16v Cams

1. philb121 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Wrexham / North Wales Posts: 406 Saxo forte 1.1i

   #1 17th April 2012, 12:48

   Does anybody rate the Fast Road Cat Cams?
   Im stuck between Cat or Newman Ph2 or Ph3 cams?
   
   Whos has what and what power will they give me?
   
   I got a 1.4 Furio with a C2 VTS Engine 32,000 Miles
   Approx running 130 bhp with Filter and Exhaust, Now looking for something with a kick
   
   Will also be getting re-mapped after the cams
2. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

   #2 17th April 2012, 13:16

   If you've got a C2 Vts engine in there then you want cams specific for the tu5jp4 engine. KamRacing sell them.
   
   In answer to your question there's not a lot in all the 'fast road' cams, theyre all pretty similar and produce the same output ish. Catcams 705's and Newmans PH3's would benefit from a remap but it's not essential.
3. philb121 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Wrexham / North Wales Posts: 406 Saxo forte 1.1i

   #3 17th April 2012, 16:27

   Yeahh thats where i been looking and im unsure which cams would give more power/ performance, and i heard somewhere that GTi/VTS cams fit into c2 engines, and are smaller and give more power ??
4. xsi16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Ilkeston, Derbyshire Posts: 469 374 bhp Supercharged 205 GTI, Passat Estate

   #4 17th April 2012, 16:30

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by philb121 Yeahh thats where i been looking and im unsure which cams would give more power/ performance, and i heard somewhere that GTi/VTS cams fit into c2 engines, and are smaller and give more power ??

   That depends on if you actually have a JP4S (C2 VTS) engine or just a normal JP4. J4 cams are better than JP4 cams but not better than the JP4S.
5. philb121 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Wrexham / North Wales Posts: 406 Saxo forte 1.1i

   #5 17th April 2012, 16:42

   mine is straight out of a VTS which i presume is a JP4S, Whats the JP4? VTR?? Cheers
6. xsi16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Ilkeston, Derbyshire Posts: 469 374 bhp Supercharged 205 GTI, Passat Estate

   #6 17th April 2012, 16:51

   If you saw it removed from the C2 VTS then its a JP4S. If not its probably just a normal JP4 which are fitted in C2's, C3's 206, 207 etc, all pug/cit 1.6 16v cars.
   
   Nearly everyone claims to have a 'C2 VTS conversion' or sells them as a ' C2 VTS engine' but 9 times out of 10 its just a JP4.
7. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

   #7 17th April 2012, 18:43

   Easiest way to tell is if you have a metal inlet manifold over the black plastic one.
8. xsi16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Ilkeston, Derbyshire Posts: 469 374 bhp Supercharged 205 GTI, Passat Estate

   #8 17th April 2012, 19:43

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by JoshB Easiest way to tell is if you have a metal inlet manifold over the black plastic one.

   Not really as they are always removed.