Sump guard/belly pan.

27th February 2012, 19:41

im trying to find a full belly pan for a saxo, but all i can find is sump guards and tank guards.

does aybody know if there is a full belly pan guard for a saxo/106 that covers the whole underside of the engine bay atleast? or the full underside of the car?

cant find anything.

cheers.

oh, and im not part of the track section so had to post here, hope you dont mind.

27th February 2012, 20:16

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motors...er-floor-guard

only one i can find is on tweeks, but surely theres some cheaper somewhere?

27th February 2012, 20:30

no idea if its same thing or not but this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3306665846...84.m1423.l2649

27th February 2012, 20:39

think that is just the sump guard mate, im after one that overs the whole underside.

this is what im after, its a used one from demon tweeks, but new they are 392 quid, shame this one is about fucked or i would of bought it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-10...item3cc2d68c39

they do look good tho, and would definately do the job, migt just buy one.

27th February 2012, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick_VTR

think that is just the sump guard mate, im after one that overs the whole underside.

this is what im after, its a used one from demon tweeks, but new they are 392 quid, shame this one is about fucked or i would of bought it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-10...item3cc2d68c39

they do look good tho, and would definately do the job, migt just buy one.

I'd buy that second hand one you found, repair and spray

Good find considering the cost of a new one!

27th February 2012, 22:05

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Originally Posted by s555dan

I'd buy that second hand one you found, repair and spray

Good find considering the cost of a new one!

it looks pretty fucked though?

and would be a ball ache to fix it up, as any kinda repair would just get damaged again from the heat of the exhaust that fucked it in the first place?

mind you it was on the sellers car for a few years so i guess it has held up well to the ammount off rally's its probably been used on.

27th February 2012, 22:22

I guess it would depend on what you are using it for, if your rallying then its going to end up looking like that after a couple of stages anyway. If its for styling then a new one would be much easier.

28th February 2012, 00:29

That's a fair price for large piece of carbon kevlar like that

28th February 2012, 00:38

id quite like a sump guard tbh

id much rather get that 2nd hand one for £40 than a new one over £300
you never know how much more life you can get out of it

28th February 2012, 14:19

it will be used for fast road, and where i live is lots of little single track lanes with pot holes and bumps and lumps all over, and th track to my house is stone with a raised grass part in the middle which the underside of my car keeps scraping on if i drive faster than 2mph.

just cant have any fun in the car on the lanes with out the exhaust/sump scraping the floor.

think i am going to buy a new one eventualy when ive dropped the new engine and box in, atleast that way it will last me.

28th February 2012, 15:11

If the lanes are as bad as you say, then I doubt a kevlar one would be up to scratch, a steel or alloy one is needed.

Also consider that the guard will sit even lower depending on how well its shaped and fitted, so unless you raise your car, it will hit the floor eeven more often!

28th February 2012, 18:30

I know what you mean about raised grassy bits.... Bit of an annoyance.

Sounds like you have a decent budget, a new pan would finish off and protect your new engine and box nicely.

Still its a lot of money, you could raise the car depending on your current drop. Or buy a ton of gravel and raise your drive lol

28th February 2012, 20:27

haha, sorting the drive would be one option, but cba really.

so far i have only been able to find a carbon kevlar one that covers the whole bottom side to side, all the steel or ally ones ive found are just little sump guards.

i think the kevlar one would be suffice. as i dont cane it down the lanes all the time, just occasionaly when im in the car on my own, and occasionaly go up the forestry by my mates house on the gravel roads so could do with protection from stones etc aswell as a little scrapage when on the tarmac.

i will let you know how it is if/when i buy one

28th February 2012, 20:34

whats wrong with a little sump guard?

28th February 2012, 20:39

Been looking for these on and off for a while. You should stay away from the staylittle road and you'll be ok

28th February 2012, 20:48

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Originally Posted by LSOfreak

whats wrong with a little sump guard?

i want/need one that covers the whole underside, ie. the exhaust and the gear box and surrounding areas mate.

as my centre section sometimes catches the road when suspension is all the way down.

i never go up stay little way so im alright mate haha, roads up there are shocking.

28th February 2012, 22:54

someone i used to know had a xsi which was basicly used and abused up along the plains and his dad owned a steel fabrication and metal works place and he got some sheet steel and made up 2 big sections front (whole under engine ect...) then another sheet covering the whole underside from rear of sump back to centerpiper to back box connection.

took alot of cutting of the steel to fit around/bent under fuel tank , rear beam but it did protect the under side what he did was use some like clamps/quick release bolts down the sides of the steel to the sill of the car.

29th February 2012, 00:01

yeah, that would probably be your best bet if you fancy a challenge. Get a bit of cardboard and make up a template then find a sheet of stainless steel and cut it to shape

29th February 2012, 02:12

Seems a lot of money and fuse for which is a simpe problem your saxo is to low. My saxo atm sits quite low and i never had a problem will bumps and i go down lanes to get to work. But I want the car highering as silly lows on a road car really dont work. And if you had it rasied the car would handle better.

So I'd save the money have the heigh changed and enjoy been able to enjoy the car more.

29th February 2012, 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by leighk18

Seems a lot of money and fuse for which is a simpe problem your saxo is to low. My saxo atm sits quite low and i never had a problem will bumps and i go down lanes to get to work. But I want the car highering as silly lows on a road car really dont work. And if you had it rasied the car would handle better.

So I'd save the money have the heigh changed and enjoy been able to enjoy the car more.

its only down 40mm fella.

plus saxos look wank higher than a 35/40mm drop.

mine handles alot better since lowering than it did when it was standard hieght and thats a fact.

i need strut braces but think a lower brace is out of the question lol.

might see if i can make a small one to fit between the under tray and the car.

29th February 2012, 09:14

Thats strange that it's catchinat only 40 mm
My pug was decked on coilies with helper spring removed around 100mm I measured and I was catching just the bottom of the mani everywhere
Once I killed the mani I got 40mm springs and b8s and havent caught it on anything since

29th February 2012, 10:09

I'd say stones flicking up are very unlikely to puncture your sump, its the ones you actually hit which cause the damage. In which case, a kevlar one would just break and would hit your sump anyway.

I've got a progress thread on 106 owners of my road rally xsi with an alloy pts guard if you fancy a look. It covers from the front of the chassis leg, all the way back to just behind the bulkhead on the subframe.

It's adequate enough for road rallying in north/mid wales, so I'm pretty sure it would be adequate for your little lane

It's from motorsport-tools.com!

29th February 2012, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by EwynSaxo

Thats strange that it's catchinat only 40 mm
My pug was decked on coilies with helper spring removed around 100mm I measured and I was catching just the bottom of the mani everywhere
Once I killed the mani I got 40mm springs and b8s and havent caught it on anything since

i doubt you were 'ragging it down the lanes' with it being that low tho were you? lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike_Roberts

I'd say stones flicking up are very unlikely to puncture your sump, its the ones you actually hit which cause the damage. In which case, a kevlar one would just break and would hit your sump anyway.

I've got a progress thread on 106 owners of my road rally xsi with an alloy pts guard if you fancy a look. It covers from the front of the chassis leg, all the way back to just behind the bulkhead on the subframe.

It's adequate enough for road rallying in north/mid wales, so I'm pretty sure it would be adequate for your little lane

It's from motorsport-tools.com!

i will take a look mate thanks.

you got a link for your progress thread on 106moaners? lol

29th February 2012, 12:55

http://www.motorsport-tools.com/peug...-p-246204.html

guessing thats the one.

they dont make one for a saxo? but i would think the 106 one should still fit as everything is still in the same place?

looks very strong and shiney

29th February 2012, 15:25

Yes it shouldn't be a problem. Spent a fair while cutting and grinding mine to make the mounts as strong as possible. The little wings at the side prevent it from bending, and they also protect the bottom arm front bushes.

29th February 2012, 17:47

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Originally Posted by Mike_Roberts

Yes it shouldn't be a problem. Spent a fair while cutting and grinding mine to make the mounts as strong as possible. The little wings at the side prevent it from bending, and they also protect the bottom arm front bushes.

can you post a link to your progress thread on 106 owners mate?

1st March 2012, 08:24

http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/sh...road-rally-car

10th March 2012, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick_VTR

think that is just the sump guard mate, im after one that overs the whole underside.

this is what im after, its a used one from demon tweeks, but new they are 392 quid, shame this one is about fucked or i would of bought it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-10...item3cc2d68c39

they do look good tho, and would definately do the job, migt just buy one.

Bloody ell, I've bought that !!! It's not as bad as it looked actually. May trim out the burnt area where exhaust had been and repair, dunno yet.

If I hadn't got this I was gonna get some industrial plastic drums or an IBC and cut it into a few layers pop rivetted together.
Only using Saxo for PC Trials so pretty low speeds but feckin RUFF !!