1.4 to vtr ???

1. Furio-styling1986 Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 26 citroen saxo furio

   #1 24th January 2012, 12:13

   easy now lads and gyals....i wanna change my engine from 1.4 to 1.6 vtr what would i need ie engine box ecu stuff like that and also could i run it on the furio loom? could i run a vtr engine with a 1.4 box would it make a difference?? my mate as got a vtr and i swear lads thats quick he had it remapped cheers
2. mcjacko1987 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Rochdale Posts: 1896 mk2 saxo 1.4 furio in possi blue

   #2 24th January 2012, 12:29

   easy now ali g.
   
   
   firt off all you need is the engine as long as you get an egine running off the same plus ecu as urs, loom should work, gear box is fine, you need the engine,throttle body etc. but its just plug and play as long as the ecu plugs match. however you will also need the ecu for the vtr. so if your furio is single plug, get single plug ecu.
   
   makes it rappid bro, proppa sick
3. Furio-styling1986 Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 26 citroen saxo furio

   #3 24th January 2012, 12:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mcjacko1987 easy now ali g. firt off all you need is the engine as long as you get an egine running off the same plus ecu as urs, loom should work, gear box is fine, you need the engine,throttle body etc. but its just plug and play as long as the ecu plugs match. however you will also need the ecu for the vtr. so if your furio is single plug, get single plug ecu. makes it rappid bro, proppa sick

   its a 3 plug ecu i think... lol
   
   drop a vtr lump in and ya know its gotta get remapped lol yeah thank you ahaha cheers fella
4. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #4 24th January 2012, 12:38

   whats the point in remapping and standard vtr engine?
5. Furio-styling1986 Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 26 citroen saxo furio

   #5 24th January 2012, 12:48

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Baz whats the point in remapping and standard vtr engine?

   why not ? a friend of mine as a vtr remapped and its quick...!!!
6. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #6 24th January 2012, 12:50

   How quick is "quick"?
   The money is better spent elsewhere unless you have a lot of engine modifications that will require a remap to get it running correctly
7. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #7 24th January 2012, 12:51

   why not? because there is no benefit, there nothing different from as it was to start with. If you had cams fitted etc then yeah remap but don't see any advantage in getting it done on a standard car
8. Furio-styling1986 Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 26 citroen saxo furio

   #8 24th January 2012, 12:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Gandi699 How quick is "quick"? The money is better spent elsewhere unless you have a lot of engine modifications that will require a remap to get it running correctly

   about as quick as my nan getting out of the bath lol
9. mcjacko1987 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Rochdale Posts: 1896 mk2 saxo 1.4 furio in possi blue

   #9 24th January 2012, 12:53

   do other mods before remap mate. inductiion, exhaust, get all the cheapest stuff done 1st. weight reduction too. then think about a remap, gains would be better than as itl go of the other mods, if you map then put other mods on result wouldnt be the same. but for the price of a map then get it cammed instead.
10. Furio-styling1986 Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 26 citroen saxo furio

    #10 24th January 2012, 12:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Baz why not? because there is no benefit, there nothing different from as it was to start with. If you had cams fitted etc then yeah remap but don't see any advantage in getting it done on a standard car

    all i know its got a 4.2.1 mani and straight pipe all the way through and remapped and pipercross with ram air feed and remapped
11. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #11 24th January 2012, 12:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Furio-styling1986 about as quick as my nan getting out of the bath lol

    Probably will be like that with running a VTR gearbox
12. Furio-styling1986 Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 26 citroen saxo furio

    #12 24th January 2012, 12:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mcjacko1987 do other mods before remap mate. inductiion, exhaust, get all the cheapest stuff done 1st. weight reduction too. then think about a remap, gains would be better than as itl go of the other mods, if you map then put other mods on result wouldnt be the same. but for the price of a map then get it cammed instead.

    
    
    cheers for that bro, i already have a full peco system and a induction kit, ready for the vtr lump, i like the idea of getting it cammed too hmmm lol
13. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

    #13 24th January 2012, 12:58

    so its been remapped twice? must be rapid lol, honestly....don't bother remapping unless youve had cams fitted at least, be waste of money and time!
14. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #14 24th January 2012, 12:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Furio-styling1986 cheers for that bro, i already have a full peco system and a induction kit, ready for the vtr lump, i like the idea of getting it cammed too hmmm lol

    Id recommend an xsi/rallye head with J cam. Its cheaper than fitting buying a fitting an equivalent spec (270 degree) cam plus you get a better flowing head with hard valve springs
15. Furio-styling1986 Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 26 citroen saxo furio

    #15 24th January 2012, 13:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Baz so its been remapped twice? must be rapid lol, honestly....don't bother remapping unless youve had cams fitted at least, be waste of money and time!

    ahaha i see the mistake lol
    
    cheers for the advice i think i wont bother with the remap til i have spent some money on the engine first
16. Furio-styling1986 Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 26 citroen saxo furio

    #16 24th January 2012, 13:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 Id recommend an xsi/rallye head with J cam. Its cheaper than fitting buying a fitting an equivalent spec (270 degree) cam plus you get a better flowing head with hard valve springs

    nice one fella i will look into that...