News : Engine conversion quotes

1. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

   #1 29th January 2012, 22:47

   im looking at upgrading for a 1.1 to a 1.6 8v vtr engine with 1.4 box! can people give me quotes on this please as i wanted to do it myself but i do not feel confident enough to do so!
   
   local would be great (canterbury) as head gasket has gone!
   
   cheers

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2. redevo7 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 197

   #2 29th January 2012, 23:50

   problem you will find is you only have 1 fuel line and need 2 so you will need to replace fuel tank and pipes inside the car.
   also have had to change the whole wiring loom not just engine bay.
3. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

   #3 30th January 2012, 01:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by redevo7 problem you will find is you only have 1 fuel line and need 2 so you will need to replace fuel tank and pipes inside the car. also have had to change the whole wiring loom not just engine bay.

   pretty sure his car already has a return line. same engine as i had and mine has one. dont think vtr engines use a return anyway
4. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #4 30th January 2012, 02:04

   No vtr dont have a feul return, only the vts...
5. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #5 30th January 2012, 16:35

   blacktop vtr has return as does 1.1 spi
6. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

   #6 30th January 2012, 18:21

   i have a 1.1 saxo eastcoast! its a spi i believe!! what engine would be best and a straight swap?
7. mcjacko1987 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Rochdale Posts: 1896 mk2 saxo 1.4 furio in possi blue

   #7 30th January 2012, 18:24

   best tip tbh is if you dont feel confident dont bother attempting. youl only get stressed when you do things wrong or come across a problem, which if not confident will be happening a lot
8. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

   #8 30th January 2012, 18:26

   i have now acquired some help, he said to get an engine thati want to put in and he'll help me do it! ( he owns a garage and works on french cars for a living!) what do you guys recommend! would a vtr lump be a straight swap if its from same year car?
9. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #9 30th January 2012, 18:27

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jayline i have a 1.1 saxo eastcoast! its a spi i believe!! what engine would be best and a straight swap?

   It's not just the engine mate, I would have thought you are going to need to upgrade the suspension and brakes to cope with the added power and weight. Could be wrong but the standard VTS brakes are not that great at stopping the 16v engine so I don't see how 1.1 brakes could do the same.
   
   It's been done plenty of times but a lot of ballache and could end up costing more if you are paying someone else to do it than just buying a VTR/VTS.
10. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #10 30th January 2012, 18:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate It's not just the engine mate, I would have thought you are going to need to upgrade the suspension and brakes to cope with the added power and weight. Could be wrong but the standard VTS brakes are not that great at stopping the 16v engine so I don't see how 1.1 brakes could do the same. It's been done plenty of times but a lot of ballache and could end up costing more if you are paying someone else to do it than just buying a VTR/VTS.

    i do agree, and i have already started buying the bits! i have a full vts suspension from a mark 1! so just waiting to see what engine to drop in as im going to spend a weekend building it! would i needs vts driveshafts and wishbones to put the struts on by the way!!!
11. tingaling Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 derby Posts: 992 Gold mk2 vtr

    #11 30th January 2012, 18:29

    May aswell use a vts if you're going to the trouble of changing the engine no?
12. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #12 30th January 2012, 18:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tingaling May aswell use a vts if you're going to the trouble of changing the engine no?

    ive done a lot of reading up on this and it looks like i would have to do alot of work to fit it, meaning fuel lines and new engine mounts? so i just wanted to fit a vtr engine on 1.4 boz with good breathing mods and exhaust!
13. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #13 30th January 2012, 18:34

    i forgot to mention, insurance would be a bitch! i will be paying 2200 a year for a 1.1 with a 1.6 engine! so thats why i wanted a 8v! its the cheapest around for me
14. andmay1993 Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 stockton-on-tees Posts: 127 1.1 is now a vtr

    #14 14th February 2012, 18:17

    get a vts or a vtr cheap and stick your 1.1 plates on it and wend your vin numbers and swap the cam cover with numbers on over not many bobys will have any idea
15. andmay1993 Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 stockton-on-tees Posts: 127 1.1 is now a vtr

    #15 14th February 2012, 18:17

    scrap your 1.1 in for spare money
16. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

    #16 14th February 2012, 18:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andmay1993 get a vts or a vtr cheap and stick your 1.1 plates on it and wend your vin numbers and swap the cam cover with numbers on over not many bobys will have any idea

    o yeah thats a fuckin beltin idea ain't it!! Some right tools on this forum at the minute
17. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #17 14th February 2012, 18:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andmay1993 get a vts or a vtr cheap and stick your 1.1 plates on it and wend your vin numbers and swap the cam cover with numbers on over not many bobys will have any idea

    What a retard you are
    
    Guessing 1993 means you are a kid who doesn't know any better...
18. 0rang3peel Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Swansea / Chippenham Posts: 10872 306 diesel shed broken vts

    #18 14th February 2012, 18:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andmay1993 get a vts or a vtr cheap and stick your 1.1 plates on it and wend your vin numbers and swap the cam cover with numbers on over not many bobys will have any idea

    hahahahahah
19. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

    #19 14th February 2012, 19:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andmay1993 get a vts or a vtr cheap and stick your 1.1 plates on it and wend your vin numbers and swap the cam cover with numbers on over not many bobys will have any idea

    That's such a good idea! You fucking mong, let's go break the law...
20. Spudgun_mk Newbie Joined: Oct 2010 Milton Keynes Posts: 24 52 plate saxo vts

    #20 14th February 2012, 19:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andmay1993 get a vts or a vtr cheap and stick your 1.1 plates on it and wend your vin numbers and swap the cam cover with numbers on over not many bobys will have any idea

    seriously mate what are you on i aint laughed this hard in ages
    
    on a serious note tho it will be cheaper just o buy a vts or a vtr nowadays
21. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #21 14th February 2012, 19:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spudgun_mk seriously mate what are you on i aint laughed this hard in ages on a serious note tho it will be cheaper just o buy a vts or a vtr nowadays

    well i have thought of it but i like to build myself a saxo and i prefer the flat arch style! so i will be sticking with the eastcoast good idea anyways
22. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #22 14th February 2012, 20:01

    There's no more hastle in fitting a 16v engine than an 8v matey. And the 1.4 box is a shit one why do you want that?
23. saxo_singh Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2009 Birmingham Posts: 4289 02 VTR'd Furio, 07 Audi A4 Avant S Line

    #23 14th February 2012, 20:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andmay1993 get a vts or a vtr cheap and stick your 1.1 plates on it and wend your vin numbers and swap the cam cover with numbers on over not many bobys will have any idea

    You are a complete fucking bellend!
    
    No one do this, if you get stop checked you will be fucked! And get your car tooken away and scrapped and possibly done for fraud, driving without correct insurance aswell.
24. skidzVTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 236 Saxo VTR Two Tone

    #24 14th February 2012, 20:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andmay1993 get a vts or a vtr cheap and stick your 1.1 plates on it and wend your vin numbers and swap the cam cover with numbers on over not many bobys will have any idea

    what a dick .
25. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #25 14th February 2012, 21:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom5190 There's no more hastle in fitting a 16v engine than an 8v matey. And the 1.4 box is a shit one why do you want that?

    fair play then, i thought it be quicker on acceleration? as im not to bothered in top speed!
26. tingaling Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 derby Posts: 992 Gold mk2 vtr

    #26 14th February 2012, 22:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jayline fair play then, i thought it be quicker on acceleration? as im not to bothered in top speed!

    Nope, get a rallye box
27. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #27 15th February 2012, 07:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jayline fair play then, i thought it be quicker on acceleration? as im not to bothered in top speed!

    save yourself some cash and just use your 1.1 box
28. Karlb1 Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Aylesbury Posts: 1868 Seat Leon Cupra tdi

    #28 15th February 2012, 14:44

    Use your 1.1 box as Kenny said, better acceleration than the 1.4 box (1.4 is almost the same as the vtr box, which people don't like to have on their car..including me who actually has a vtr box on my S conversion )
29. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #29 15th February 2012, 14:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Karlb1 Use your 1.1 box as Kenny said, better acceleration than the 1.4 box (1.4 is almost the same as the vtr box, which people don't like to have on their car..including me who actually has a vtr box on my S conversion )

    so 1.1 box will be a better choice! hmmm might have to get it rebuilt then LOL
30. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #30 28th June 2012, 14:00

    Seen this in Baz' sig so..
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andmay1993 get a vts or a vtr cheap and stick your 1.1 plates on it and wend your vin numbers and swap the cam cover with numbers on over not many bobys will have any idea

    HA HA HA from Stockton as well! no suprise there!
31. PhilloVTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Skelmersdale Posts: 112 Saxo VTR MK2

    #31 28th June 2012, 15:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andmay1993 get a vts or a vtr cheap and stick your 1.1 plates on it and wend your vin numbers and swap the cam cover with numbers on over not many bobys will have any idea

    Cheers for giving idea's to up our insurance premiums, quality bloke
32. jage Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 679

    #32 28th June 2012, 15:59

    on the note of the thread, vtrs do have returns, you dont need to rewire the whole car, my friends 1.1 was plug and play with his new vtr engine. as for being cheaper to buy one you could do the swap for £200 relatively easy..
33. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #33 28th June 2012, 16:05

    wow what an old thread! ive now gone for a 1.4 furio bootom end and going to change the head and so on so should be good for 100 bhp