VTS rocker cover

1. Wee_monkey1987 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Hertfordshire Posts: 250 2000 Saxo Woodland Green VTS, 2002 Mazda MX5

   #1 10th January 2012, 17:27

   I know there's been alot of speculation about whether the VTS has a rocker cover and many peeps have recommended using Silicone instant gaskets which works a treat.
   
   But i'm a little confused i was on ebay earlier today poking around for some genuine parts for my VTS when i stumbled across this:
   
   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-PE...item3368be6e3d
   
   An "apparently" genuine rocker cover gasket that fits all TU5JP4 engines? i know the advert says fits pretty much all other Citroen's but as there the same engine surely it'll fit a Saxo VTS???
2. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #2 10th January 2012, 18:22

   the cam covers are different on a jp4
   
   and they dont have rocker covers as there is no rocker to cover lol
   
   i think you mean cam cover gaskets?
3. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #3 10th January 2012, 18:41

   That cover is fo a JP4, it's the J4 covers which are a ballache to seal.
   
   Use loctite instant gasket sealent, worked a treat for me
   
   I think there are a few decent ones but most people apply it wrong and it ends up pissing out afterwards
4. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #4 10th January 2012, 21:46

   the motor discount shop near me recommend me this stuff cant remember the name, but it looked more like tiger seal but is made for replacing gaskets and it has a thumb control on it so its cleaner to apply and the air doesnt get to it and dry it out cost about 8 quid
   
   EDIT: here it is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WYNNS-BLAC...item20ba5cb2e6
5. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #5 10th January 2012, 21:50

   the major ballache with resealing j4 covers is the fact that they have "anti-squash" lugs on them to prevent the seal being over compressed when assembled, thats why sealant isn't always too successful, i find its better to grind the lugs flat prior to using any sealant
6. Wee_monkey1987 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Hertfordshire Posts: 250 2000 Saxo Woodland Green VTS, 2002 Mazda MX5

   #6 11th January 2012, 10:01

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jeffchiz they dont have rocker covers as there is no rocker to cover lol i think you mean cam cover gaskets?

   my bad i meant cam cover getting confused with the VTR and VTS engines
7. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #7 11th January 2012, 12:43

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mandyslover70 the major ballache with resealing j4 covers is the fact that they have "anti-squash" lugs on them to prevent the seal being over compressed when assembled, thats why sealant isn't always too successful, i find its better to grind the lugs flat prior to using any sealant

   Yeah I did the same on my old GTI. sanded down the covers so the metal was flush and then stuck a thick bead of loctite gasket sealent.....never leaked after that
8. xsi16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Ilkeston, Derbyshire Posts: 469 374 bhp Supercharged 205 GTI, Passat Estate

   #8 11th January 2012, 14:47

   Its not rocket science!!. To seal them properly without having to grind off the anti- squash lugs you need to replicate how its done from the factory.
   
   It would of been applied by a machine at the factory but with a bit off patients and a steady hand its easy!. Everyone seems to apply the gasket sealant and bolt them down straight away which is wrong.
   
   You need to apply a thin bead of sealant which is proud of the lugs in 1 continous run (just like standard)
   
   Let the sealant fully cure (24hrs or more) be for bolting them down
   
   Now you have a proper seal that will allow the covers to be fitted and removed easily. Makes it alot easier than sealing them down.
9. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #9 11th January 2012, 17:05

   thats ok if you've got 24 hours to wait lol
10. xsi16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Ilkeston, Derbyshire Posts: 469 374 bhp Supercharged 205 GTI, Passat Estate

    #10 11th January 2012, 18:11

    yeah that is the only downside