rallye inlet on a vtr

  1. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 wolverhampton Posts: 277 saxo vtr in silver uprated front end and full rem
    #1
    Hi
    Just got my hands on a rallye inlet manifold ready for the vtr but what sort of gains will I get from this until I have time to get the ph3 cam and a remap ???
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2010 England Posts: 3423
    #2
    Don't hold me to this, but iirc, the Rallye inlet will only work on a Mk1 VTR and even then, the throttle body needs modifying.
  3. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #3
    only fits blacktop heads correct
    and its the sensors/loom that makes it need modding for tps map sensor ect
    you could modify your loom or the inlet
  4. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 wolverhampton Posts: 277 saxo vtr in silver uprated front end and full rem
    #4
    Even if its the s1 I was told that the s1 inlet would fit the mk2 vtr
  5. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #5
    you were told wrong simply put fella unless you have a blacktop head in your car it wont fit
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by davo5784 View Post
    Hi
    Just got my hands on a rallye inlet manifold ready for the vtr but what sort of gains will I get from this until I have time to get the ph3 cam and a remap ???
    Will gain abit more of a induction roar.. Maybe a pony or 2 if you're lucky.
  7. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 wolverhampton Posts: 277 saxo vtr in silver uprated front end and full rem
    #7
    I have just had a look at my inlet and its 00-00 so it should fit and my car is the silver top mk2 but I will let you no when its on lol
  8. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #8
    Alex its you that's wrong im afraid

    Fits blacktop and 90bhp silver top, so it will fit an early mk2, does not fit 3plug 8vs, or single point injection 8vs


    Edit- gains will be unoticeable but will sound much better and look much better
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 Bradford/Leeds Posts: 775 03 R53 Mini Cooper S with a little extra going on
    #9
    see im curious on this too..... i have an 03 plate silvertop 3 plug ecu and when i was looking at my head its 00-00 not 0-0-0-0 is mine 90 or 98 version

    Bleedin French they make all so confusing.....
  10. Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 nr bognor regis ,west sussex Posts: 787 saxo 16v JP4
    #10
    wont fit the 98bhp silvertop as the port spacings are 0-0-0-0 but will the earlier mk2 engines (90bhp) as they are the same as blacktop 00--00 which is the inlet port spacings as the rallye inlet
  11. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    Alex its you that's wrong im afraid

    Fits blacktop and 90bhp silver top, so it will fit an early mk2, does not fit 3plug 8vs, or single point injection 8vs


    Edit- gains will be unoticeable but will sound much better and look much better
    im still new to all this 8v stuff haha
    thought all the mark 2s were one type of silvertop even if some had different looms
    didnt realise there were 2 silvertops wtf did citroen fuck about like that for the wankers lol!
  12. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #12
    Beilve it or not there's a stupid amount of 8v heads for the tu 8valve engines

    It's mad
  13. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #13
    im gunna just stick to 16v then fuck 8v lol

    time to rebuild my spare one for the vtr haha
  14. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #14
    If I wasn't going turbo I would have ditched the 8v a long time ago tbh
  15. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #15
    whats an extra few quid for a 16v to turbo though man
    manis cost the same inlets use a jp4 ect you could of done it for not much more than an 8v turbo lol!
  16. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 wolverhampton Posts: 277 saxo vtr in silver uprated front end and full rem
    #16
    Mine is a 02 plate 3 plug but the inlet seems to me like it's 0.0...0.0
  17. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #17
    It seems that way at first

    But when you break it down it's not,

    Even making a new mani yourself would be about £100-150, then an engine say £100 minimum, then gotta buy new injectors, £150+, top end rebuild is gonna cost about £250-300 when you factor in the belt kit, skim, water pump, stem & cam seals and new oil filter, and the two gaskets,

    Would need a new loom as well as paying someone to re plug it for my single plug Pred, so that means two looms as I'd need a single and a 3 plug

    It all adds up mate
  18. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #18
    no i meant at the start fella not like now i know at this point your too far to go back lol

    tbh im considering bolting a rotrex on my 8v so i cant exactly talk
  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #19
    Do it mate, you'll be surprised what they can do with boost

    At the start I couldn't afford vts insurance never mind vts turbo lol( I say that I just refused to pay what it was lol), was cheaper for me to build a turbo vtr, I bought the kit about 2.5 years ago once I decided I wanted to go turbo, just took a while to pull my finger out and get it all sorted, was meant to go in my green vtr lol

    It was also a lot cheaper to carry on 8v rather then switch before I built it

    Eg vtr engine £40, cambelt kit £40,
    Vts £100, cambelt kit £100 lol
    Vtr boost sized injectors, £80 new, vts £150+ new,
    Just daft stuff all adds up again
  20. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #20
    true man i guess

    main thing for me now is i can get a lot of the stuff id need through work and make what i cant get lol

    id still rather just finish my nana off though vtr was supposed to be cheap but a c30-74 is tempting me
  21. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #21
    Be ideal track slag
  22. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 wolverhampton Posts: 277 saxo vtr in silver uprated front end and full rem
    #22
    So would I be any better off power wise if I put the early mk2 head on my car with the inlet ???
  23. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #23
    But but if you have a 3 plug mk2 your rallye inlet won't fit your current head lol
  24. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #24
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by davo5784 View Post
    So would I be any better off power wise if I put the early mk2 head on my car with the inlet ???
    rallye head and j camshaft iirc is best for power using standard stuff
    not too sure on valve clearance on a silvertop bottom though but iirc from a few years ago when my mate was an 8v junkie its higher compression ratio when done

    allready shown how shit my 8v knowledge is though
  25. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 wolverhampton Posts: 277 saxo vtr in silver uprated front end and full rem
    #25
    I have been offered a s2 rallye head but will it fit my 3plug vtr block ???
  26. Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch
    #26
    so would this fit a single plug furio engine?
  27. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0
    #27
    It will only fit 00-00 heads.