--- Rowan's Saxo VTS Turbo ---

1. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

   #1 3rd February 2012, 09:32

   Been on saxperience a while now, just looking around.
   Thought I'd start up a thread.
   
   It all started with a '96 red VTR (one of the first of the line )
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   It ran 123.8 at the crank.
   
   But every good thing comes to an end...
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   My EX-girlfriend borrowed my car and gave it back to me in this state
   
   All said and done, I sold the wreck and got a 16V
   
   All the parts I could salvage from my old VTR went on the VTS.
   
   
   
   
   
   Threw in the ICE
   
   
   
   
2. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

   #2 3rd February 2012, 09:32

   Added Injen air intake, raceland manifold and custom stainless exhaust without cat and the Invidia muffler.
   
   
   
   
   
   Bit of cleaning here
   
   
   
   LED tail lights
   
   
   
   Got a feckin sweet deal on Brembo calipers with Carbone Lorraine pads.
   
   -Old EBC brakes-
   
   
   
   Old vs new discs
   
   
   
   new calipers
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   more cleaning
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Polyestered my rear panels so they would fit the 17cm Apline R-series speakers
   
   
   
   
   
   And then it was time for a bit of maintenance...
   
   New rad, timing belt, clutch and a good service. So figured it was easiest to pull out the engine
   
   Refurbed the mani while I was at it
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Mate helping out by cleaning the muck of the engine bay
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   And this is how she stands now
   
   
   
   
   
   
3. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

   #3 3rd February 2012, 09:38

   thats looking good man!
   good work!
   
   what size are those brakes ?
4. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

   #4 3rd February 2012, 09:44

   Done so far
   
   Engine:
   -Injen air filter
   -polished throttle
   -Raceland manifold
   -custom stainless exhaust
   -Invidia muffler
   
   Suspension:
   -Eibach pro damper kit
   -Powerflex bushings and lower engine mount
   -Team Dynamics pro race 1.2 16"
   -Falken ziex ze-912 (205-35 front and 215-35 rear)
   
   Brakes:
   -Brembo caliper from a pug 406 with CB pads and 283 discs from a Xantia 3.0 V6
   
   ICE:
   -Alpine HU
   -2x Alpine R-series comp sets (front+rear)
   -2x JBL 15" woofers
   -JBL GTO amp for the comp sets
   -AV 1800W amp for the subs
5. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

   #5 3rd February 2012, 10:03

   looks great bar the back bumper!
6. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

   #6 3rd February 2012, 10:07

   And my other toy
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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7. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

   #7 3rd February 2012, 10:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Tontsy thats looking good man! good work! what size are those brakes ?

   Thanks!
   These are 283's of a Xantia 3.0 V6
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jayyoung looks great bar the back bumper!

   Thanks!
   Bar the back bumper?
8. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

   #8 3rd February 2012, 10:10

   Nice my friend!
   there are a few riders on here
9. m11ler Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 Kent Posts: 4908 Posi VTR, Eunos Roadster

   #9 3rd February 2012, 10:22

   Very nice! And the bike is a beaut aswell!
10. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

    #10 3rd February 2012, 10:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RowanVtr Thanks! Bar the back bumper?

    Nice bike! Bikes FTW!
    
    Yeah I don't like the none standard rear bumper thats all!
11. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #11 3rd February 2012, 10:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tontsy Nice my friend! there are a few riders on here

    Nice! Do they have any threads on their bikes?
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by m11ler Very nice! And the bike is a beaut aswell!

    Thanks mate!
12. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #12 3rd February 2012, 10:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jayyoung Nice bike! Bikes FTW! Yeah I don't like the none standard rear bumper thats all!

    Thanks! The rush of riding that beast is unparalleled imo.
    
    I get it now I didn't like it at first but it came with the car and kinda grew on me
13. Psycho18 Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 west Mids Posts: 1775 Mk1 White VTS

    #13 3rd February 2012, 11:05

    na, rear bumper looks really nice. Job well done.
14. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #14 3rd February 2012, 11:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RowanVtr Nice! Do they have any threads on their bikes?

    they dont seem to pick up well, as there are a few "real" bikes, and a handfull of pisspoor mopeds.
    Jay lives in the Isle of Man - TT Nut
    Ed-Brad - is top notch when it comes to Road Racing and has an impressive collection with his old man
    me - im just a fucking loony who likes 110mph wheelies
    
    my latest toy is a 2010 (13S) Yammy R6
    
15. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #15 3rd February 2012, 11:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tontsy they dont seem to pick up well, as there are a few "real" bikes, and a handfull of pisspoor mopeds. Jay lives in the Isle of Man - TT Nut Ed-Brad - is top notch when it comes to Road Racing and has an impressive collection with his old man me - im just a fucking loony who likes 110mph wheelies my latest toy is a 2010 (13S) Yammy R6

    He lives in the Isle of Man!? lucky bastard!
    
    I'm with you on the stupid as feck but fun as hell riding
    
    We're with about 6 hardcore riders and this year is declared as our track year, we'll go to as many tracks as we can.
    
    Very nice R6!
16. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #16 11th October 2012, 08:55

    Small update.
    
    Head skimmed & cleaned, valves checked & regrinded, stemseals replaced.
    
    Sourced a mild steel tubular manifold
    wiseco forged low compression pistons
    2.5" piping for the downpipe
    stainless turbo flanges
    revised T2 turbo off a Renault 5 gt turbo with a t25 hot side
    oil feed adaptor
17. Waney L-plater Joined: Oct 2012 leyland Posts: 58

    #17 11th October 2012, 09:07

    Very nice, good write up too
    
    
    Dave

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18. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

    #18 11th October 2012, 10:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RowanVtr He lives in the Isle of Man!? lucky bastard! I'm with you on the stupid as feck but fun as hell riding We're with about 6 hardcore riders and this year is declared as our track year, we'll go to as many tracks as we can. Very nice R6!

    
    
    Seen the TT for my whole life! Need to get yourself over at least once!
    
    Build is coming on really well!
19. Xplodee Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Rochester, Kent Posts: 493 Saxo VTR

    #19 11th October 2012, 11:27

    Saxo looks great mate. Bet them brakes have some serious stopping power.
20. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #20 11th October 2012, 11:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_ Seen the TT for my whole life! Need to get yourself over at least once! Build is coming on really well!

    I'm jealous.. Will do that! But I think it would be with the sax or by plane. Don't think I'll survive a 1000 KM one way ride on my crotchrocket

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21. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #21 11th October 2012, 11:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Xplodee Saxo looks great mate. Bet them brakes have some serious stopping power.

    
    Thanks mate!They most certainly do, especially with CL pads. They have a rather ferocious bite
22. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #22 10th December 2012, 20:33

    Update:
    
    Mocal oil cooler
    
    
    
    
    JP4 camcovers
    
    
    
    
    Megane 225 injectors (390cc)
    
    
    
    
    Uprated gear links
    
    
    
    
    Intercooler, oil catchcan, slim fan and 200CP sportcat
    
    
    
    
    Vems 3.6 standalone with wideband lambda and on board MAP sensor
    
    
    
    
    Re-looming the bugger
    
    
    
    
    
    
    And redesigned the woofer case to hold the 79Ah battery
    
    
    
    (will post more fotos when it is upholstered)
23. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #23 2nd January 2013, 08:43

    Wee update
    
    received the boost control solenoid
    
    
    
    
    And I found out that the mild steel manifold was very poorly C02 welded and thus leaking worse than dodgy fossett.
    So I decided I could do a better job and started off with 42mm (2mm thick) stainless.
    
    (there is also some 2.5" bends,straights and v-band clamps on this picture for the exhaust)
    
    Initial welded up collector
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    So it is all tacked up, now just looking for the time to finish it.
24. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #24 2nd January 2013, 09:14

    Excellent work there fella. Really good!
    Did you get the design from somewhere, or do it in CAD first or... freestyle it or what? Looks great!

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25. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #25 2nd January 2013, 09:22

    Thanks! I collected as many pictures of especially dp mani's and free-styled it from there.
    
    As I found out along the way, they are exactly equal length as each runner uses 4 90' bends.
    (although one is more cut up than the other)
26. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #26 2nd January 2013, 09:28

    Nice work there mate!

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27. user_53808 L-plater Joined: Jul 2011 Risca, S.Wales Posts: 70 VTS & VTR

    #27 5th January 2013, 15:27

    Great build.
28. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #28 23rd January 2013, 12:18

    MSD ignition thanks to trackdayparts.nl
    
    
    
    Picking up a second engine to this saturday, so the real build can begin!
29. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #29 23rd January 2013, 12:24

    42mm primary's? Really?
30. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #30 23rd January 2013, 12:32

    Effective inner diameter would be 38mm.
    Too large? Have considered this affecting the spool up time of my tiny turbo..
31. gazza808 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 591

    #31 23rd January 2013, 12:38

    Looks good! Where'd you source your stainless elbows?
32. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #32 23rd January 2013, 12:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RowanVtr Effective inner diameter would be 38mm. Too large? Have considered this affecting the spool up time of my tiny turbo..

    Is it pipe or tube your using? It looks like tube to me?
    
    It depends who you ask.. If it's a tiny turbo then you probably won't notice that much but still, if It was me I'd use 1.25" ID pipe.
    
    Regardless, it looks like you have been doing a good job so far keep it up
33. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #33 23rd January 2013, 12:56

    Cheers mate!
    
    I use tube, sourced via a hobbyist who fabricates stainless exhausts. (here in Holland)
    http://www.freewebs.com/jbranbergen/uitlaten.htm
    
    I'm going to run a T2 with T25 turbine housing, so I think lag won't be that bad. 1.5" was easier to source so I went with that.
    
    Maybe in the future I'll re-design the whole thing (possibly with external wastegate) and really put a study in to it.
    
    But in this case I'll ask you for your thoughts if you don't mind, I'm always open to good advice.
34. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #34 28th January 2013, 07:43

    
    
    Got a crappy 16v lump for the rebuild. And while I was at it, got me a hoist and an engine mount(? don't know what its called in English)
35. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #35 1st February 2013, 09:03

    An evening in the mancave:
    
    Testfitted the manifold and turbo, like a glove
    
    
    
    
    
    (For the observants among us, yes there are only 3 runners on the manifold. I've decided to go with an external wastegate)
    
    Head off
    
    
    
    Them silly valves...
    
    
    
    Dafuq
    
    
    
    The cause
    
    
    
    While the block is soaking up the detergent
    
    
36. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #36 1st February 2013, 09:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RowanVtr (For the observants among us, yes there are only 3 runners on the manifold. I've decided to go with an external wastegate)

    How are you routing that? Not just on one primary (I hope!)?
37. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #37 1st February 2013, 09:29

    I'm going to run a tube directly from the collector, that's why I took the runner out. So I can figure out how the hell I'm going to fit the basterd
38. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #38 1st February 2013, 09:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RowanVtr I'm going to run a tube directly from the collector, that's why I took the runner out. So I can figure out how the hell I'm going to fit the basterd

    ah perfect. Just to throw a spanner in the works, you know you should really not go against the flow (like the DP manifolds do) ... right? Let's test your welding/routing skills - see if you can route one somehow from the collector, in the gasflow direction hehe

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39. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #39 1st February 2013, 09:49

    I have been pondering that, and also been trying to figure out what the minimum angle is that would be required to not interrupt the gasflow. Or at least not as much..
    
    A good challenge nonetheless.
    
    But before I begin to fabricate anything for the wastegate, I would have get one first.
    Need to know the measurements so I can keep that in account.
40. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #40 1st February 2013, 09:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RowanVtr I have been pondering that, and also been trying to figure out what the minimum angle is that would be required to not interrupt the gasflow. Or at least not as much.. A good challenge nonetheless. But before I begin to fabricate anything for the wastegate, I would have get one first. Need to know the measurements so I can keep that in account.

    do you know which wastegate you'll be using yet? I run a turbosmart 38mm, but really like the watercooled tial ones! I think the measurements of the turbosmart one are available online - sure I've seen a schematic of it somewhere before...
41. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #41 1st February 2013, 10:38

    I'm leaning towards the Tial F38 or MV-S V38. Not sure how the watercooling will affect anything, it's not going to be a full-on road race/ trackcar.
    Maybe it will elongate the lifespan?
    
    (On the other hand, having a watercooled wastegate makes one totally awesome)
42. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #42 1st February 2013, 10:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RowanVtr I'm leaning towards the Tial F38 or MV-S V38. Not sure how the watercooling will affect anything, it's not going to be a full-on road race/ trackcar. Maybe it will elongate the lifespan? (On the other hand, having a watercooled wastegate makes one totally awesome)

    This exactly. Much more hassle to plumb in, but serious "scene points"
    
    I only know a few guys running watercooled (and both of them are 800+bhp, one is 1000+bhp). Don't think it's needed myself (but does look pretty...).

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43. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #43 1st March 2013, 17:03

    Small update, the flu got to me so wasn't really able to get real work done.
    
    
    All the nuts & bolts are being replaced by stainless ones.
    
    
    
    
    New stainless 2.5" mufflers and flex part
    
    
    
    
    New valves, valve seats, seals, skimmed and vacuumtested
    
    
    
    
    Freshly honed block
    
    
    
    
    Since the block and head were ultrasonicly cleaned they could use a fresh coat of paint
    
    
    
    
    
    
    So now waiting for Citroen to supply the rest of the parts to rebuild the engine.

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44. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #44 1st March 2013, 17:41

    looks great Rowan! Keep the photos coming - even if a small insignificant update it's great to see progress
45. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #45 7th March 2013, 08:56

    Received new bearings
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Prepped some brackets and other small stuff for sandblasting.
46. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #46 15th March 2013, 10:57

    I've sanblasted some bits yesterday in the workshop at our service department.
    
    The mechanics there were curious as always to see a pencil pusher getting his hands dirty
    
    
    
    Nice and clean
    
    I will upload a pic tonight with a few bits testfitted with the stainless bolt & nuts. Should look pretty
    
    
    Btw: I'm thinking of painting the head, as it's been ultrasonincally cleaned so it has some stains and wear. (my builder advised against sandblasting the due to it may leaving some residu)
    
    Any thoughts on this?
47. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #47 15th March 2013, 13:06

    Get the head soda blasted. Had mine done ages ago and it's ideal as leaves no residue and is totally safe.

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48. blenky-vtr Newbie Joined: May 2008 boston Posts: 29 wicked red saxo vtr ,silver vtr and now a icelandi

    #48 15th March 2013, 13:39

    I want them brakes they look the shit behind dynamics
49. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #49 15th March 2013, 13:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blenky-vtr I want them brakes they look the shit behind dynamics

    There are a few in the for sale section
    
    If you need access to either the for sale or wanted areas of our forums, you need to wait a minimum of 30 days and accumulate 100+ posts, or sign up the princely sum if £10 to get "premium membership" (available in the website shop).
    
    (As once said by a wise mod)
50. user_46658 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2010 Little Mill, South Wales Posts: 7547 Mondeo ST TDCI Saxo VTS

    #50 15th March 2013, 13:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RowanVtr There are a few in the for sale section If you need access to either the for sale or wanted areas of our forums, you need to wait a minimum of 30 days and accumulate 100+ posts, or sign up the princely sum if £10 to get "premium membership" (available in the website shop). (As once upon a time wise mod said)

    *annoying
    
    Hai Ross xoxoxoxoxo

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51. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #51 17th March 2013, 16:39

    Dry build 1 (Still waiting on a load of parts from Citroen)
    
    
    
    
    
    
52. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #52 12th April 2013, 08:10

    sneak peak
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    More this afternoon
53. josh89vtr L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 ebbw vale Posts: 72 citroen saxo silver completely standard

    #53 12th April 2013, 08:42

    Looking awesome bud

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54. k2thecsaxo Established Member Joined: Jan 2007 Ringwood Posts: 2468 Amazon Green Mk2 VTR Wicked Red Furio

    #54 12th April 2013, 17:23

    Great progress mate!! Looks a quality build too!
55. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #55 14th April 2013, 21:42

    Got a bit done, still missing some vital parts from Citroen.
    And for the first time in a while the weather was great so my Fireblade was calling me to come out and play
    
    
    
    
    
    

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56. 306T16 Newbie Joined: Feb 2013

    #56 14th April 2013, 23:52

    Looking good Rowan!!
    
    we moeten s meeten als we beide rijdend zijn
57. AleexDurrant Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Bournemouth Posts: 5 The silver flatty

    #57 15th April 2013, 00:11

    Can't wait to see this finished!
58. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #58 15th April 2013, 00:35

    Lots of effort going into this mate
59. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #59 15th April 2013, 08:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 306T16 Looking good Rowan!! we moeten s meeten als we beide rijdend zijn

    Cheers mate!
    
    Strak plan, ben al een tijdje geabonneerd op jouw thread. Aardig gekke 306
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AleexDurrant Can't wait to see this finished!

    Me neither
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 Lots of effort going into this mate

    Thanks
60. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

    #60 15th April 2013, 10:42

    Engine looks amazing, keep up the good work.

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61. 306T16 Newbie Joined: Feb 2013

    #61 15th April 2013, 23:37

    Thx... looks amazing Rowan
    
    En gaan we regelen!!!!!!!
62. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

    #62 11th June 2013, 18:19

    Evening rowan, how's the build coming along haven't been updating us much, and have you figured out how to weld in the collector on your manifold ?
    
    Regards
63. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #63 11th June 2013, 19:49

    Evening Rob, it's coming along slow but steady.
    Just bought a house which will be built this fall.
    So I had to shift my priorities a bit
    
    Ordered the last week, when they arrive I'll post up some pics.
    
    No worries, I will finish this project!
64. KieranHopkins Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 Hemel Hempstead Posts: 226 MK1 Saxo VTR Amazon Green Mk2 Saxo VTS Black

    #64 11th June 2013, 21:51

    That's some serious engine work, good to see it being done properly, can't wait to see it in the car
65. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #65 28th June 2013, 13:13

    So after dealing with all the stuff that comes with buying a house that's not build yet, I finally found some time
    
    Some stuff arrived
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Genuine HKS SSQV 4, order at an offical HKS dealer
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Clutchkit from the friendly and helpful Clutch-Specialists
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    And the Tial MV-S wastegate from DP-Engineering
    
    
    
    
    
    Finally everything has arrived (except some small bits like vacuum hoses and such) so I can get on with finishing my manifold and swapping the blocks
66. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

    #66 28th June 2013, 13:36

    Some nice parts you have got yourself, will be looking forward to some pics of it all fitted.
    
    How much did you spend on the clutch ? (If you don't mind me asking) cheapest paddle clutch I have found is an omp one which is £300 meh !
67. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #67 28th June 2013, 14:04

    Hey rowan. I see you have a sprung clutch plate. Torque will be limited on that clutch. Did you have an end power figure (torque) in mind?

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68. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #68 28th June 2013, 14:29

    The clutch kit was about £250 and is guaranteed up to 40% increase in torque.
    
    I am fully aware that a lug driven could take way more and would be a better option with the future in mind.
    But for now this will do, as this build is a constant equation of quality/durability and budget with no numerical target in mind (BHP/Torque)
    
    Your reaction is much appreciated though, always good to get some feedback

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69. 306T16 Newbie Joined: Feb 2013

    #69 28th June 2013, 23:09

    Nice Rowan,
    
    im off to DP the 22nd of july for mapping of the black beast

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70. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #70 28th June 2013, 23:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rowan The clutch kit was about £250 and is guaranteed up to 40% increase in torque. I am fully aware that a lug driven could take way more and would be a better option with the future in mind. But for now this will do, as this build is a constant equation of quality/durability and budget with no numerical target in mind (BHP/Torque) Your reaction is much appreciated though, always good to get some feedback

    Hey buddy
    
    Yeah we see slip in real use (not just dyno lol) when running above about 250ft/lb on a sprung clutch with pressed cover - BUT the price is much nicer than the lug drive options (and nicer for your clutch pushing leg muscles!).
    
    Parts are looking really good man - I'm excited for you!

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71. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #71 25th July 2013, 22:36

    More parts
    
    Gold baby!
    
    
    
    Stainless for various brackets and such
    
    
    
    
    But more of notice, I've finally started with the actual build!
    
    
    Baked myself an oilpan
    
    
    
    
    Ready to get cracking
    
    
    
    Fitted fan and string-fitted intercooler
    
    
    
    Interior gone and loom ready for sorting out
    
    
    
    Out with the old
    
    
    
    Enginebay ready for cleaning and painting
    
    
    
    The garage at the moment
    
    
72. Terrorvts Newbie Joined: May 2013 Midlands Posts: 1 Phase2 Vts. Loud

    #72 25th July 2013, 23:29

    That's sick
73. Dan_Cupra Newbie Joined: Jul 2013 Rugby Seat Ibiza Mk3 Cupra

    #73 26th July 2013, 00:18

    Awesome be watching this
74. BenMagan Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Craigavon Posts: 129 (Current) 2001 White MK2 VTR 1999 silver westcoast

    #74 27th July 2013, 14:06

    ^^^^^ Me too for sure
75. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

    #75 27th July 2013, 14:14

    Looking good sure i'll be watching you're progress! by the way are the TD 1.2's 15's or 16's?
76. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #76 29th July 2013, 20:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte Looking good sure i'll be watching you're progress! by the way are the TD 1.2's 15's or 16's?

    Cheers mate! The TD 1.2's are 16's
    
    And a wee update:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Even the misses pitching in
    
    
77. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #77 31st July 2013, 12:05

    In with the new
    
    
    
    
    
    
78. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

    #78 31st July 2013, 21:28

    Oh that looks nice, good progress matey
79. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #79 31st July 2013, 22:01

    Very tidy!
80. wullvfr Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 killin,perthshire Posts: 1561 Audi a3 1.8sport,kawasaki zx9r c2,Yamaha R1 track

    #80 1st August 2013, 17:16

    Looking good fella,just had a wee look through the thread....liking the bike
81. W343NNA Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 770

    #81 2nd August 2013, 10:24

    Fantastic work!, Your car looks imaccculate!, Fellow 16" pro racer!

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82. user_21226 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 wirral Posts: 6348 Icelandic vtr turbo

    #82 2nd August 2013, 17:25

    Nice read that mate it's good to see Saxp has still got some good build threads
83. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #83 3rd August 2013, 19:50

    Thanks for he positive replies! Helps me to keep motivated, as this is quite a testing build...
    
    New track rods and link rods
    
    
    
    Fucked bushes, so replaced them with powerflex
    
    
    
    Refurbished the strut
    
    
    
    Started welding
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Figured out the wastegate runner
    
    The welds aren't the prettiest but they'll do the job, quite content with them since I'm just a desk monkey
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Have to call it a day, since the I've used up all the gas for welding...
84. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #84 7th August 2013, 23:30

    welded up the bad boy
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
85. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #85 9th August 2013, 08:17

    Finally finished welding!
    
    But I've lost (misplaced) the rubber coupler from the turbo - intercooler piping
    
    Brakes and fluids will go on/in tonight and so I can put her back on her wheels.
    
    After that it's just routing the vacuum lines and sorting out the wiring.
    
    
    

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86. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #86 9th August 2013, 08:27

    Excellent work, looks really good so far.
87. martin1985 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 North East Posts: 510 EP3 Type R

    #87 9th August 2013, 12:04

    looks good!! wish i could have the funds to do this on my car
88. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #88 9th August 2013, 12:15

    Cheers,
    
    When it comes to funds, it's all about bargain hunting and spending hours online (re)searching parts. It took me about 10 months to source everything, and even with all that it's not cheap but I think I got 30% off of the total costs.
89. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #89 12th August 2013, 09:41

    It's back on it's wheels, decided to take the weekend off since my vacation ended and the misses required some attention too
    
    
    
    Tonight I'll continue with sorting out the vacuum lines and getting a start on the wiring.
    
    (lower boost pipe is not connected to the turbo, hence the awkward hanging down)
90. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

    #90 14th August 2013, 22:00

    Man this has gone together fast from when I last had a look, great progress !
    
    How have you found the build then ? I have got myself a manifold at long last so can now get some more work done
91. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #91 15th August 2013, 08:58

    Cheers mate!
    
    The build was fun but quite challenging, since time was an issue because it's on the driveway and I only had 2 weeks off from work.
    
    If you have a place where the car can stand for longer periods the pressure in't on as much and the build wuild be much more enjoyable.
    
    How's your build going? Not going to weld up your own mani anymore?
92. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #92 15th August 2013, 09:02

    
    
    
    
    
    
    Yes I wrapped the alternator cover and dipstick in heat reflective film.
    
    
    
    
    
    
93. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

    #93 16th August 2013, 00:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rowan Cheers mate! The build was fun but quite challenging, since time was an issue because it's on the driveway and I only had 2 weeks off from work. If you have a place where the car can stand for longer periods the pressure in't on as much and the build wuild be much more enjoyable. How's your build going? Not going to weld up your own mani anymore?

    That's good to hear rowan, and I know what you mean about having space, I have an old milking parlour for my car and all the bikes we have so it makes work slower as you can just do stuff when you feel like it.
    
    And no I couldn't be bothered making my own so stalked one on ebay the other day got it for £200, tried it on today and it fits lovely with the t28,
    
    Only problem is it doesn't have an external wastegate runner so I'm going to have to get one in somehow :/
94. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #94 19th August 2013, 09:19

    Engine wiring done! Just need to finish the interior and I'm ready to give it a go
    
    (and yes I still need to place a catchcan)
    
    
    
    
    
95. W343NNA Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 770

    #95 19th August 2013, 13:51

    as usual incredible work matey!

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96. user_61517 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2012 canterbury Posts: 586 3/4 vtr turbo

    #96 19th August 2013, 14:07

    This is on par with porn!
97. wallisidesign Newbie Joined: Aug 2011 Birmingham Posts: 25 Saxo 1600cc Vtr 03

    #97 23rd August 2013, 18:46

    Amazing project mate, Be keeping my eye on this... Beast!! lol
98. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #98 26th August 2013, 07:48

    
    
    Old firmware
    
    
    
    Updated to latest firmware
    
    
    
    It is a bit overwhelming as a first time dealing with this sort of thing.
    But it's just another challenge
99. Oli-VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Nottingham/South London Posts: 976 Icelandic Grey VTR Mk2

    #99 26th August 2013, 08:38

    Holy shiiiiiiiiit
100. weve33 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2013 Posts: 155

     #100 26th August 2013, 08:45

     Epic build!
101. Xsi16v_Jk Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Hereford Posts: 1090 S2 Rallye ITB. Seat Leon FR. Clio 182FF. XSi 16v

     #101 26th August 2013, 21:05

     love the manifold mate.
     will be an animal!
102. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #102 6th September 2013, 09:37

     A wee update.
     
     When it first started it didn't idle and the 4th cilinder wasn't really puttin as much effort into it as the other 3.
     
     Hence I decided to clean the injectors and sparkplugs. Altered some bits in the Vems and started it up.
     
     All 4 cilinders purring and it even idled! (at +/-1200 rpm and only when warm )
     
     And so the first test around the block came to be
     Even though it's not as smooth as it could be, it already is a huge difference.
     I've set the wastegate to .5 bar boost for safety reasons, since it's not really mapped.
     
     This also means that de screamer pipe comes in really fast, and that sound is just pure porn. Which is followed by the HKS bov, and I feel like a little kid again
     
     New tires are being fitted as we speak, then it's of get aligned and the wait for the 1st october when it is getting mapped bij Pieter at DP-Engineering.
     
     A few pics to round it off.
     
     
     
103. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #103 27th September 2013, 08:26

     Teaser:
     
     
     
     (not dyno'd, running on a safe basemap)

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104. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #104 2nd October 2013, 09:51

     After a long day tinkering, mapping and testing a result has been achieved to my satisfaction. Again, I'm not in it for the numbers, for me it's about the driveability and fun (building and driving)
     
     195HP en 270NM @ 0.65 bar
     
     That was all we could get out of the tiny T2 turbo, however I''m very pleased with the result. The power is right where I use it and maybe the chocolate MA box will last a while now.
     
     The drive home from DP-Engineering put a smile on my face from ear to ear
     Even got to test how it holds up in traffic Temperature just above middle in the gauge. The clutch is some getting used to, but works very well.
     
     
     Very pleased with DP-Engineering (Pieter), excellent service!
     
     When I arrived we sat down for coffee and had a chat about my build and other related stuff. Then went to check everything and came across the stepper (iac) which didn't cooperate. After we've been upside down in the car checking the wiring from the vems behind the dash we came to the conclusion some wires have been switched around (my bad). Fixed it and Pieter started the mapping.
     
     After a few minutes Pieter said the standard iat sensor was too "slow", which would affect enrichment and timing in a negative way. So off with the boost piping and het welded up a bung for the new "fast" sensor.
     
     Anyway, after all this tinkering we were a few hours in before the real mapping could finally start. He was working his magic and we came to a good result.
     
     Pieter was impressed with my driveway-build but expected a bigger turbo when he saw the engine with external wastegate, boost controller, etc.
     He recommended a TD04 for more breathing room and performance (whilst still on a budget).
     
     For now I'll just enjoy driving the thing and fixing a few minor things
     
     And the pics:
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
105. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

     #105 2nd October 2013, 13:09

     Excellent result Rowan well done!
     
     Will great fun on the road at these power levels and really drivable! I hope you have a lot of pleasure from it!
     
     So hi to Peiter for me
106. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #106 3rd October 2013, 08:39

     Cheers Ross!
     
     It really is fun and driveable, very happy with it
     
     How's your 106 coming along?
107. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

     #107 3rd October 2013, 10:16

     Yeah good thanks! Got the whole day on it today so I'll write a list of everything left to do - it's fundamentally ready for mapping now!
108. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #108 3rd October 2013, 10:31

     Quote:

     Originally Posted by Ross Yeah good thanks! Got the whole day on it today so I'll write a list of everything left to do - it's fundamentally ready for mapping now!

     Whoohoo! Looking forward to seeing more of your ridiculous (in a good way) pug.

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109. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #109 12th October 2013, 15:21

     Searching for a oem rear bumper
     
     
     
110. Balax L-plater Joined: Sep 2013 Norwich Posts: 32

     #110 12th October 2013, 16:26

     Just had a good read through this, it really is great to see the work people get done on there driveways. You must be very happy with it! I love it!
111. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #111 13th October 2013, 11:17

     Cheers mate! Very happy with it, although i need adress some little things, like rhe rev counter
     
     And from the outside (regarding the rear bumper):
     
     
112. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

     #112 16th October 2013, 19:34

     i wish i could put videos like this up but mine is no where near done.
     
     well done on the build must be a good feeling when boost kicks and and you think to yourself i made this haha
     
     how much pick up and go does 200hp give you then ?
113. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #113 17th October 2013, 08:19

     How's it coming along mate? Oil feed sorted? And what did you mean by Tial msz?
     
     I'm still in the process of trusting my own work, sounds strange but I know what can go wrong and I'm still checking every bolt in my head.
     However the feeling when boost kicks and the screamer starts is really good
     
     It's really driveable with the current power, boost is very predictable and it spools really quick. And it surprises bmw and audi drivers, mostly followed by a thumbs up and a smile.
114. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

     #114 17th October 2013, 18:52

     Yeah oil feed is sorted, will get som pics up soon. And the wastegate is a tial msv, must have spelt it wrong in my thread. Got it from ebay for a nice figure of £28 posted haha.
     
     And i know what you mean i did the same as you when i did my turbo furio, i decided just to take it on the dual carrigeway and go for gold.
115. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #115 1st November 2013, 07:48

     Finishing touch (for now)
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
116. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

     #116 1st November 2013, 09:55

     Awesome Rowan! Really looks nice mate

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117. Jamie Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9363 Focus ST & 206 GTI180

     #117 1st November 2013, 14:46

     Lovely jubbly!
     
     Nice wish I could build something like that! if I ever was though it would have been on my old S because it was rot free doubt there's many knocking about nowadays.
     
     Nice build.
118. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #118 14th February 2014, 09:02

     Update
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     And a fresh MOT, passed with flying colours!
     
     
     
     Also have new JP4 MLS headgasket waiting to be fitted (upping the compression a bit)
119. Wee_monkey1987 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Hertfordshire Posts: 250 2000 Saxo Woodland Green VTS, 2002 Mazda MX5

     #119 30th March 2015, 22:48

     What happened to this?
120. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #120 31st March 2015, 07:37

     Not much, just been driving it.
     
     I'm getting a company car in a month, so maybe I'll carry on with squeezing more power out of the bugger. Or maybe just sell it and get an R34
     
     In the meanwhile, here are some pics for your entertainment
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
121. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

     #121 6th April 2015, 02:23

     Looks the "bizz" Rowan...
122. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #122 6th April 2015, 15:54

     Cheers mate
123. sri_130 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 Doyncaster Posts: 783

     #123 9th December 2019, 22:46

     Quote:

     Originally Posted by Rowan Cheers mate

     You still alive Rowan?
124. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

     #124 10th December 2019, 09:24

     Quote:

     Originally Posted by sri_130 You still alive Rowan?

     Wow that's a blast from the past, a thread revival after 4 years.
     
     But yeah, I'm still alive. The Saxo isn't though, sold in parts.
     
     I've buildt a tracksaxo for a mate in the meanwhile though, which is a few wiring issues away from being finished.
     
     https://www.instagram.com/tracksaxo/?hl=nl