1.4-1.6

1. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

   #1 5th February 2012, 20:20

   Right I want a VTR engine replacing my 1.4 so..my questions are...
   
   1. Can I use the same loom?
   2. Will I need unlocked VTR ECU
   3. Stay with my 1.4 gearbox
   
   And any other things to mention will help cheers
2. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

   #2 5th February 2012, 20:52

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3. DeanAngell1234 Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Posts: 1424 Suzuki Swift SZ3 2003 Posi Blue VTS

   #3 5th February 2012, 21:01

   Vts box as the 1.4 box is still quite long like a VTR box!
4. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #4 5th February 2012, 21:07

   to be on the safe side id get a vtr loom, if some one is selling a vtr engine then you might as well take the loom with it?
   
   ecu- are you asking do you need a vtr ecu over a furio one? or do you need a unlocked ecu over a locked vtr ecu? you will want a vtr ecu to start with, and yes having it unlocked helps so much, all you need to do is remove your own immobilser before you plug the ecu in and it'll work, or if it comes locked off the top of my head you will need the key, pick up ring, immobilser and ecu from the same vtr, if the engine comes with a locked ecu and they have scrapped the car with the rest of the btis you need the engine is pretty much worthless as an unlocked ecu costs more than what a vtr engine is worth
   
   and you can keep the 1.4 box and use your 1.4 drive shafts or the 2 piece vtr shafts, but if you fit the vtr box then you will need the vtr shafts as the 1.4 ones will leak oil
5. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

   #5 5th February 2012, 21:27

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jeffchiz to be on the safe side id get a vtr loom, if some one is selling a vtr engine then you might as well take the loom with it? ecu- are you asking do you need a vtr ecu over a furio one? or do you need a unlocked ecu over a locked vtr ecu? you will want a vtr ecu to start with, and yes having it unlocked helps so much, all you need to do is remove your own immobilser before you plug the ecu in and it'll work, or if it comes locked off the top of my head you will need the key, pick up ring, immobilser and ecu from the same vtr, if the engine comes with a locked ecu and they have scrapped the car with the rest of the btis you need the engine is pretty much worthless as an unlocked ecu costs more than what a vtr engine is worth and you can keep the 1.4 box and use your 1.4 drive shafts or the 2 piece vtr shafts, but if you fit the vtr box then you will need the vtr shafts as the 1.4 ones will leak oil

   Cheers..
   Just I can get a 1.6 engine for 185 with unlocked ECU and loom deliverd..
   
   U said unplug my imobiliser before fitting ECU what do you mean exactly?
6. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

   #6 5th February 2012, 22:18

   As mine only has a laser line imobiliser...
7. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #7 6th February 2012, 00:38

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Furio-Gaz-Saxo Cheers.. Just I can get a 1.6 engine for 185 with unlocked ECU and loom deliverd.. U said unplug my imobiliser before fitting ECU what do you mean exactly?

   If you leave your imobiliser plugged in when you connect your unlocked ecu it will lock it and will be useless then its another £50-80 for another ecu.. not sure what a laser line imobiliser is though? Is it aftermarket?
8. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

   #8 6th February 2012, 01:09

   Where's the immobiliser?..
   
   Right lazed line just my alarm dude that fit it said that that's my immobiliser
9. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

   #9 6th February 2012, 02:35

   Right done a bit of reading...
   
   The immobiliser is behind the glove box?
   
   I unplug that...with the old engine in? Running or non running?
   
   Then fit new engine with new unlocked ECU
   
   Then do I re-fit the immobiliser or not?
   
   Really need help..cheers
10. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #10 6th February 2012, 04:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Furio-Gaz-Saxo Right done a bit of reading... The immobiliser is behind the glove box? I unplug that...with the old engine in? Running or non running? Then fit new engine with new unlocked ECU Then do I re-fit the immobiliser or not? Really need help..cheers

    remove immobiliser with the engine running. when you fit the new engine etc do not plug your immobiliser box back in or it WILL lock the new ecu...unless you cut the wires on the loom