What injectors? help from the fueling gods.

1. ThrushMotorsport Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Aberdeen Posts: 1092 Turbo Saxo vtr, 2010 Octavia VRS TSI, mk3 Ibiza cu

   #1 11th May 2012, 16:29

   Hi guys, starting to order all the parts for a turbo build.
   
   Unsure on my injectors choice though, i was thinking pico 491cc/min from atspeed - but dunno if these will overfuel for what im looking at, or what..
   
   
   
   
   the spec i will be going is (some unessesaries to mention for the purpous of this thread in there..);
   
   DP manifold and downpipe
   GT25R From a ford focus RS
   front mount intercooler (6 core)
   obviously the piping.
   DP engineering de-comp plate ratio of 9:5:1
   bailys dv
   usual other bits.
   
   
   AND a 3-plug predator ECU, to manage it all.
   
   Looking to run MINimum 225bhp @the wheels.
   
   Thanks guys..
2. jones91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Posts: 2001 Jdm Dc2 Integra

   #2 11th May 2012, 18:55

   Is it a vtr or a vts?
3. e8_pqck Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2010 Midlands Posts: 2530 AX 16v Turbo

   #3 11th May 2012, 19:15

   Megane RS injectors. 165 quid from world of parts brand new. Fit direct into the vts rail, shower pattern and about 390cc or there abouts. Much better than the picos.
   
   Edited, they are 390cc, but awesome spray pattern.
4. ThrushMotorsport Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Aberdeen Posts: 1092 Turbo Saxo vtr, 2010 Octavia VRS TSI, mk3 Ibiza cu

   #4 11th May 2012, 19:51

   Jones its a VTS.
   
   E8 - is this what you run?
5. jones91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Posts: 2001 Jdm Dc2 Integra

   #5 11th May 2012, 20:13

   On my vts I'm running Clio sport injectors which also fit straight on. There 300cc so not as big as the megane sport injectors, but still capable of over 200bhp at 3bar and about 270bhp at 4bar, and I also picked all 4 of mine up for £40 2nd hand
6. e8_pqck Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2010 Midlands Posts: 2530 AX 16v Turbo

   #6 11th May 2012, 20:17

   I was going to use them, but I bought another car already complete and mapped with the picos. Many tuners use the megane ones though and are said to be very good.
   
   I fitted them though, and they were perfect
7. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

   #7 11th May 2012, 20:33

   I always thought Clio sport injectors were 220cc.
   
   I'd be using 490cc personally
8. jones91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Posts: 2001 Jdm Dc2 Integra

   #8 11th May 2012, 21:18

   People say different cc ratings between the Clio sport injectors ranging from 250cc - 330cc, but I'm know for a fact there good up to 210bhp at 3bar
   
   To the op, I would be going for the megane rs injectors if I was you, I would have gone for these too if I knew they were a straight fit at the time
9. ThrushMotorsport Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Aberdeen Posts: 1092 Turbo Saxo vtr, 2010 Octavia VRS TSI, mk3 Ibiza cu

   #9 11th May 2012, 21:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dannygti I always thought Clio sport injectors were 220cc. I'd be using 490cc personally

   The 490's are a good wad of cash, (£340 or so) Which dosent bother me.. but, its getting the bang for buck, because if im wanting to run anything over 280 bhp, i WILL Be forging my engine.
   
   Got shedloads of forged parts for ibiza cupra that i need to shift, that will get me my predator and shit lol.
   
   I will look at the megane injectors, are they definetly enough for the job?
10. ThrushMotorsport Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Aberdeen Posts: 1092 Turbo Saxo vtr, 2010 Octavia VRS TSI, mk3 Ibiza cu

    #10 11th May 2012, 21:35

    Sorry for double post...
    
    Is this the ones your on about? for the 225 r26?
    
    http://www.worldsaparts.co.uk/megane...injectors.html
11. jones91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Posts: 2001 Jdm Dc2 Integra

    #11 11th May 2012, 22:04

    My mate runs 440cc injectors on a 310bhp car at 3bar fpr, so 490cc should see 330-340bhp ok at the same pressure. as for the 390cc injectors, they should be ok for around 270bhp at 3bar
12. e8_pqck Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2010 Midlands Posts: 2530 AX 16v Turbo

    #12 11th May 2012, 22:14

    That's them, and will flow 450cc at 4 bar.
13. ThrushMotorsport Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Aberdeen Posts: 1092 Turbo Saxo vtr, 2010 Octavia VRS TSI, mk3 Ibiza cu

    #13 11th May 2012, 22:16

    Well... ive found a set of used ones for £80 ^_^ might just get them lol
14. Fish333 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Ashington Northumberland Posts: 129 Saxo mk2 vtr, cammed 4 branch etc

    #14 13th May 2012, 15:53

    this is a very good thread good info i was thinking about turboing a vts in the coming year
15. e8_pqck Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2010 Midlands Posts: 2530 AX 16v Turbo

    #15 13th May 2012, 16:00

    Why at people so defensive about money? 340 is a lot, damned if I'd spend that much for injectors. That's the good thing about popular cars like Saxo's, parts always come up for sale regularly.
16. ThrushMotorsport Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Aberdeen Posts: 1092 Turbo Saxo vtr, 2010 Octavia VRS TSI, mk3 Ibiza cu

    #16 13th May 2012, 19:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by e8_pqck Why at people so defensive about money? 340 is a lot, damned if I'd spend that much for injectors. That's the good thing about popular cars like Saxo's, parts always come up for sale regularly.

    well, i just bought them ones on ebay, was ment to get a focus mk1 RS turbo this afternoon, but i have now got another garret.. unsure what one it is, has a AR of 48 though, supposedly it came out a 2.0 saab but was used on a turbo conversion for a focus