Yellow/creamy gunk (HG?)

16th January 2012, 14:41

I do hope not, but my car has had this ever since I first bought it.

It had completely BLOCKED the rocker cover outlet, and is all through the tubing. I had cleared it all out about 6-7 months ago and seems to have come back even more now.

another....

Very small amounts in the oil cap when I had taken it off to check. Checked the dipstick, and actually the oil level is about 1/3 whereas before was well over half way.

More than likely to be the HG?

16th January 2012, 14:47

looks like it to me mate looks to much to be just moisture out of the air

16th January 2012, 14:51

Get a sniff test done at the local garage mate that will tell you if your head gasket has gone. Looks to me as if you just do short drives not giving the car chance to warm up and the condensation is mixing with the oil.

16th January 2012, 14:51

Do you use the car on long journeys or has it only been used for quick trips out?

If you only use it for short journeys, the car doesn't have enough time to heat up and condensation can form causing the mayo. However a build up like that in 6 months would suggest HG Failure unfortunately.

16th January 2012, 14:54

I really do only do about 1 mile to work and 1 mile back, but I do try to do the odd 30-40 min drive whenever I can to keep the engine warm. I feel I may have done more damage than good then. I shall get her booked in for the sniff test then.

16th January 2012, 14:56

No one can say head gasket by just looking and seeing mayo. There are so many factors and without the proof of a sniff/ compression test cant give a answer without guessing

The fact you only do 2 miles a day in it wont help the condensation mate.

16th January 2012, 15:02

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Originally Posted by Bedford126

No one can say head gasket by just looking and seeing mayo. There are so many factors and without the proof of a sniff/ compression test cant give a answer without guessing

The fact you only do 2 miles a day in it wont help the condensation mate.

Yeah that's a fair enough point, but you guys definitely have more experience with this than me. I will have her checked, just maybe not yet........ lol MoT. woops.

16th January 2012, 15:33

i will put 100% thats a headgasket on its way out.

seen alot now. as bedford says try get a compression test if you can mate that will tell you.

17th January 2012, 01:15

Could be condensation, the 8vs suffer from it badly in the cold weather I find however whats your coolant situation like? If its using some frequently then it could be head gasket. Does it leak oil from the head/block face above the alternator too? If so might be worth doing the headgasket

17th January 2012, 01:21

But it's a 1.1 p reg, thats got to be about 500quid of car. a headgasket at a garage is like 350-400 is it worth him doing it ?

17th January 2012, 01:24

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Originally Posted by Stefan_Wood

But it's a 1.1 p reg, thats got to be about 500quid of car. a headgasket at a garage is like 350-400 is it worth him doing it ?

Probably not economically but if hes enthusiastic about the car, no harm in doing it himself or getting it done on here for way less than that

17th January 2012, 01:32

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Originally Posted by Gandi699

Probably not economically but if hes enthusiastic about the car, no harm in doing it himself or getting it done on here for way less than that

Suppose doing it your self would knock 2/3rds off the bill.

17th January 2012, 01:56

No -way is that condensation.

Thats 3-4mm thick of build up of mayo gunk on the breather filter outlet, what other 8vs have had that then and it not been the head gasket.

17th January 2012, 02:07

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Originally Posted by baker556

No -way is that condensation.

Thats 3-4mm thick of build up of mayo gunk on the breather filter outlet, what other 8vs have had that then and it not been the head gasket.

This... My furio was the same for a while i thought it was ok, then got worse so toke thermostate out to last longer. Then one day it cooked itself alive.

17th January 2012, 02:31

thats defo a fucked hg its cheaper to replace engine than do hg

17th January 2012, 07:52

HG is gone I would say, far to much shit to just be condensation.

Get a compression test done to be sure, if the car runs ok and you can't afford to get the HG done then just run the car into the ground until just before the MOT is due and then either scrap it or break.

17th January 2012, 09:02

skim and pressure test is give or take £50

new gasket set is what? £20-£40 ?

normal oil £20

antifreeze £10

total = £100 if you do it yourself. wont cost much more, probably even less.

can re use cambelt but its risky. obviously thats if you can take it off your self etc. fairly easy though once you get going.

id look for another car if your planning on paying 400 for a garage to do it mate. or 16v it

17th January 2012, 09:20

Is it using water too? Is the engine heating up quicker than normal? If so then it is defo hg

17th January 2012, 09:56

Cheers for the huge response guys! I think in general I will go through the MOT even though it's bound to fail, but that will give me a great idea on what needs to be fixed. After that, she will have to be taken off of the road and me and my friend will strip her and more than likely 16v her. Whilst doing other bits. Oh and regardless of MOT will have the sniff test done too.

17th January 2012, 10:02

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Originally Posted by devilsadvocate

HG is gone I would say, far to much shit to just be condensation.

Get a compression test done to be sure, if the car runs ok and you can't afford to get the HG done then just run the car into the ground until just before the MOT is due and then either scrap it or break.

Compression testing might not show anything as if the fire rings are still sealing the cylinders you'll have good compression, but just fluids mixing

17th January 2012, 10:04

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Originally Posted by sam_16v

thats defo a fucked hg its cheaper to replace engine than do hg

Its loads more work though, plus you have the potential to be putting in an engine with an old/duff head gasket once more

17th January 2012, 13:30

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Originally Posted by stevo1600

i will put 100% thats a headgasket on its way out.

seen alot now. as bedford says try get a compression test if you can mate that will tell you.

You could be wrong, My old car i used to do 0.75 miles to work and 0.75 miles home. After a few weeks it was gunked up. I took it for a long drive to Cadburys world and it cleared it all out. I think it was bad condensation.

17th January 2012, 17:09

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Originally Posted by stevo1600

skim and pressure test is give or take £50

new gasket set is what? £20-£40 ?

normal oil £20

antifreeze £10

total = £100 if you do it yourself. wont cost much more, probably even less.

can re use cambelt but its risky. obviously thats if you can take it off your self etc. fairly easy though once you get going.

id look for another car if your planning on paying 400 for a garage to do it mate. or 16v it

£100 is about right doing it yourself, but can be cheaper.

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Originally Posted by logic_guy

You could be wrong, My old car i used to do 0.75 miles to work and 0.75 miles home. After a few weeks it was gunked up. I took it for a long drive to Cadburys world and it cleared it all out. I think it was bad condensation.

Fair play dude it might of done, but it could not have been this bad where its literally so full of gunk its pouring out the breather pipes.

A garage will charge £300-£450 to do the head gasket.

I recommend doing it yourself its not too hard shouldn't take longer than a weekend.

Costing DIY:

Proper Job £130 (maybe less)
Skim £25
Cambelt £35
Head bolts £14
Gasket £22
Antifreeze £10
Oil £24

Cheaper job: £40
Gasket £22
Oil £18 (cheap asda)
Antifreeze £10

Although it its no recommend using the old bolts as they stretch, but if they don't look stretched or bent slightly, its your call. If your not keeping the car to long just do the cheap job its bound to last a fair while anyway.

I am no mechanic, but i didn't find it at all hard to do. Cambelt timing was maybe the hardest bit as i kept on checking it was perfect with the tension as its something i have never done before.

Good luck !