about modified saxo vts

1. ers10weys91 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 89

   #1 1st March 2012, 20:42

   Hi guys
   
   Which parts need to use for 160-170 hp?
   for road and track day use
2. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #2 1st March 2012, 22:36

   for 160-170
   
   decent exhaust (kam/saxport/magnex ect)
   manifold
   catcam 708 newman ph3 or similar kent or piper ect
   bodies/bike carbs
   some form of ecu to manage it
   
   so say for example and probably the cheapest way to do it
   
   kam racing full system
   raceland manifold
   708s
   at power itbs
   predator ecu
   
   should see low 160s with that
3. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

   #3 2nd March 2012, 07:13

   Personally I wouldn't opt for bodies and save myself £1000. With the above spec minus bodies you'll still run round the 155bhp mark. Improve the little things and a decent map and you could probably stretch to 160bhp. But that's the extreme limit.
   
   The £1000 saved could then be spent on better brakes and suspension which will make the car a lot faster than an additional 10bhp.
4. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #4 2nd March 2012, 11:51

   But bodies sound better
   
   You get much smoother curves and better mud range with bodie which makes it a lot more driveable
   plus your only saving 500-600 quid as youll still need management tweaks (map ir pred) to run the cams
5. Ollierockk Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Bognor Regis Posts: 117 1. MK1 Amazin VTS 2. RX-8 231

   #5 2nd March 2012, 12:03

   So i guess even just a standard turbo conv wouldn't produce those figures?
6. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #6 2nd March 2012, 14:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by AlexB for 160-170 decent exhaust (kam/saxport/magnex ect) manifold catcam 708 newman ph3 or similar kent or piper ect bodies/bike carbs some form of ecu to manage it so say for example and probably the cheapest way to do it kam racing full system raceland manifold 708s at power itbs predator ecu should see low 160s with that

   If you swop the 708,s for my ulitmate road cams then you have the cheapest way --my cams £50 cheaper+vat
7. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #7 2nd March 2012, 18:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ollierockk So i guess even just a standard turbo conv wouldn't produce those figures?

   turbo would produce 170 yea i just never think of them as im an n/a boy
   
   some of the boost guys could reccomend a turbo setup that could see that power i bet
8. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #8 2nd March 2012, 18:43

   Just depend's on what money you got to spend, can get a air filter for a £10 or a turbo kit for £3000 +.
9. ers10weys91 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 89

   #9 3rd March 2012, 19:01

   How much bhp ?
   cat 708
   Simota Aeroform II Induction Kit
   4-2-1 manifold with exhaust system supersprint
   Standard ECU mapped
   port polish throttle
   s1 gear box
   light flywheel
   short shift
10. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #10 3rd March 2012, 19:35

    gearbox and short shift wont effect bhp
    
    youll be looking 155ish at that lot mapped up

    1 user thanked this post: ers10weys91
11. ers10weys91 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 89

    #11 3rd March 2012, 19:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB gearbox and short shift wont effect bhp youll be looking 155ish at that lot mapped up

    thanks Alex
    Do you have information about this product?
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/citroen/c...-saxo-16v.html
12. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #12 3rd March 2012, 20:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ers10weys91 thanks Alex Do you have information about this product? http://www.kamracing.co.uk/citroen/c...-saxo-16v.html

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=415538
    
    little info on here tbh they dont do much but every little helps i guess
    ive got a set on mine but not ran it with them fitted
13. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #13 3rd March 2012, 20:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ers10weys91 How much bhp ? cat 708 Simota Aeroform II Induction Kit 4-2-1 manifold with exhaust system supersprint Standard ECU mapped port polish throttle s1 gear box light flywheel short shift

    Catcam 708's
    Raceland induction
    Raceland 4-2-1, SS centre pipe, Magnex rear box
    Standard ECU mapped
    
    ^ That made 141hp/121 lb/ft on my car on a dyno dynamics RR - The Red line
    
    
    
    Port and polished throttle body helped with response and gave me an extra 2hp on another RR. It was tested before and after in the same hour.
14. ers10weys91 L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 89

    #14 4th March 2012, 19:00

    Dimensions 14'' or 15''
    Is there a difference in acceleration?
15. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #15 5th March 2012, 02:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ers10weys91 Dimensions 14'' or 15'' Is there a difference in acceleration?

    do you mean wheel size? if so then probably not. smaller wheels have larger profile tyres and they usually work out around the same overall. e.g my 13" steels with a regular larger profile tyre are the same size as my 15" alloys with low pros