possible scammer?

20th February 2012, 18:22

Bought a bonnet off of skids_vts on Saturday 11th - agreement was £50 posted, plus fees came to £52. i paid via Goods on paypal.

thread here of pics and some info.
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...=406244&page=5

i will print screen messages if needs be, but the agreement was it would be posted on tuesday to arrive on wednesday morning, which he told me on the tuesday i was expecting it. i wasn't bothered, only an extra day to wait.

wednesday came, nothing arrived. texted him, turns out he hadn't even sent it off. i was annoyed as tuesday and weds mornings are my only mornings off, i work all other days. he said he would get it sent off weds for delivery thursday.

thursday came, nothing again, he said "i did say id get it to you by friday" which he didnt, at all.

friday came, and nothing still. texted him and he said he has sent out the items through paisley freight and has had issues with them...which i can understand, but..

he gave me a tracking number which said he had sent the item out thursday and its heading to bristol, i live in bournemouth.
he sent me another "tracking number" which doesnt exist.

he then told me he has somehow re-sent the items through TNT now, god knows how he got the items back and sent them through another company, but he said await a new tracking number. i was annoyed as i expected the item tuesday/wednesday but its only a few days, i can deal with that.

he then said i would be expecting delivery Wednesday the 22nd. which is totally by-passing saturday, monday and tuesday. said he would give me another tracking number, but he still hasnt supplied one after asking twice.

monday and nothing has arrived.

i may be jumping the gun, everything may be legit and i may be impatient, but to me it seems ABIT dodgy, no valid tracking number and over 7 working days and nothings arrived..

ive asked for a refund but he said he wont give it to me until i wait till wednesday, fair or not i dont really have a choice lol but if its not here wednesday i will open up a paypal claim etc.

has anyone else had problems with this guy?

£52 isnt the smallest amount of money and i just dont want to be played about (obviously) sorry if im jumping to conclusions but from my point of view it seems abit dodgy.

cheers

20th February 2012, 18:57

I felt the same way until parcel arrived today. Was all happy unwrapped it only to find only 2 of 4 items which were agreed in the parcel. One item being a Vts rad which is absolutely anihallated and warped which I was told was near new, fuel line missing, hoses missing but got dials which we had agreed. He has offered a very small refund which Is a joke so currently awaiting a reply.

20th February 2012, 18:59

so not only is he abit of a knob when just writing in threads, he sucks at selling....brilliant! Hope it gets sorted asap

20th February 2012, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

Bought a bonnet off of skids_vts on Saturday 11th - agreement was £50 posted, plus fees came to £52. i paid via Goods on paypal.

thread here of pics and some info.
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...=406244&page=5

i will print screen messages if needs be, but the agreement was it would be posted on tuesday to arrive on wednesday morning, which he told me on the tuesday i was expecting it. i wasn't bothered, only an extra day to wait.

wednesday came, nothing arrived. texted him, turns out he hadn't even sent it off. i was annoyed as tuesday and weds mornings are my only mornings off, i work all other days. he said he would get it sent off weds for delivery thursday.

thursday came, nothing again, he said "i did say id get it to you by friday" which he didnt, at all.

friday came, and nothing still. texted him and he said he has sent out the items through paisley freight and has had issues with them...which i can understand, but..

he gave me a tracking number which said he had sent the item out thursday and its heading to bristol, i live in bournemouth.
he sent me another "tracking number" which doesnt exist.

he then told me he has somehow re-sent the items through TNT now, god knows how he got the items back and sent them through another company, but he said await a new tracking number. i was annoyed as i expected the item tuesday/wednesday but its only a few days, i can deal with that.

he then said i would be expecting delivery Wednesday the 22nd. which is totally by-passing saturday, monday and tuesday. said he would give me another tracking number, but he still hasnt supplied one after asking twice.

monday and nothing has arrived.

i may be jumping the gun, everything may be legit and i may be impatient, but to me it seems ABIT dodgy, no valid tracking number and over 7 working days and nothings arrived..

ive asked for a refund but he said he wont give it to me until i wait till wednesday, fair or not i dont really have a choice lol but if its not here wednesday i will open up a paypal claim etc.

has anyone else had problems with this guy?

£52 isnt the smallest amount of money and i just dont want to be played about (obviously) sorry if im jumping to conclusions but from my point of view it seems abit dodgy.

cheers

Like i said to you 6 working days is not unreasonable since i do have a life and other more important commitments at the moment. i did apologise several times and did have a lot of un called for abuse off you saying im a liar and the tracking number was false. i even explained this in the original thread of me breaking my vts. I gave you the tracking number which was correct. Here it is again for everyone to see.

P2G8109102. Booked via parcel2go.com with TNT

I think this thread is a bit unfair on my behalf, just because the op is inpatient. Does anyone else think that 6 working days for a part is unreasonable? Im sure if euro car parts took this long you wouldn't be calling them scammers.

20th February 2012, 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich112

I felt the same way until parcel arrived today. Was all happy unwrapped it only to find only 2 of 4 items which were agreed in the parcel. One item being a Vts rad which is absolutely anihallated and warped which I was told was near new, fuel line missing, hoses missing but got dials which we had agreed. He has offered a very small refund which Is a joke so currently awaiting a reply.

I did offer a partial refund and did apologise for this. It wasnt my fault that the rad may have got twisted in transport,It worked 100% and these parts where not advertised as new. They where wrapped adequately and i have nothing to hide as i am a genuine and honest person

20th February 2012, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

so not only is he abit of a knob when just writing in threads, he sucks at selling....brilliant! Hope it gets sorted asap

To be fair this issue has nothing to do with you so i think you should refrain from commenting as you have had no involvement with me at all.

20th February 2012, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Like i said to you 6 working days is not unreasonable since i do have a life and other more important commitments at the moment. i did apologise several times and did have a lot of un called for abuse off you saying im a liar and the tracking number was false. i even explained this in the original thread of me breaking my vts. I gave you the tracking number which was correct. Here it is again for everyone to see.

P2G8109102. Booked via parcel2go.com with TNT

I think this thread is a bit unfair on my behalf, just because the op is inpatient. Does anyone else think that 6 working days for a part is unreasonable? Im sure if euro car parts took this long you wouldn't be calling them scammers.

only 30 minutes ago you said it was 7 working days, but either way you stated next day delivery, then the next day, then the next day, then the next day etc etc.

dont sell something saying next day delivery if your so "busy", if you said before i bought it "i cant send until friday, you wont get it until wednesday" i wouldn't have made this thread, but never such a thing was mentioned.

your not the only guy in the world who has things to do.

plenty of people on here have jobs, families, problems at home or things to do with their time and they still send out things they have stated in the correct time and do not keep delaying the sale.

and PLEASE can you print screen or show me when i called you a liar...PLEASE for my own amusement when did i call you a liar?

like i've said, POSSIBLE scammer as it seems a bit dodgy to me. your missing the whole point, i bought something on saturday, you didn't send it off until thursday/friday as far as i'm aware.

and you NEVER told me to go to parcel2go. you gave me 3/4 different tracking numbers, 2 different companies which were paisley freight and TNT, so i don't know what you thought i should do with the tracking numbers you gave me...oh apart from try them in the websites you told me you sent the bonnet with!

and lastly, you keep referring to euro car parts, i ordered a driveshaft off of them last year, a saturday in fact. it didn't come in until friday when they promised Monday in time for my MOT, tuesday latest. turns out it was the wrong one anyway, so i had a word with the manager. I had less of a rant to them then i have to you, got the driveshaft refunded, a massive apology from the company, and a new correct driveshaft provided for 50% of the price.

like said i shall await wednesday to see if it comes, if it does, and in the condition that you stated then i apologise for possibly jumping the gun, but the delivery either way is appalling when i bought it under the agreement it was next day delivery.

21st February 2012, 07:54

I think the issue with sellers is that they say things are going to happen and they don't...like 'oh it will arrive on Tuesday' and then it doesn't. Whilst this may be a genuine mistake for whatever reason, the buyer will then start to become worried, especially after a second failed promise.

Likely not a scammer but should never say something is going to happen unless you can make sure of it. When selling, I always book a specific service (24/48hr) and tell the buyer they exact date it was posted with the tracking number, fairly easy really.

Having a life is fine but as the seller you should be keeping the buyer updated if things are not happening as agreed.

21st February 2012, 09:53

Does everyone agree if products were miss sold and also some missing then you should expect a full refund and the seller is responsible for paying return?

21st February 2012, 12:46

Wouldnt say a full refund, just refund the difference for what parts were missing.

Or if you're sending it all back, then yes..a full refund at least.

21st February 2012, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich112

One item being a Vts rad which is absolutely anihallated and warped which I was told was near new

Couldn't you have just bought a brand new one there really cheap? only about £30 or get a Nissens Alloy one? - like i have works a treat

21st February 2012, 19:27

Had a TNT slip through the door when I got in...assuming its the bonnet.

They are going to attempt delivery tomorrow so hopefully it will arrive in the morning. They said the sender used the lowest price of delivery so it would have never been next day delivery, they said it was 2-3 working days. So not happy for the price I paid under the agreement of next day delivery.

Next part is too see what condition it is in. He has promised me that it's in mint condition without a single scratch or stone chip so looking forward to seeing how it looks!

21st February 2012, 19:29

good luck mate...

21st February 2012, 20:19

Judging by the rad I got it will be a state.

22nd February 2012, 11:36

well... how was the bonnet?

22nd February 2012, 14:09

I haven't got it yet, TNT said i can't ask for a specific time for it to be delivered..

I work from 12-8pm on wednesday's and it didn't arrive before I left so my nan is at home kindly sitting in waiting for it to arrive. When I get home at 8:30 I will inspect it and post up on here.

If its in mint condition like he promised then there is no problem, just silly long delivery and dodgy service. Aslong as the bonnet is perfect im happy, which I'm yet to find out!

22nd February 2012, 20:09

VERY fucking pissed off

this is the WORST condition bonnet i have ever seen

dents all over it
scratches down the side parts

and it was packaged up by a 2 year old by the looks of things

VERY pissed off.

going to get my money back for sure, no-one EVER buy anything of this user.

22nd February 2012, 20:14

im not even opening the thing, ive walked in and this is how it was delivered by tnt. big dent on the side where the bonnet has been bent, without removing the 37" lcd box wrapped round half of it i can see 4 dents in the bonnet too.

anyone any advice on how i open a dispute on Paypal?

22nd February 2012, 20:21

Ah that's shit! Your quest for a perfect bonnet continues!

22nd February 2012, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshFurioBrookes

Ah that's shit! Your quest for a perfect bonnet continues!

my quest for getting my money back and this guy banned is what starts lol

22nd February 2012, 20:27

Pictures?

22nd February 2012, 20:32

id suggest putting a poo on it, before returning.

22nd February 2012, 20:32

will get pictures up ASAP just taking a few more

22nd February 2012, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

id suggest putting a poo on it, before returning.

+1 aswell make sure you have a curry or kebab night before.

22nd February 2012, 20:35

opened dispute in paypal. just got off the phone with a mate who has bought from him too and he hasnt received his parts either. very pissed off.

22nd February 2012, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

im not even opening the thing, ive walked in and this is how it was delivered by tnt. big dent on the side where the bonnet has been bent, without removing the 37" lcd box wrapped round half of it i can see 4 dents in the bonnet too.

anyone any advice on how i open a dispute on Paypal?

Excuse me? this bonnet was in perfect condition and adequately wrapped. how can you say it has dents in it when you havent even unwrapped the bonnet? I would like to see some pictures!!!!I even showed you pictures of it half hour before i took it off the car

22nd February 2012, 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Excuse me? this bonnet was in perfect condition and adequately wrapped. how can you say it has dents in it when you havent even unwrapped the bonnet? I would like to see some pictures!!!!I even showed you pictures of it half hour before i took it off the car

Knew this was coming.

22nd February 2012, 20:48

pictures before removed from car.
pictures taken.
dropped, jumped on, slid down a bank and used as a paint ball target.
wrapped up and posted.

22nd February 2012, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam

Knew this was coming.

all over ma face ?

22nd February 2012, 20:48

adequately wrapped? hahahahahahha

one second pictures uploading to photobucket

mint condition? where the packaging is so SHIT you can see 1/4 of the bonnet, and that 1/4 alone has 4 dents.

opened dispute and tried to ring you but your not answering

22nd February 2012, 20:50

leave him a violent voice mail.
then me and my mate Rupart can hack the phone and listen in

22nd February 2012, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

all over ma face ?

Over dollys? Oooohhhhhhhhh done ya br0.

22nd February 2012, 20:52

annoyingly the pics arent picking up all the dents, so going to take some more. have 20 pictures coming up though of what i have seen so far, photobucket it taking AGES

22nd February 2012, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam

Over dollys? Oooohhhhhhhhh done ya br0.

she doesnt have a face.

22nd February 2012, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

she doesnt have a face.

stop hijacking the thread you mongrel before i virtually steal your r6!

22nd February 2012, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

she doesnt have a face.

Might not have been her face.. Hehe xx

22nd February 2012, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

pictures before removed from car.
pictures taken.
dropped, jumped on, slid down a bank and used as a paint ball target.
wrapped up and posted.

Haha i think this is why delboy is taking so long to get the pictures up cos hes creating all the dents.

22nd February 2012, 20:56

the 2 that have loaded already.

22nd February 2012, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Haha i think this is why delboy is taking so long to get the pictures up cos hes creating all the dents.

yes, because ive been after a mint condition bonnet for a year now but when i supposedly have one id create dents on it, you flipping retard.

pics are coming up.

22nd February 2012, 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Haha i think this is why delboy is taking so long to get the pictures up cos hes creating all the dents.

whoa man, no need to be mean abit it is there?

22nd February 2012, 20:58

usual place for bonnets to get damaged by couriers tbh, thats why we always wrap pieces of polystyrene round the corners. can't wholy blame the chap, bonnets etc are always risky to post though can also see why you're miffed

22nd February 2012, 20:59

more pics

22nd February 2012, 21:00

AHH MAN!

dat bonnet is well fooked!
but seriously, thats pretty shit.

22nd February 2012, 21:01

thats how is was wrapped? . . .

seriously?

22nd February 2012, 21:03

mandyslover..im pretty certain after seeing the box it was courier damage..

2 things, 1 he should have packaged it up properly not like he did at all
and there are 4/5 dents in the bonnet that could not have been caused from courier

22nd February 2012, 21:03

oh dear, glad it wasn't a 37" LCD in there

22nd February 2012, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by mandyslover70

oh dear, glad it wasn't a 37" LCD in there

thinking maybe he should say there was, and it was damaged during transport and ended up looking like a bonnet.

22nd February 2012, 21:06

Looks like its been wrapped to a good standard.

22nd February 2012, 21:06

the back

22nd February 2012, 21:08

22nd February 2012, 21:08

i can wrap my cock between a blondes legs better than that!

22nd February 2012, 21:09

22nd February 2012, 21:11

So he just taped a old TV box to the front and back of the bonnet basically...How stupid can you get.

22nd February 2012, 21:12

just got pictures of 2 dents ,one minute

22nd February 2012, 21:13

one second have better ones.

22nd February 2012, 21:13

Haaaahhhaaaa i like the way you unwrapped it SLIGHTLY to make me look bad on here. Ok im shit at wrapping christmas presents aswel. But im still yet to see evidence of these dents????

22nd February 2012, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Haaaahhhaaaa i like the way you unwrapped it SLIGHTLY to make me look bad on here. Ok im shit at wrapping christmas presents aswel. But im still yet to see evidence of these dents????

the picture right above you, there is a dent.
i see alot of dust too, could have cleaned it.

22nd February 2012, 21:16

ibtl..

22nd February 2012, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prickle

ibtl..

wut...

22nd February 2012, 21:19

have to shoot out now, but just taken these, you can see the 2 dents.

22nd February 2012, 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Haaaahhhaaaa i like the way you unwrapped it SLIGHTLY to make me look bad on here. Ok im shit at wrapping christmas presents aswel. But im still yet to see evidence of these dents????

unwrapped slightly? im not a prick, i havent flipping touched it! it hasnt moved from where TNT placed it earlier today.

22nd February 2012, 21:25

Skids has messaged me saying he is going to arrange a courier to collect from me and will give me a full refund but can't as delboy has put a claim through against him so his account is on block :/

22nd February 2012, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

unwrapped slightly? im not a prick, i havent flipping touched it! it hasnt moved from where TNT placed it earlier today.

i wouldnt quite agree with you there...

the rest of though, is 100% TROOF!

22nd February 2012, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich112

Skids has messaged me saying he is going to arrange a courier to collect from me and will give me a full refund but can't as delboy has put a claim through against him so his account is on block :/

Yeh I've put in the claim but that doesn't affect him Refunding, that's the whole point of the claim, so he CAN refund lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

i wouldnt quite agree with you there...

the rest of though, is 100% TROOF!

Lol shhhh

22nd February 2012, 22:13

Amuses me how this scammer thinks I've put dents in it myself..

I've been looking for a bonnet for literally a year
I wouldnt have bought a bonnet off you, created my own dents if it was "mint" just to get my own money back, that's the most pointless thing ever

You mis-sold something to me, so I want my money back and for others to be warned of your dodgy dealings.

22nd February 2012, 22:22

Should of just taken your own bonnet to a local bodyshop if you been looking for so long lol
I have 2 decent condition black bonnets, if some one wanted to buy them I allways say pick up as anything can happen during transport. And it's best to look at something in person before handing over hard earned cash

Trust me if you need to buy something really bad just go collect it in person

22nd February 2012, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo_singh

Should of just taken your own bonnet to a local bodyshop if you been looking for so long lol
I have 2 decent condition black bonnets, if some one wanted to buy them I allways say pick up as anything can happen during transport. And it's best to look at something in person before handing over hard earned cash

Trust me if you need to buy something really bad just go collect it in person

Dont have time to collect as I'm either always at college or working

also would have sprayed my bonnet, but it had a slight bend in the middle, and a small 5p dent on the top

Seller hasn't refunded me yet so I await to speak to PayPal..I'm going I print screen everything it was sold as saying perfect condition etc with no dents, yet he won't text me or answer my calls now he knows he has my money and I have this shit bonnet.

So annoyed

22nd February 2012, 23:49

I'm sorry Delboy but I must say I actually laughed at how that bonnet was wrapped....shocking. litteraly a bonnet with abit of cardboard and tape....I wouldn't even wrap some 3" thick steel like that!

23rd February 2012, 00:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

unwrapped slightly? im not a prick, i havent flipping touched it! it hasnt moved from where TNT placed it earlier today.

You can see clearly where the tape has been cut on the back and the box been opened

23rd February 2012, 00:13

its been cut down on one side so he could slide it out a little to look at the shit thats been posted to him.....I'm sorry mate but there is no way in hell you can say that its been packed adequately

23rd February 2012, 00:25

Tbh some of the worst wrapping of a item I have seen

23rd February 2012, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

its been cut down on one side so he could slide it out a little to look at the shit thats been posted to him.....I'm sorry mate but there is no way in hell you can say that its been packed adequately

If you had READ what he said,he claimed he didnt even touch the box,which is a lie,and it wouldnt have slid out because of the way it was packed.

We both agreed that it wouldnt be 100% percent safe in sending the bonnet, but delboy agreed to these terms that this was fine. I padded the top corners of the bonnet. I think he is overexaggerating the damage to the bonnet.
He now claims the bonnet needs to be scrapped, which is a joke.I think people seem to forget that this bonnet is 12 years old, but is in considearbly better condition than your average one, which was stated to delboy.

He even asked for new pictures of the bonnet before he payed, which i put up on here and he was happy with them. The bonnet wasnt overpriced, it was relatively cheap. Im not a scammer he is persitent that i am which is unfair on my behalf

Also there is a lot of slating going on with regards to the packing, Ok it may have not have been perfect, but it was adequate. Im sure 99% of us have has something delivered to our door with a bit of battered packaging and i doubt any of you have complained about it.

23rd February 2012, 00:30

These are the pictures

23rd February 2012, 02:21

If you knew me "skids_vts" then you would know I wouldnt lie.

If I say i haven't done something, then I haven't done it

Your shitty brown tape must have opened/split in transit, I have not touched it 1 bit.

The TNT courier knew it was split before delivery, as he showed my nan it - so it had nothing to do with me.

Your still misunderstood, I want a mint bonnet, why would I ruin one if it was mint? I really don't get your logic..

Also, you are the most 2 faced person in the world, you just texted me saying you want me to keep the bonnet and that you are going to refund me as you don't want any problems..

I text you back saying I have no use for the bonnet so shall I scrap it? Why are you lying to make yourself sound cool, I will print screen everything that has been said

And "we" never agreed sending it 'wouldn't' be safe at all, I wouldn't have bought it otherwise as you promised me it would arrive in mint condition, which I can prove from messages so not sure why your lying again

Why can't you just be real with yourself and understand what youve done wrong, refund me for the bonnet and you can sort a courier to get your bonnet back if you want it that is. People like you in the world annoy me, I don't see why you lie - its not cool and it doesn't make you big. You've made yourself look more and more of an idiot on this thread alone for your poor service, packaging and grammar.

I would be grateful after all of this if you could refund me on the dispute I have started on PayPal. You click 1 button and I have my money back, and you can have the bonnet back, then we're all happy. Your also delaying others saying you can't refund them, which is a lie, if you refund me like your supposed to then there wouldnt be this problem

Many thanks.

23rd February 2012, 02:24

Oh and another lie, you never stated "it was considerably better then your average one"

You stated, and I quote "I can promise you this bonnet is in MINT condition" I then asked if it had any dents or scratches, you said "no mate its perfect"

Will print screen this all if need be.

23rd February 2012, 02:31

Just checked my emails, after texting me saying you were going to refund me, you actually escalated the claim on PayPal to the next stage.. so you dont want to refund me?

Your loss anyway as I have all the evidence you falsely sold an item to me, so I'm cool with that.

23rd February 2012, 07:35

That is piss poor wrapping, OP should be getting refunded.

Learn from it, never pay for something as large and fragile as a bonnet to be posted by a private seller as they want to make as much money as possible!

23rd February 2012, 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

If you knew me "skids_vts" then you would know I wouldnt lie.

If I say i haven't done something, then I haven't done it

Your shitty brown tape must have opened/split in transit, I have not touched it 1 bit.

The TNT courier knew it was split before delivery, as he showed my nan it - so it had nothing to do with me.

Your still misunderstood, I want a mint bonnet, why would I ruin one if it was mint? I really don't get your logic..

Also, you are the most 2 faced person in the world, you just texted me saying you want me to keep the bonnet and that you are going to refund me as you don't want any problems..

I text you back saying I have no use for the bonnet so shall I scrap it? Why are you lying to make yourself sound cool, I will print screen everything that has been said

And "we" never agreed sending it 'wouldn't' be safe at all, I wouldn't have bought it otherwise as you promised me it would arrive in mint condition, which I can prove from messages so not sure why your lying again

Why can't you just be real with yourself and understand what youve done wrong, refund me for the bonnet and you can sort a courier to get your bonnet back if you want it that is. People like you in the world annoy me, I don't see why you lie - its not cool and it doesn't make you big. You've made yourself look more and more of an idiot on this thread alone for your poor service, packaging and grammar.

I would be grateful after all of this if you could refund me on the dispute I have started on PayPal. You click 1 button and I have my money back, and you can have the bonnet back, then we're all happy. Your also delaying others saying you can't refund them, which is a lie, if you refund me like your supposed to then there wouldnt be this problem

Many thanks.

I have sold hundreds of items throught ebay, forums etc.. and have never had someone complain like you. I apologised several times for the delay and for the packaging.The packaging has clearly been tampered with by yourself in the pictures as i wouldnt have sent it like that. What more can i do.I think you already decided that you wasnt going to be happy with the bonnet before it arrived considering the abuse i had off you prior to the delivery. I have tried to be civil throughout and have not ignored you.

With regards to me as a person you have not right to comment. You dont know me other than on the forum. I think your attitude has been uncalled for.

I will refund you the £52 and you can keep the bonnet as i have no need for it. You clearly need the bonnet and £52 more than me

23rd February 2012, 10:37

Can't believe Skids has got the hump with OP. Stop being a cheeky prick about it and apologise.

You fucked up when it came to sending the item on time, you fucked up on the item description and you fucked up on the packaging. You've also had to refund another member.

Not looking good is it? I suggest you stop with the attitude and do everything in your power to sort out this mess that you've created.

Lesson to the OP - collect items in person, book the afternoon off if you need to. I travelled 200 miles for a £15 strut brace once. Not worth the risk.

23rd February 2012, 11:59

I really cant be bothered to argue with you, your constantly lying, i can show texts and messages where youve said the opposite to things you claim you have said. I wasnt "abusive" towards you, after rubbish communication and poor service i was upset i still hadnt received my bonnet.

Im still awaitin my refund, like said on my other comment you actually escalated the dispute instead of refunding me

And cheers tom

i wish i had done that now, ive bought hundreds of bits through post and in person when ive had time and never had this problem.. I just hope for it to get resolved and never put my trust in a seller to post big items again.

23rd February 2012, 13:02

Just to update. I decline the £17 refund I was offered instead of £67.

23rd February 2012, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdawayt

Can't believe Skids has got the hump with OP. Stop being a cheeky prick about it and apologise.

You fucked up when it came to sending the item on time, you fucked up on the item description and you fucked up on the packaging. You've also had to refund another member.

Not looking good is it? I suggest you stop with the attitude and do everything in your power to sort out this mess that you've created.

Lesson to the OP - collect items in person, book the afternoon off if you need to. I travelled 200 miles for a £15 strut brace once. Not worth the risk.

Did you even read what i said?

1) Im not happy because of the abusive txts i have been having, totalling around 100 txts off the OP
2) The OP tampered with the packaging to make me look bad, even though this thread isnt even about bad packaging.
3) The OP has accused me of being a scammer, he even said in one txt that he doubts there is even a bonnet.
4) I have apologised on several occassions.
5) I have left the decision to paypal because i no longer want to deal with the OP because of his arrogance and abusive attitude towards me calling me a liar and a scammer.
6) WE still havent seen evidence of the bonnet being badly damaged, except the the corner which was damaged by the courier.
7) If the Op had put clear pictures of the bonnet unwrapped showing evidence of it apparentely being in such poor condition then i would have held my hands up and refunded him upon return of the bonnet.

23rd February 2012, 14:19

Skidz, why are you saying you wrapped it better than in those pics when you have already admitted it was wrapped like shit

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Haaaahhhaaaa i like the way you unwrapped it SLIGHTLY to make me look bad on here. Ok im shit at wrapping christmas presents aswel. But im still yet to see evidence of these dents????

so he removed a small amout to get pics of it.
i would say, you wrapped it like a bag of twat.

23rd February 2012, 14:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

Skidz, why are you saying you wrapped it better than in those pics when you have already admitted it was wrapped like shit

so he removed a small amout to get pics of it.
i would say, you wrapped it like a bag of twat.

Hmm i didnt say i wrapped it like shit,i said i wrapped it adequately. Even padded the corners. This isnt a packaging competition, if i thought he wanted the packaging to LOOK good aswel i would have put nice pink bows on it

He also claimed he NEVER touched it if you read what he said previously,which is a lie.

23rd February 2012, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Did you even read what i said?

1) Im not happy because of the abusive txts i have been having, totalling around 100 txts off the OP
2) The OP tampered with the packaging to make me look bad, even though this thread isnt even about bad packaging.
3) The OP has accused me of being a scammer, he even said in one txt that he doubts there is even a bonnet.
4) I have apologised on several occassions.
5) I have left the decision to paypal because i no longer want to deal with the OP because of his arrogance and abusive attitude towards me calling me a liar and a scammer.
6) WE still havent seen evidence of the bonnet being badly damaged, except the the corner which was damaged by the courier.
7) If the Op had put clear pictures of the bonnet unwrapped showing evidence of it apparentely being in such poor condition then i would have held my hands up and refunded him upon return of the bonnet.

1. You deserve a kicking up the arse. If that comes accross as abusive texts then fair play. If it takes 100 texts to get his point accross then fair play.
2. This thread is about your poor customer service. That includes delivery, item condition and packaging.
3. I'd say you were lazy, and you don't know the meaning of "mint".
4. Good
5. He has every right to call you a scammer and a liar. The item is not in good condition and it arrived late.
6. Don't know if you missed the pics Delboy posted but it clearly shows two dents and a number of scrapes.
7. He's shown pictures, do you really think he's taken the packaging apart, reattached the box to the bonnet in a comical way just to make you look bad? Really?

How I see it, you've sold somebody damaged goods that didn't match the description, that arrived late causing inconvenience to the buyer and to top it all off there's another customer who's also unhappy with you. Yet you're being argumentative about it. Personally, that's enough to put me off buying from you in future. If anybody else decides to, more fool them.

23rd February 2012, 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdawayt

1. You deserve a kicking up the arse. If that comes accross as abusive texts then fair play. If it takes 100 texts to get his point accross then fair play.
2. This thread is about your poor customer service. That includes delivery, item condition and packaging.
3. I'd say you were lazy, and you don't know the meaning of "mint".
4. Good
5. He has every right to call you a scammer and a liar. The item is not in good condition and it arrived late.
6. Don't know if you missed the pics Delboy posted but it clearly shows two dents and a number of scrapes.
7. He's shown pictures, do you really think he's taken the packaging apart, reattached the box to the bonnet in a comical way just to make you look bad? Really?

How I see it, you've sold somebody damaged goods that didn't match the description, that arrived late causing inconvenience to the buyer and to top it all off there's another customer who's also unhappy with you. Yet you're being argumentative about it. Personally, that's enough to put me off buying from you in future. If anybody else decides to, more fool them.

You dont know the situation so do me a favour and keep your nose out

23rd February 2012, 14:39

Why? Because I made a series of valid points and you have no defense? I know enough from listening to both of you, to judge for myself who I believe to be in the wrong.

23rd February 2012, 14:53

I think speaking and listening wasn't your strong point at school then

23rd February 2012, 14:56

Great attitude.

Potential buyers - Don't bother, he doesn't give a fuck.

23rd February 2012, 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Did you even read what i said?

1) Im not happy because of the abusive txts i have been having, totalling around 100 txts off the OP
2) The OP tampered with the packaging to make me look bad, even though this thread isnt even about bad packaging.
3) The OP has accused me of being a scammer, he even said in one txt that he doubts there is even a bonnet.
4) I have apologised on several occassions.
5) I have left the decision to paypal because i no longer want to deal with the OP because of his arrogance and abusive attitude towards me calling me a liar and a scammer.
6) WE still havent seen evidence of the bonnet being badly damaged, except the the corner which was damaged by the courier.
7) If the Op had put clear pictures of the bonnet unwrapped showing evidence of it apparentely being in such poor condition then i would have held my hands up and refunded him upon return of the bonnet.

i seriously cannot stop laughing

right. you are an absolute joke lol

1. i think it has been around 25 texts, from me to you, and about 22 from you to me. PLEASE show me these abusive texts? i think the worst thing i have texted you is and i quote directly pasted off of my phone on the 20th of february at 17:51

"urm i want my money back, as it hadn't turned up, so give me my money back or ill open the claim on paypal against you"

this is after you pissed me around with 2 different companies god knows how many fake tracking numbers and what not.

AND I QUOTE THIS FROM 3 MINUTES AGO FROM YOURSELF!

"..i have changed my decision because of your attitude towards me. ur lucky i dont cum down an wrap that fuckin bonnet around ur neck"

i can print screen this if need be.

2. how many times do i have to say i HAVE NOT TAMPERED WITH THE PACKAGING. even if i did, which i didnt, thats irrelevant to how shit the rest of it was packed.

i swear on everyone's life i know that is EXACTLY how it arrived.

3. i put up this thread, titled (if you havent seen it already) POSSIBLE scammer, and i said in the first post that it SEEMS dodgy, and that i thought you were POSSIBLY a scammer. please read it again if you do not believe me.

EDIT: either way i was right, lol.

4. you apologised twice.

5. please refer to 1 and 3.

6. im not sure if you can see the pictures i posted, im sure every other member has, of the 2 dents i got a photo off and the big bend on the corner. courier or not, it wasnt me, so i want my money back as i have not received a "mint bonnet" as described.

7. not sure if you have seen the pictures, referring to '6' - please see the pictures, you will understand why everyone else can see the damage.

how many times do i have to keep proving you wrong.

many thanks

23rd February 2012, 15:25

wrap the bonnet around your neck...

thats pretty abusive. id tell the police.

23rd February 2012, 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

wrap the bonnet around your neck...

thats pretty abusive. id tell the police.

Im gonna kill everyone who posted on this thread aswel. think you better tell this to the police

23rd February 2012, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

wrap the bonnet around your neck...

thats pretty abusive. id tell the police.

its all saved on my phone so its always there if need be.

i texted back

"hahahaha be careful what you say before you say it."

his reply was "wat u gonna do prnt screen it"

so i replied "yes."

makes me laugh, he is clearly laughing with a reply of "lol" just after that!

23rd February 2012, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

its all saved on my phone so its always there if need be.

i texted back

"hahahaha be careful what you say before you say it."

his reply was "wat u gonna do prnt screen it"

so i replied "yes."

makes me laugh, he is clearly laughing with a reply of "lol" just after that!

el oh ell

23rd February 2012, 15:34

He'll be banned soon so don't worry about what he says. If he's refusing to refund you you can take the cunt to court or go to the police.

Skidmark - You've really fucked up.

23rd February 2012, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdawayt

He'll be banned soon so don't worry about what he says. If he's refusing to refund you you can take the cunt to court or go to the police.

Skidmark - You've really fucked up.

Excuse me Mr police man look at my phone, this bad man txt me saying he was going to beat me up and he didnt make the wrapping on my bonnet nice and pretty.

Can you go and arrest him please and make him wrap my bonnet up better.

Im sure they would lol

P.S if im banned i'll just set up a new username under skids_vtr and no one will know but shhhh.....

P.S.S Ive got getter things to do than come on here to chat to you bunch of childish idiots anyway, never known a forum like it!!

23rd February 2012, 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Excuse me Mr police man look at my phone, this bad man txt me saying he was going to beat me up and he didnt make the wrapping on my bonnet nice and pretty.

Can you go and arrest him please and make him wrap my bonnet up better.

Im sure they would lol

Actually, yes they would if OP decided to press charges.
you dumb fuck.

23rd February 2012, 15:43

Are you now intentionally making yourself look a mug? Fuck off to your valleys and get off the forum. Just looking at your profile page comments suggests you were late delivering every one of them.

It's not about the packaging looking pretty you absolute fucktard, the item wasn't securely packaged hence the damage.

23rd February 2012, 15:44

but thats not the point.

i think you're a cunt. so im just here to let you know that you are a cunt.

23rd February 2012, 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

Actually, yes they would if OP decided to press charges.
you dumb fuck.

Hmm your the dumb fuck, what exactly is he going to press charges for? And who against? skids_vts?

You fucking retard

23rd February 2012, 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Excuse me Mr police man look at my phone, this bad man txt me saying he was going to beat me up and he didnt make the wrapping on my bonnet nice and pretty.

Can you go and arrest him please and make him wrap my bonnet up better.

Im sure they would lol

P.S if im banned i'll just set up a new username under skids_vtr and no one will know but shhhh.....

P.S.S Ive got getter things to do than come on here to chat to you bunch of childish idiots anyway, never known a forum like it!!

loooooool when did i say this? hahahahahaa please show us.

23rd February 2012, 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Hmm your the dumb fuck, what exactly is he going to press charges for? And who against? skids_vts?

You fucking retard

no, adam smith.

23rd February 2012, 15:46

You're the only person looking childish. Retarded too!

23rd February 2012, 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdawayt

Are you now intentionally making yourself look a mug? Fuck off to your valleys and get off the forum. Just looking at your profile page comments suggests you were late delivering every one of them.

It's not about the packaging looking pretty you absolute fucktard, the item wasn't securely packaged hence the damage.

Yes they where all late, im not going to deny that. But there was a valid reason so you can shut up aswel

23rd February 2012, 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

no, adam smith.

Good luck

23rd February 2012, 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Good luck

you really are deluded arent you?

i love it, soo cute.

23rd February 2012, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

you really are deluded arent you?

i love it, soo cute.

No Tontsy im educated

23rd February 2012, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

No Tontsy im educated

oh

i wish i was.
i cant even spell my own name.

fml.

23rd February 2012, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

No Tontsy im educated

your punctuation, spelling, grammar and attitude say otherwise.

23rd February 2012, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Good luck

thats fine, already have your address.

23rd February 2012, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

thats fine, already have your address.

Ah right yes of course you do

23rd February 2012, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

your punctuation, spelling, grammar and attitude say otherwise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

thats fine, already have your address.

fucking hell Del! be careful, this one is educated.
you should know NOT to mess with the educated!

they might start, flipping some A stars at you. and stars are sharp.

23rd February 2012, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

thats fine, already have your address.

oooh lets play a game is it? who knows more about who?!! ha!

23rd February 2012, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Ah right yes of course you do

after words with the police, paypal headquarters and parcel 2 go, yes, yes i do lol

23rd February 2012, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

oooh lets play a game is it? who knows more about who?!! ha!

i dont think you know what your talking about. i will happily write my address on here, so everyone can see, i can write my full name, you can do what you like, i dont care...im not in the wrong, i know exactly what im doing, my uncle is a loyal representative for a massive solicitor's company, i know what to do - there is no game, there is only justice.

23rd February 2012, 16:04

Hope you get your money back OP

23rd February 2012, 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

oooh lets play a game is it? who knows more about who?!! ha!

i know you have a vagina...with no labia.

your turn.

23rd February 2012, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by ha_x3

Hope you get your money back OP

thankyou mate, time will tell

23rd February 2012, 16:21

All this moaning about £52? Bloody hell.. How much do you guys get paid?

23rd February 2012, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

i dont think you know what your talking about. i will happily write my address on here, so everyone can see, i can write my full name, you can do what you like, i dont care...im not in the wrong, i know exactly what im doing, my uncle is a loyal representative for a massive solicitor's company, i know what to do - there is no game, there is only justice.

I dont think you know what your talking about actually. I already know your name and your address anyway. I would happily do it aswel as i have nothing to hide, its starts with 7 greenfield terrace, and i know you know the rest.To be honest i dont care what your uncle does as it makes no difference to the situation.

Your going to get your money back so stop with the winging.

I am furious to be honest as i explained a problem i had last week which im not going to discuss over sax-p. Im not going to say i havent been a twat because perhaps i have, but then you have aswel towards me.I have only has this attitude with you and no one else because of what you have been saying.

I am sorry that the bonnet didnt reach you in 100% condition, it would have been solved a lot quicker if you hadn't broadcasted the situation on here.

23rd February 2012, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

thankyou mate, time will tell

Ive just been scammed on 106owners, so i know the feeling!! Im sure you will get your money back, iirc you said you have loads of proof texts/emails or something??

23rd February 2012, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

i know you have a vagina...with no labia.

your turn.

I know your a wanker

23rd February 2012, 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by ha_x3

Ive just been scammed on 106owners, so i know the feeling!! Im sure you will get your money back, iirc you said you have loads of proof texts/emails or something??

If you read it all mate, this aint about me scamming the OP, its him winging about the packaging not being pretty enough

23rd February 2012, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

If you read it all mate, this aint about me scamming the OP, its him winging about the packaging not being pretty enough

I know, i have read it all..
Im just saying I know the feeling when something isnt as seemed/expected etc

23rd February 2012, 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoVTR2008

All this moaning about £52? Bloody hell.. How much do you guys get paid?

It's not really anything to do with the price is it? If you bought a pair of jeans at a shop for £50 but the cashier didn't hand them over for a week, would you be happy? Would you then be happy if the jeans had rips and tears in them?

Course you wouldn't, doesn't matter if it's a bonnet or £3 fish and bloody chips. You expect to get what you pay for, as it's described. How much somebody earns has fuck all to do with it.

23rd February 2012, 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdawayt

It's not really anything to do with the price is it? If you bought a pair of jeans at a shop for £50 but the cashier didn't hand them over for a week, would you be happy? Would you then be happy if the jeans had rips and tears in them?

Course you wouldn't, doesn't matter if it's a bonnet or £3 fish and bloody chips. You expect to get what you pay for, as it's described. How much somebody earns has fuck all to do with it.

if i bought a pair of jeans at a SHOP it wouldn't of been USED like this item unless it was a second hand shop

23rd February 2012, 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoVTR2008

if i bought a pair of jeans at a SHOP it wouldn't of been USED like this item unless it was a second hand shop

Point is you expect to get what you pay for!!

23rd February 2012, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ha_x3

Point is you expect to get what you pay for!!

Exactly!!!! £52 including postage for a 12 year old SECOND HAND bonnet

Minus paypal fees, minus delivery, minus cost of tape to pack it. Think i was left over with £30!!

The Op has yet to put up full pictures of the bonnet, and people wonder why im getting slightly annoyed.

23rd February 2012, 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

I dont think you know what your talking about actually. I already know your name and your address anyway. I would happily do it aswel as i have nothing to hide, its starts with 7 greenfield terrace, and i know you know the rest.To be honest i dont care what your uncle does as it makes no difference to the situation.

Your going to get your money back so stop with the winging.

I am furious to be honest as i explained a problem i had last week which im not going to discuss over sax-p. Im not going to say i havent been a twat because perhaps i have, but then you have aswel towards me.I have only has this attitude with you and no one else because of what you have been saying.

I am sorry that the bonnet didnt reach you in 100% condition, it would have been solved a lot quicker if you hadn't broadcasted the situation on here.

this is the nicest thing you've ever said.

you decided to make the situation take longer by escalating it on paypal, you could have pressed "refund"...and like i said on here and on texts, if you had done that i would have got the thread deleted and left this all alone, but you didn't, so not exactly my fault.

i really haven't given you attitude, i haven't threatened you or been nasty or abusive, i'm a buyer who wants my item i paid for in the time i paid for it to arrive, none of them happened therefore i am an unhappy buyer. everyone can see that.

as you had problems with other buyers the point of the thread was just a warning as to what has happened with me and to see what was happened with everyone else regarding yourself.

i hope we can get this sorted by you refunding my money and i will get this bonnet shipped back, or i can scrap it as i have NO use for it what so ever. totally up to you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoVTR2008

All this moaning about £52? Bloody hell.. How much do you guys get paid?

it could have been £5 or £500, its the point of whats happened not so much the amount. if your just trying to show off that £52 is nothing to you then join a money making forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ha_x3

Ive just been scammed on 106owners, so i know the feeling!! Im sure you will get your money back, iirc you said you have loads of proof texts/emails or something??

yes i have all proof of everything thats been said, i just want to get it sorted and get this bonnet out of my living room and get the money back

23rd February 2012, 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Exactly!!!! £52 including postage for a 12 year old SECOND HAND bonnet

Minus paypal fees, minus delivery, minus cost of tape to pack it. Think i was left over with £30!!

right ive had enough, time to print screen everything thats been said to prove how you described the bonnet for the sale.

23rd February 2012, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

I know your a wanker

i know that your mum likes it when i push in a gherkin', till its hurtin'

23rd February 2012, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

it could have been £5 or £500, its the point of whats happened not so much the amount. if your just trying to show off that £52 is nothing to you then join a money making forum.

Your attitude stinks!

23rd February 2012, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoVTR2008

Your attitude stinks!

This is becomming a stinkin situation...

23rd February 2012, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

right ive had enough, time to print screen everything thats been said to prove how you described the bonnet for the sale.

Mate just give up ive had enough to. Its 6 of one and half a dozen fo the other.We could go on like this for ages and i cant be arsed

23rd February 2012, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoVTR2008

Your attitude stinks!

Seriously, Can you blame him?
If everything he says is true then hes paid £52 for something completely different than what was advertised.

23rd February 2012, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoVTR2008

Your attitude stinks!

Brilliant! So it not just me then

23rd February 2012, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoVTR2008

Your attitude stinks!

Lol what did you expect from your post?

You come on to a thread where somebody's been messed around to suggest that we're paid less than you because £52 isn't much to pay for a bonnet.

Edit - I agree it's cheap, but that doesn't mean it should be poorly packaged.

23rd February 2012, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoVTR2008

Your attitude stinks!

my attitude stinks? is he paying you?

im guessing you havent read this thread through

if you really think its about money then your an idiot. its about the fact of whats happened, i didnt get something i paid for regardless of how much is it, doesnt that mean i should get a refund?

rhetorical questions - dont answer them, i know the answer already, and yours will be wrong.

23rd February 2012, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Mate just give up ive had enough to. Its 6 of one and half a dozen fo the other.We could go on like this for ages and i cant be arsed

then refund my money?

23rd February 2012, 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

my attitude stinks? is he paying you?

im guessing you havent read this thread through

if you really think its about money then your an idiot. its about the fact of whats happened, i didnt get something i paid for regardless of how much is it, doesnt that mean i should get a refund?

rhetorical questions - dont answer them, i know the answer already, and yours will be wrong.

I really hate your attitude even more now..
I was just visiting the thread, as you do and thought i'd stick my nose in..
Yes i get paid £13700, take home £800 a month so I probably don't get paid more then you shit happens.
I dunno where you will ever find a perfect bonnet from a saxo though

23rd February 2012, 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

my attitude stinks? is he paying you?

im guessing you havent read this thread through

if you really think its about money then your an idiot. its about the fact of whats happened, i didnt get something i paid for regardless of how much is it, doesnt that mean i should get a refund?

rhetorical questions - dont answer them, i know the answer already, and yours will be wrong.

I think on this whole forum it seems to be the same group of people sticking together as it has been said before. I just dont think you like it when someone else from out of the group has an opinion.

23rd February 2012, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

then refund my money?

Cant now mate or i honestly would. Its being reviewed by paypal, just looked now

23rd February 2012, 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoVTR2008

I really hate your attitude even more now..
I was just visiting the thread, as you do and thought i'd stick my nose in..
Yes i get paid £13700, take home £800 a month so I probably don't get paid more then you shit happens.
I dunno where you will ever find a perfect bonnet from a saxo though

no, you dont, but either way, nothing to do with your money or how much anyone gets paid - i want to return the bonnet.

well i thought i would get a mint one off of Skids_vts, but i was wrong unfortunately.

23rd February 2012, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

LOL, i mean, not to be a knob, but thats hilarious. well done for trying to show off about your lovely money that you get, which is actually not so lovely. i was expecting to see £40,000+ but no, minimum wage.

I never said it was much did I? Sucks being in the marines ey? Don't we wish the military got paid more? Ah well, At least i'm getting my food and accommodation paid for!

23rd February 2012, 16:51

yay, i feel well rich

23rd February 2012, 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Cant now mate or i honestly would. Its being reviewed by paypal, just looked now

you can refund me, if i cancel the dispute, and you refund me within the next 30 minutes then im happy, otherwise i will just open another claim, deal?

23rd February 2012, 16:53

It's not that at all lads.

I don't often speak to Delboy on here, maybe on progress threads but hardly enough to take sides.

But when a bloke had various people waiting on late deliveries, packs things poorly, retracts refunds due to a warning thread on a forum and then acts like a complete child. I'll stick up for the bloke I think is in the right.

Delboy hasn't lost his temper once, has handled the situation calmly and has remained pretty professional throughout.

I don't take sides until enough evidence suggests I should. I've spoken to Skids on the forum before too and never had any issues. So please don't think that I'll stick up for the OP just because he posts on here more than you.

23rd February 2012, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoVTR2008

I never said it was much did I? Sucks being in the marines ey? Don't we wish the military got paid more? Ah well, At least i'm getting my food and accommodation paid for!

i originally read you reply wrong - i thought it said " so i probably DO get paid more than you" so i wrote that comment..

i then read back and it said you dont, but im unsure how you still think £52 is nothing anyways lol

del

23rd February 2012, 16:55

For the record - I'm shocked at how little our marines are paid?! Thought it would be at least twice that??

23rd February 2012, 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

you can refund me, if i cancel the dispute, and you refund me within the next 30 minutes then im happy, otherwise i will just open another claim, deal?

Deal,If you return the bonnet, but it will have to be at your expense?

23rd February 2012, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdawayt

For the record - I'm shocked at how little our marines are paid?! Thought it would be at least twice that??

To hijack this thread even more..
I'm still in basic training, when you reach week 26 in basic training you move up pay to £17k a year.. But for now it's shit!

23rd February 2012, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdawayt

For the record - I'm shocked at how little our marines are paid?! Thought it would be at least twice that??

Im guessing hes still in basic training for that amount.

23rd February 2012, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Deal,If you return the bonnet, but it will have to be at your expense?

sorry, now you want it back? youve said about 5-6 times you have no use for it...im not paying for it to be sent back thats stupid, so ive lost money over nothing - with a lot of hassle! i want my full refund, then you can collect the bonnet if your ever in the area, i can bring it to a car show, if i ever go to south wales i will bring it with me, or you can arrange your own courier to collect it from me..

23rd February 2012, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoVTR2008

To hijack this thread even more..
I'm still in basic training, when you reach week 26 in basic training you move up pay to £17k a year.. But for now it's shit!

Get in the UKSF mate, much better pay

23rd February 2012, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

sorry, now you want it back? youve said about 5-6 times you have no use for it...im not paying for it to be sent back thats stupid, so ive lost money over nothing - with a lot of hassle! i want my full refund, then you can collect the bonnet if your ever in the area, i can bring it to a car show, if i ever go to south wales i will bring it with me, or you can arrange your own courier to collect it from me..

if its no use to him, refund, and you keep it...he wont miss it.
or
break far and refund minus the postage.

you could always make a few quick back a a scrappy with it del.

23rd February 2012, 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

sorry, now you want it back? youve said about 5-6 times you have no use for it...im not paying for it to be sent back thats stupid, so ive lost money over nothing - with a lot of hassle! i want my full refund, then you can collect the bonnet if your ever in the area, i can bring it to a car show, if i ever go to south wales i will bring it with me, or you can arrange your own courier to collect it from me..

Yes please, want to try and get some sort of money back for it. I dont mean this to sound funny in any way but if you did win the claim through paypal(which you would) The £52 would be refunded and you WOULD have to send it back at your expense anyway, its always worked that way.

Or i would be happy to go on the similar lines of what tontsy said above

23rd February 2012, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Yes please, want to try and get some sort of money back for it. I dont mean this to sound funny in any way but if you did win the claim through paypal(which you would) The £52 would be refunded and you WOULD have to send it back at your expense anyway, its always worked that way.

he would get his money back...and keep it.

refund him - minus postage
sell bonnet/scrap locally - make postage back.

23rd February 2012, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Yes please, want to try and get some sort of money back for it. I dont mean this to sound funny in any way but if you did win the claim through paypal(which you would) The £52 would be refunded and you WOULD have to send it back at your expense anyway, its always worked that way.

Or i would be happy to go on the similar lines of what tontsy said above

how much is postage? prove a receipt to how much you paid then refund me the rest.

23rd February 2012, 17:10

sod this im 3 party dropping in you need banning from selling parts in a few weeks you have manage to fuck 3 people off if you think im going to keep texting to to refund my money got another thing coming ....... and bull about carnt cos paypal not let me . everyone owes money but fobbing people off dont work use a bank . i wasnt going to butt in but thought about it and 3 people off here come on .... how many others ?????

23rd February 2012, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

how much is postage? prove a receipt to how much you paid then refund me the rest.

I havent got a receipt but if you go on parcel2go.com. Type in the dimensions of the bonnet i put in. weight 15kg, length 100cm width 15cm height 90cm,this is the price i payed via TNT next day.

23rd February 2012, 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by wassy78

sod this im 3 party dropping in you need banning from selling parts in a few weeks you have manage to fuck 3 people off if you think im going to keep texting to to refund my money got another thing coming ....... and bull about carnt cos paypal not let me . everyone owes money but fobbing people off dont work use a bank . i wasnt going to butt in but thought about it and 3 people off here come on .... how many others ?????

The issue is being sorted. Im not making excuses. To be fair Wassy i said i would refuse to send the parts to you after this thread had been started.They had been returned to me after a failed delivery attempt

23rd February 2012, 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

I havent got a receipt but if you go on parcel2go.com. Type in the dimensions of the bonnet i put in. weight 15kg, length 100cm width 15cm height 90cm,this is the price i payed via TNT next day.

you dont have a receipt ?

23rd February 2012, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

you dont have a receipt ?

Yes i do but it hasn't got a price on it. Your point is?

23rd February 2012, 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

The issue is being sorted. Im not making excuses. To be fair Wassy i said i would refuse to send the parts to you after this thread had been started.They had been returned to me after a failed delivery attempt

and like i said by the text what ever has gone off with the other two has nothing to do with me what im saying is theres other ways of paying ....you shouldnt class every fuck up cos of one thread started

23rd February 2012, 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Yes i do but it hasn't got a price on it. Your point is?

if you paid by parcel2go, you can get an invoice. go to your account, then orders and find the invoice

23rd February 2012, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Yes i do but it hasn't got a price on it. Your point is?

then ask for an invoice.

that, is my point.

23rd February 2012, 18:02

just spoken to paypal on the phone, and skids_vts what you said isnt right..

you refund my £52 as thats what has come out of my bank account, its not my fault about the damage or postage so i do not have to cover costs

if you still want the damaged bonnet, you have to pay for your own courier, nothing to do with me, so you can either wait for the claim to go through and for that to happen, or you can refund me the £52 now and i can scrap bonnet or i can keep it for you if you want to arrange courier, your choice

23rd February 2012, 18:02

My god we still going at it here!? Just send him the bloody £52 back so its in his pocket so he can throw that shit bonnet in the back of a courier van at your cost to get wrecked even more so you can try and sell it again for £3....If you had just refunded him in the first place, all this would be long gone!

23rd February 2012, 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdawayt

It's not that at all lads.

I don't often speak to Delboy on here, maybe on progress threads but hardly enough to take sides.

But when a bloke had various people waiting on late deliveries, packs things poorly, retracts refunds due to a warning thread on a forum and then acts like a complete child. I'll stick up for the bloke I think is in the right.

Delboy hasn't lost his temper once, has handled the situation calmly and has remained pretty professional throughout.

I don't take sides until enough evidence suggests I should. I've spoken to Skids on the forum before too and never had any issues. So please don't think that I'll stick up for the OP just because he posts on here more than you.

Not exactly professional saying watch out my uncle its a hot shot lawyer, that's a bit childish. Alas he is in the right no disputing that but to be honest it'd have just put the Paypal claim in and sorted it through them instead of on line bickering.

23rd February 2012, 18:15

Skids your a class A cunt, just saying.

23rd February 2012, 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

just spoken to paypal on the phone, and skids_vts what you said isnt right..

you refund my £52 as thats what has come out of my bank account, its not my fault about the damage or postage so i do not have to cover costs

if you still want the damaged bonnet, you have to pay for your own courier, nothing to do with me, so you can either wait for the claim to go through and for that to happen, or you can refund me the £52 now and i can scrap bonnet or i can keep it for you if you want to arrange courier, your choice

Ok mate you will find out that i am actually right. If you went to return an item to a shop for instance after gettin home and finding it was faulty would you then proceed to demand a refund for the petrol cost and parking cost for example because you had to take it back? NO! This is the same principle.In any circumstance, not just this one, if your unhappy with an item it is returned at your expense.
Once paypal has decided in your favour, let me know and i can send you my correct address for you to return the bonnet at your expense.

Thankyou

23rd February 2012, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam

Skids your a class A cunt, just saying.

Yes i can be a right cunt when someone is a cunt to me

23rd February 2012, 18:21

Mildly entertaining thread.

Skidpatch does appear to sound like a scammer, more excuses than a ladies gymnasium, I think he should be banned from the for sale section at least.

23rd February 2012, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Ok mate you will find out that i am actually right. If you went to return an item to a shop for instance after gettin home and finding it was faulty would you then proceed to demand a refund for the petrol cost and parking cost for example because you had to take it back? NO! This is the same principle.In any circumstance, not just this one, if your unhappy with an item it is returned at your expense.
Once paypal has decided in your favour, let me know and i can send you my correct address for you to return the bonnet at your expense.

No shop would make you pay for the cost of returning it if its damaged! Do you ever buy anything off the internet? I've had plenty arrive to me damaged and all have been sent back at the sellers cost and a refund or a replacement that is in condition that you expect it to be in.

23rd February 2012, 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

No shop would make you pay for the cost of returning it if its damaged! Do you ever buy anything off the internet? I've had plenty arrive to me damaged and all have been sent back at the sellers cost and a refund or a replacement that is in condition that you expect it to be in.

Yes probably when you buy your knickers from littlewoods, they are returned at littlewoods expense. I reffered to walking into a shop numb nuts.

Haha i love this thread with all you small minded imbeciles

23rd February 2012, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Yes probably when you buy your knickers from littlewoods, they are returned at littlewoods expense. I reffered to walking into a shop numb nuts.

Haha i love this thread with all you small minded imbeciles

It's £52 ffs, just refund it.

23rd February 2012, 18:26

So when do I get my refund ? If spent I don't mind if your saying it got sent then returned then again fine as you didn't expect the problems I take it . But other ways of paying than paypal ?

23rd February 2012, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by e8_pqck

Not exactly professional saying watch out my uncle its a hot shot lawyer, that's a bit childish. Alas he is in the right no disputing that but to be honest it'd have just put the Paypal claim in and sorted it through them instead of on line bickering.

never said such a thing, i said he is a loyal representative so i know roughly the law on what to do with this sort of thing, never bragged and said id get him involved, please dont jump to conclusions.

23rd February 2012, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Yes probably when you buy your knickers from littlewoods, they are returned at littlewoods expense. I referred* to walking into a shop numb nuts.

Haha i love this thread with all you small minded imbeciles

yes, walking into a shop is an expense . . .
dont forget your high educational values when you let your temper run wild.

23rd February 2012, 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Yes probably when you buy your knickers from littlewoods, they are returned at littlewoods expense. I reffered to walking into a shop numb nuts.

Haha i love this thread with all you small minded imbeciles

Did he walk into a shop and buy the bonnet? Thought not, he bought it on the internet which was what I was compairing against. He doesn't owe you shit, you owe him money if you want the bonnet back, then pay for it to be thrown back to you

23rd February 2012, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Ok mate you will find out that i am actually right. If you went to return an item to a shop for instance after gettin home and finding it was faulty would you then proceed to demand a refund for the petrol cost and parking cost for example because you had to take it back? NO! This is the same principle.In any circumstance, not just this one, if your unhappy with an item it is returned at your expense.
Once paypal has decided in your favour, let me know and i can send you my correct address for you to return the bonnet at your expense.

Thankyou

ohhhh paypal must be wrong then, i suppose the guy i spoke to only works for them and deals with disputes every day

i WILL NOT be returning the bonnet "at my expense". you can transfer the postage fee's ontop of my money back if you want it back, its your terrible packaging and lying about condition that has caused it to get damaged in transit and me not wanting it.

none of this is my fault, so why should i be punished?

just refund my money for god's sake.

23rd February 2012, 18:35

REFUND - full ammount
SCRAP - the bonnet.

23rd February 2012, 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

REFUND - full ammount
SCRAP - the bonnet.

this is the best idea ever!

23rd February 2012, 18:48

omg this thread is still going..
just refund the op and arrange to pickup your bonnet ffs..
its not rocket science

23rd February 2012, 18:48

And my refund please

23rd February 2012, 19:09

rich112
Delboy

Since you have both decided to claim via paypal i will let paypal decide the outcome. This is inevitably going to take longer on your behalf but since you have both been unreasonable this is the only way i will do it now.

I offered rich112 a partial refund and i offered delboy a full refund minus the postage costs and to keep the bonnet, which they have both turned down. Everyone has seen this as it has been mentioned in the thread.I dont think this is unreasonable but considering your childish behaviour and from several other people in the thread this is the only option.

A few people will no doubt have something to say to this, but these issues have nothing to do with them and should refrain from commenting. The issue at hand is a personal issue and delboy should never had broadcasted it over a forum.

23rd February 2012, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

rich112
Delboy

Since you have both decided to claim via paypal i will let paypal decide the outcome. This is inevitably going to take longer on your behalf but since you have both been unreasonable this is the only way i will do it now.

I offered rich112 a partial refund and i offered delboy a full refund minus the postage costs and to keep the bonnet. Everyone has seen this as it has been mentioned in the thread.I dont think this is unreasonable but considering your childish behaviour and from several other people in the thread this is the only option.

Your only delaying the inevitable outcome of you paying a full refund to both parties, why bother with all this time and hassle?

23rd February 2012, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

rich112
Delboy

Since you have both decided to claim via paypal i will let paypal decide the outcome.* This is inevitably going to take longer on your behalf but since you have both been unreasonable** this is the only way i will do it now.

*two claims in such a small space of time... i dont think its going to swing your way is it.

**have they really?

23rd February 2012, 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

Your only delaying the inevitable outcome of you paying a full refund to both parties, why bother with all this time and hassle?

I want it to be dealt with through the correct procedure. They both made the decision of claiming through paypal instead of contacting me first. They have created hassle for themselves by doing so. I do have a say in the situation, which has not been heard in the thread. I have the money give back to them both no problem but they have created this problem for themselves, im not going to stand back and be walked over. Ok i might come across as a bit of a prick but put yourself in my position.

If you read the first page i already had a string of abuse before the bonnet even arrived, including from yourself.

23rd February 2012, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

*two claims in such a small space of time... i dont think its going to swing your way is it.

**have they really?

I know the claims will no doubt go in their favour, 99% of the time it does go in the buyers.

Yes they have been unreasonable, like i just said i had a string of abuse and false accusations before the bonnet even arrived.

23rd February 2012, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

I know the claims will no doubt go in their favour, 99% of the time it does go in the buyers.

Yes they have been unreasonable, like i just said i had a string of abuse and false accusations before the bonnet even arrived.

and you havnt returned the abuse?
i wouldnt say you are the innocent party here...

23rd February 2012, 19:27

Thats because you cocked about when sending it off, you said next day when it actually took you 6 days (working days) hence why he thought you'd had him of his money. Or was at least leaning towards that way. Someone else was also awaiting a refund for whatever it was.

End of the day mate, you ain't helped yourself out at any point during all of this. If you where busy and didn't have time to send it next day then tell him and let him know! If i've ever sold something and said i'll send next day or whatever, if I don't manage to due to whatever I let them know. Keep them up-to-date throughout the whole process of it. And actually package shit properly and none of this happens!

Simple really.

23rd February 2012, 19:28

ibtl..

End of the day, it looks like skidmarks has wrapped up a bonnet with his cock and taped it with his nutsacks..

23rd February 2012, 19:34

Hello what about little old me I need to buy more drugs

23rd February 2012, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tontsy

and you havnt returned the abuse?
i wouldnt say you are the innocent party here...

Yes i did return it because quite frankly why should i stand for it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

Thats because you cocked about when sending it off, you said next day when it actually took you 6 days (working days) hence why he thought you'd had him of his money. Or was at least leaning towards that way. Someone else was also awaiting a refund for whatever it was.

End of the day mate, you ain't helped yourself out at any point during all of this. If you where busy and didn't have time to send it next day then tell him and let him know! If i've ever sold something and said i'll send next day or whatever, if I don't manage to due to whatever I let them know. Keep them up-to-date throughout the whole process of it. And actually package shit properly and none of this happens!

Simple really.

I did actually keep the buyer updated every single day. Explained why it will be late and apologised for it.

23rd February 2012, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Yes i did return it because quite frankly why should i stand for it?

there is standing for it, then there is calling everyone who post in here a wanker or something.
you gave, just as good as you received and in return you now have a thumbs down reputation.

i wouldnt say anyone was being the "bigger" man in this thread in terms of behaviour or responsibility. everyone has been as bad as another.

but now there are 3 people saying you have mugged them off...it doesnt look good, from anyones point of view.

23rd February 2012, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

I want it to be dealt with through the correct procedure. They both made the decision of claiming through paypal instead of contacting me first. They have created hassle for themselves by doing so. I do have a say in the situation, which has not been heard in the thread. I have the money give back to them both no problem but they have created this problem for themselves, im not going to stand back and be walked over. Ok i might come across as a bit of a prick but put yourself in my position.

If you read the first page i already had a string of abuse before the bonnet even arrived, including from yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

I know the claims will no doubt go in their favour, 99% of the time it does go in the buyers.

Yes they have been unreasonable, like i just said i had a string of abuse and false accusations before the bonnet even arrived.

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

rich112
Delboy

Since you have both decided to claim via paypal i will let paypal decide the outcome. This is inevitably going to take longer on your behalf but since you have both been unreasonable this is the only way i will do it now.

I offered rich112 a partial refund and i offered delboy a full refund minus the postage costs and to keep the bonnet, which they have both turned down. Everyone has seen this as it has been mentioned in the thread.I dont think this is unreasonable but considering your childish behaviour and from several other people in the thread this is the only option.

A few people will no doubt have something to say to this, but these issues have nothing to do with them and should refrain from commenting. The issue at hand is a personal issue and delboy should never had broadcasted it over a forum.

you have got to be joking?

you are joking right?

i opened the claim like 2 hours after contacting you, i said you can refund my money or ill open a claim

you said you wont refund it, so i opened a claim

THAT SIMPLE

i want my full refund and nothing else, you can do what you want with the bonnet, i really dont care

string of abuse? are you a baby? SHIT. i didnt say 1 thing wrong to you, imagine if i said to YOU that id wrap a bonnet around your neck, by the sounds of things at that stage you would have committed.

man up, you sold something dodgy and i want my money back, stop making excuses, your getting me really angry now, refund my money!

you decided to make the claim longer, not me, you said to me you would refund me then you just escalated the claim, contradicting everything you already said. i want this over and done with - i will win the claim on paypal and get my money back, then scrap the bonnet if needs be but i am not spending my hard earned cash on delivering this dented bonnet back to you.

you can quote me on this

YOU ARE A LIAR

you say one thing then do another.

refund my money on paypal, then you can do what you like with the bonnet. i will store it here for however long you want before you can collect it or arrange a courier.

i have every right to post your scamming lies all over the forum, so no-one ever buys from you again as all you will do is fuck everyone about.

refund my money and Rich's, and wassy's

23rd February 2012, 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by skids_vts

Yes i did return it because quite frankly why should i stand for it?

I did actually keep the buyer updated every single day. Explained why it will be late and apologised for it.

lies lies and wait, lies

23rd February 2012, 19:46

then give me some money too

23rd February 2012, 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delboy

lies lies and wait, lies

Thought as much

tbh skids I think your better off just not posting on here anymore. No-one respects you, no-one will buy anything from you so I think your best keep hush and keeping yourself to yourself and do this