for it? You should do if its been couriered.
Normally if a courier cant deliver an item if the buyer isnt in, they'll leave a card so you can arrange for it to be redelivered. Has the buyer had one? If not, then it hasnt been sent at all.

So your head in courier services are you I did send a tracking number to him but he hasn't mentioned this

10th January 2012, 23:56

My dad owns a Logistics company..So yes.
Do you have proof of the tracking/postage for everyone to see? Its easy to claim to have done something.

11th January 2012, 08:05

I don't understand why things like this have to be so difficult.

You send a parcel using a courier and get a tracking number which you forward onto the buyer as well.
Delivery can't be made for whatever reason so they leave a card saying they will attempt redelivery x amount of times (or that you can collect from the depot).

I wasn't in for my last delivery but the card said they will attempt delivery the next day and the one more and then return to the sender. I called and picked it up from the depot but the card clearly stated what was going on if I hadn't of done this.

Why doesn't the seller call the courier company with the tracking number and ask where the parcel is??

11th January 2012, 15:29

Ermm how can it be buyers responsibility to ensure goods arrive?

YOU arrange the courier
YOU pay the charges
YOU get the tracking number

but yet it's the other guys problem?

you truly are a moron

11th January 2012, 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0rang3peel

Ermm how can it be buyers responsibility to ensure goods arrive?

YOU arrange the courier
YOU pay the charges
YOU get the tracking number

but yet it's the other guys problem?

you truly are a moron

im a moron, get a grip you faggot! iv provided him with the tracking number several times!!!

11th January 2012, 17:32

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Originally Posted by bedford8256

im a moron, get a grip you faggot! iv provided him with the tracking number several times!!!

That's a lie, everytime I have asked for proof or postage I got the usual excused like 'it's at work' I have never received any tracking number either.

I could understand if the courier has been at my house but 7 people including myself stay at the delivery address and there has been somebody in everyday without fail.

Post up the tracking number just now?

11th January 2012, 21:00

Mate you haven't sent the refund I have got the pm's saved and i will screenshot my PayPal received list to prove it

11th January 2012, 21:03

Your booking number is: 20111217121237-A6157

11th January 2012, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedford8256

Your booking number is: 20111217121237-A6157

That just says first of january 1970? I want proof of my adress ect! That tells me nothing about the parcel, who it's came from or anything?

11th January 2012, 22:10

Stop being an arse and just give us our refunds

12th January 2012, 01:10

What a nightmare!

12th January 2012, 01:31

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Originally Posted by Prickle

What a nightmare!

Could be worse you could own a micra.. Oh wait haii john

but srs why dont just send them solid proff, maybe a print screen of a tracking number via email or a picture of your bank statement proving you paid to sent it off at least.

12th January 2012, 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam

Could be worse you could own a micra.. Oh wait haii john

What my car got to do with it? lol..

12th January 2012, 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prickle

What my car got to do with it? lol..

Nothing she is beautifal.. Srs.

12th January 2012, 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam

Nothing she is beautifal.. Srs.

I know she is.

12th January 2012, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam

Could be worse you could own a micra.. Oh wait haii john

but srs why dont just send them solid proff, maybe a print screen of a tracking number via email or a picture of your bank statement proving you paid to sent it off at least.

It seem's that proof of postage is a myth with this guy... o wait there was no postage involved. 540ish quid for taxi's to work but if he kept to the agreement it would of been 100ish

Complete joke if you ask me.

12th January 2012, 18:53

Yep dont worry it will catch up with him i am sure.

12th January 2012, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam

Yep dont worry it will catch up with him i am sure.

it's more the taxi's to and from work... that was my remap money for the turbo

passing by blackpool next week so might pop round. His adress was on paypal so I took a note of it a few weeks back.

12th January 2012, 19:07

this bedford is a full on bell end by the looks of things.

hope you sort it all out and get your money back mate

definately pay him a visit.

12th January 2012, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick_VTR

this bedford is a full on bell end by the looks of things.

hope you sort it all out and get your money back mate

definately pay him a visit.

I will agree there. Worst of it is, i gave him the excuse of the storm in scotland for the lack of delivery with roads closed ect

I just don't want to turn up if he's a complete idiot with a knife ect haha. Do you think the police could of done anything?

12th January 2012, 19:34

if you're concerned about the presence of a knife, turn up with a flame-thrower, is simples

12th January 2012, 19:36

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Originally Posted by mandyslover70

if you're concerned about the presence of a knife, turn up with a flame-thrower, is simples

hmm can of lynx and a lighter?

12th January 2012, 19:44

dont think the police could do anything tbh :/

just go round with a bigger knife

12th January 2012, 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick_VTR

dont think the police could do anything tbh :/

just go round with a bigger knife

fuck, I know it's only 60 quid but it's a days wages!

13th January 2012, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by -shuggles-

fuck, I know it's only 60 quid but it's a days wages!

doesnt matter if it was 5 quid its still your heard earned money that hes pocketed.

needing that 25quid off him to service my car

13th January 2012, 01:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by -shuggles-

fuck, I know it's only 60 quid but it's a days wages!

A days wages..?

13th January 2012, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prickle

A days wages..?

As in, he gets 60 quid a day... wages...

13th January 2012, 19:40

bringing a knife are u lot serious, iv provided him with a tracking number 3 times, ur in blackpool well pop round and have a chat, im no little skank who lives in some high rise flats i work hard for what iv got and rip nobody off. why would i provide my paypal details if i was going to rip people off with my home address registered on there, and registered on here. if i was scamming you i wouldnt of let u know my new number you idiot. i wish the head would turn up here or at ur end as this is making me out to be a bad person and im sure theres loads of people on here that will back me up.

when he was buying the head, i even arranged to meet half way'ish if he covered my fuel but it wouldnt of been cheap with the car i drive

im no scammer and the sooner the head turns up the better. im sorry if it looks like iv ripped u off but i assure i havnt the tracking number uploaded is the 1 i got off paisley frieght when i rang him up as iv deleted aload of my emails and couldnt find the 1 from them guys

13th January 2012, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedford8256

bringing a knife are u lot serious, iv provided him with a tracking number 3 times, ur in blackpool well pop round and have a chat, im no little skank who lives in some high rise flats i work hard for what iv got and rip nobody off. why would i provide my paypal details if i was going to rip people off with my home address registered on there, and registered on here. if i was scamming you i wouldnt of let u know my new number you idiot. i wish the head would turn up here or at ur end as this is making me out to be a bad person and im sure theres loads of people on here that will back me up.

when he was buying the head, i even arranged to meet half way'ish if he covered my fuel but it wouldnt of been cheap with the car i drive

im no scammer and the sooner the head turns up the better. im sorry if it looks like iv ripped u off but i assure i havnt the tracking number uploaded is the 1 i got off paisley frieght when i rang him up as iv deleted aload of my emails and couldnt find the 1 from them guys

Yer fuck you...

14th January 2012, 22:57

what about my airbox ?
when you going to refund me for that ?

15th January 2012, 09:28

what about my double ended dildo, why haven't you returned it

15th January 2012, 09:43

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Originally Posted by darrenmma

what about my double ended dildo, why haven't you returned it

Not the time nor the place mate. I apologize if he actually owes you a double ended dildo.

15th January 2012, 09:46

Have you not tried tracking it, with the tracking number he gave you?? or phone the courier? It may of got lost after collection?? which then wouldnt be his fault?

15th January 2012, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prickle

A days wages..?

yes....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_E30

As in, he gets 60 quid a day... wages...

Glad that is cleared up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedford8256

bringing a knife are u lot serious, iv provided him with a tracking number 3 times, ur in blackpool well pop round and have a chat, im no little skank who lives in some high rise flats i work hard for what iv got and rip nobody off. why would i provide my paypal details if i was going to rip people off with my home address registered on there, and registered on here. if i was scamming you i wouldnt of let u know my new number you idiot. i wish the head would turn up here or at ur end as this is making me out to be a bad person and im sure theres loads of people on here that will back me up.

when he was buying the head, i even arranged to meet half way'ish if he covered my fuel but it wouldnt of been cheap with the car i drive

im no scammer and the sooner the head turns up the better. im sorry if it looks like iv ripped u off but i assure i havnt the tracking number uploaded is the 1 i got off paisley frieght when i rang him up as iv deleted aload of my emails and couldnt find the 1 from them guys

Well the tracking number I was given on this thread never had an adress,it had the wrong date, no details about the parcel or anything.

All I am asking is for you to make a bit of an effort in asking the courier where the heads went? I only seem to get you saying you are at work ect

It has got to the stage were I have bought another head from a member on here on wednesday night and it arrived friday morning.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by ha_x3

Have you not tried tracking it, with the tracking number he gave you?? or phone the courier? It may of got lost after collection?? which then wouldnt be his fault?

16th January 2012, 11:00

Can you not just claim your money back mate

16th January 2012, 13:43

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Originally Posted by rorz_vts

Can you not just claim your money back mate

I have ran out of time I reckon, might just check actually.

16th January 2012, 14:37

you get 45 days to open a claim mate

18th January 2012, 12:19

give you tip on paypal purchases.......You will always win a claim if A) They cannot prove sending the item with tracking. B) IF they cannot prove it was delivered. If 1 of the above...you will get your money back + they will have to recoup loss from whoever they "posted" with.

18th January 2012, 12:19

Phone up paypal mate.

19th January 2012, 21:41

Any news of a refund Shuggles ?
He's ignoring me completely now

22nd January 2012, 14:14

absolute nothing dude

24th January 2012, 19:46

You guys need to claim, this guys a chump.