Engine Conversion Options

1. RyanVT Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 16

   #1 5th February 2012, 11:51

   Was wondering if there was some guides to different engine conversions. I have a MkII VTR but has blown it up, so wondering what engines (other than VTS) that can be considered. I may go down the VTS route, but was wondering if there are any reccomeneded engines ( near 150 - 160bhp)
   
   Any guides or what not would be massivlely appreciated so i can look into it.
   
   Cheers Ryan
2. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #2 5th February 2012, 11:58

   Most people will tell you that the best engine to upgrade to is the VTS.
   
   With other larger engines comes more cost and more weight so counteracts any benefit.
3. RyanVT Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 16

   #3 5th February 2012, 12:04

   ok, just im basically looking to have a VTR 16v or what ver it be, just i want it to sit with clio 182s, mini coops supercharged, etc etc, what power would i need from a vts engine to do that, 140bhp ish and stripped out?
4. RyanVT Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 16

   #4 5th February 2012, 12:06

   obviously i could turbo a vtr lump or something, but im sure that would be quite expensive wouldn't it
5. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #5 5th February 2012, 12:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by RyanVT ok, just im basically looking to have a VTR 16v or what ver it be, just i want it to sit with clio 182s, mini coops supercharged, etc etc, what power would i need from a vts engine to do that, 140bhp ish and stripped out?

   16v with a full exhaust, manifold, cam and remap should see you 150bhp.
   
   The clio generally don't put out the 182 they claim so a cammed 16v should be about the same power.
   
   A cheap low boost turbo conversion could be done for a grand (or maybe cheaper) if you source 2nd hand parts and fit it yourself, otherwise you are looking at more.
6. pedro012155 Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 Birmingham Posts: 19 saxo vts

   #6 5th February 2012, 13:04

   your looking over £4000 to have a healphy turbo vtr with 200+ bhp
7. Xplodee Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Rochester, Kent Posts: 493 Saxo VTR

   #7 5th February 2012, 14:14

   You will get the most for your money with a VTS conversion and a few mods like exhaust & a cam. The turbo route will cost alot.

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8. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #8 5th February 2012, 14:17

   Low blow turbo vtr on 10 psi can be don't for 1500 and be reliable as fuck, will leave 182s for fun
   
   Try fittin another engine for that price
9. XxAbzyxX Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 cornwall Posts: 205 Saxo Furio

   #9 5th February 2012, 15:54

   Whats the point in turboing a vtr when you could turno a vts for a little more
10. Tannerman Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Poole/Ferndown Posts: 630 Mk 2 VTR, ZX9R

    #10 5th February 2012, 16:09

    Has anyone ever done a gti6 conversion?
11. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #11 5th February 2012, 16:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by XxAbzyxX Whats the point in turboing a vtr when you could turno a vts for a little more

    if your on a budget it can be alot cheaper and he already has a vtr engine..
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tannerman Has anyone ever done a gti6 conversion?

    yes been done lots, theres even a twin gti 6 conversion kicking about, by no means would even a single be cheap unless your handy at fab work
12. Tannerman Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Poole/Ferndown Posts: 630 Mk 2 VTR, ZX9R

    #12 5th February 2012, 16:27

    I think the double was done by pug performance. Be an awesome engine to have in there if it was simple.
13. Slicks L-plater Joined: May 2011 York Posts: 49 saxo vtr 51 plate maurius blue, peugeot 306 estate

    #13 5th February 2012, 17:12

    theres a 106 with a coupe v6 in it not quite finished but it gives you a idea of what can be done agreed fab work would be ridiculously and proberly turbo a vts for less and leave the v6
14. RyanVT Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 16

    #14 6th February 2012, 00:47

    well i got a fuc ked vtr engine at moment, which is gonna have to be replaced. was considering getting another vtr as have a super sprint manifold and system i had't fitted, but may just sell them and use it to go towards a vts conversion then. ( I assume the manifold wouldn't fit if it was for my MkII vtr would it)? also is there any guides to the vtr 16v conversion?
15. RyanVT Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 16

    #15 6th February 2012, 09:17

    Would a C2 VTS 2005 engine fit into a saxo easily? incl ecu gearbox etc
16. user_56757 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Newcastle upon tyne Posts: 122 Saxo vtr mk2 silver

    #16 6th February 2012, 09:27

    V6 in a saxo now I would like to see that. I'm thinking 16v with a turbo but might just stay if the 8v and turbo cheaper I guess
17. RyanVT Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 16

    #17 6th February 2012, 09:43

    IS there any where in particular apart from ebay and pistonheads to pic up 16v engines, any reccomendations??
18. tomnelson Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2010 coalville Posts: 711 project flat arch

    #18 6th February 2012, 11:05

    406 v6 coupe around 200bhp
19. Tannerman Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Poole/Ferndown Posts: 630 Mk 2 VTR, ZX9R

    #19 6th February 2012, 11:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomnelson 406 v6 coupe around 200bhp

    Very heavy lump
20. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

    #20 6th February 2012, 11:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pedro012155 your looking over £4000 to have a healphy turbo vtr with 200+ bhp

    £4000 thats alot of money? you gonna be buying brand new bits and getting a mechanic to fit it all and do it??
21. tomnelson Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2010 coalville Posts: 711 project flat arch

    #21 6th February 2012, 12:25

    406 v6 arnt that heavy. we had one at work that was an auto with ac and it weighted 1300kg and they are a 3.0 6 210bhp , it will still be a crazy power to weight ratio and the torque crazy.
22. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #22 6th February 2012, 13:13

    We put one of the V6 engines in a stripped 206. I wouldnt waste my time putting it in a saxo tbh, i rekon the bulkhead would need modifying.
    
    Weve also put a gti-6 into a 106 too. Again personally i wouldnt bother with this.
    
    As everyones said if you want a different engine and want a cheap enough conversion then 16v is the way forward. But like blackie said if you home brew a turbo kit for your 8v then thats the most power for your money thats possible in my opinion theres no other way. Mine was stupidly cheap to go from 60 to 150bhp but thats with trade prices no labour practically a free 16v conversion and other free shiz.
    
    Money no option i would love to throw either a 1.8 20vt or one form of a Vaux LET.
23. user_56757 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Newcastle upon tyne Posts: 122 Saxo vtr mk2 silver

    #23 6th February 2012, 13:18

    The saxo with the gti 6 waste of time? Im unsure if a 16v or turbo for my vtr
24. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #24 6th February 2012, 13:30

    A decent cammed 16v will keep up with a 182