vtr deconpression plate ebay??????;?

1. pteflint L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 blackhall Posts: 81 previously owned a silver saxo vtr mk1, now own as

   #1 29th May 2012, 18:20

   http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vie...216&cmd=VIDESC
   
   noticed these one ebay after searching for de comp plate. Cheaper than ferriday engineering but require gasket either side. Just wondering what people think.
2. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #2 29th May 2012, 19:07

   Shite
   
   Stay away, if you do want a decomp I got a Ferriday engineering one cheap
3. markj_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 West Sussex Posts: 134 VTS with minor mods (Rotrex C30-74 etc)

   #3 29th May 2012, 19:56

   They work fine, use a gasket between the plate and the block and a non-setting gasket sealant between the plate and the head (I used UNIVERSAL BLUE HYLOMAR GASKET SEALANT) make sure you line it up with a head gasket to check all the holes are present and correct as they miss one of the water jacket holes on mine.
4. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #4 29th May 2012, 20:14

   That's because they were designed around a specific type if gasket from the British head gasket company
   
   I know because I got him to make the first Saxo one, the quality is shite
5. jasonmayall Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.

   #5 29th May 2012, 20:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by markj_vtr They work fine, use a gasket between the plate and the block and a non-setting gasket sealant between the plate and the head (I used UNIVERSAL BLUE HYLOMAR GASKET SEALANT) make sure you line it up with a head gasket to check all the holes are present and correct as they miss one of the water jacket holes on mine.

   If they missed one f the water pockets, wouldn't that point t it being a bit shitty?
6. pteflint L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 blackhall Posts: 81 previously owned a silver saxo vtr mk1, now own as

   #6 29th May 2012, 20:22

   Was just looking about for bits for a saxo turbo vtr project in the not so distant future. Ferriday one sounds less chew to be honest. By the time you piss about buying more gaskets ect ect not worth it plus the holes that could be missing , I think ill pass thanks for the info guys
7. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #7 29th May 2012, 20:27

   those are made from stainless steel as well
   
   so the heat transfer will be massively reduced in comparison an aluminium (like a ferriday) or more expensive copper etc
   
   also with the alu one you have the added bonus that if your car does detonate it "may" just blow the decomp out instead of the pistons/rods/block..so will be an easier cheaper repair..not saying it will happen that way but it has alot greater chance then with an SS one lol
8. pteflint L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 blackhall Posts: 81 previously owned a silver saxo vtr mk1, now own as

   #8 29th May 2012, 20:33

   How likely is it to detonate lol
9. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #9 29th May 2012, 20:36

   depends on the compression ratio..boost level..inlet temps etc...
   
   and most important of all the mapping
   
   but if you do your home work and choose a good mapper it should be fine
10. pteflint L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 blackhall Posts: 81 previously owned a silver saxo vtr mk1, now own as

    #10 29th May 2012, 20:52

    Am thinking along the lines of mf2 5th injector and Sig com for management,
11. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #11 29th May 2012, 21:06

    tbh mate..it has been done
    
    and "can" work well
    
    but id really save up for some form of mappable ecu..your looking at £200 for the mf2 set up...if mapping it yourself (not reccomended but is possible if your confident and read up) youll need a wideband lambda set up..so thats another £80-£160
    
    you can pick up second hand predator for £350-400.. then youd just need mapping
    
    if you cant map the mf2 yourself your still gonna have to pay for mapping
    
    mf2 is pretty crude in the way it works..and can cause fuel starvation on cylinders because its not direct port injection
    
    it also doesnt have anything to control the ignition timing (more likely to detonate with no timing control)
    
    and theyre generally a pain in the arse to get in and running properly without issues
    
    the benefits of engine safety alone are worth going mappable ecu over mf2..but you also get better reliability..better fuel economy...better power as it will be fueling correct at any given rev range/boost etc etc