Saxo Furio Turbo???

1. FuR10_AGY Newbie Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3 Citroen Saxo Furio 1.4

   #1 19th June 2012, 23:16

   Hi i have a saxo furio but i am currently looking to make it a turbo and woundering if it was possible and for how much? i have seen turbo manifolds for the furio so it must be possible but at a cost...
   
   if anyone knows how or where and how much please let me know as i NEED MORE POWER
   
   cheers
2. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #2 19th June 2012, 23:25

   How deep are your pockets?
3. Stefan_Wood Established Member Joined: Sep 2011 Birmingham Posts: 1557 Furio, 306Hdi, Astra 1.9cdti

   #3 19th June 2012, 23:33

   I wanted to do the same thing but VTS conversion 1k if done by garage with engine provided, Turbo kit around 2k if done with standard parts.
   Go for the conversion
4. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #4 20th June 2012, 18:28

   Sophia Bush has done this a few times. If you search for it there are quite a few threads on the projects. The cost of such a project really depends on how much you can do your self. People have turbo charged these for not a lot though often the end result is unreliable at best. I have seen it done for £300 ish but the words botch and crock of s@@t come to mind. Spend a bit more and you can make your self something rather nice. Go a bit further say £1500 and the right know how will get you a great little toy. You can spend way more depending how far you wish to go. If you need to pay some one to do it all though and you could spend many times this.
5. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #5 20th June 2012, 18:36

   buy this 400bhp engine for a measley £12k
   

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6. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

   #6 20th June 2012, 18:40

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jeffchiz buy this 400bhp engine for a measley £12k

   im going to start saving for that, will be good in my beast
7. BertieG Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 exeter, devon Posts: 1224 Clio 172

   #7 20th June 2012, 19:39

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jeffchiz buy this 400bhp engine for a measley £12k

   what are you getting for your £12k there? looks nice, but how can just the engine alone add up to £12k?
8. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #8 20th June 2012, 20:08

   i dont know all the ins and outs of whats included, but imagine how much worked is invovled in getting 400bhp+ out of a 1.6 engine, its not coming cheap, and you've got to remember the labour charge of fitting it and the warrenty thats included, were not talking about any old 16v engine with a low boost turbo bolted to it lol its cost me £3k to just add bodies, cams and a ecu to my car for 155 bhp lol
   
   theres alot of stuff included that you cant see there
9. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #9 20th June 2012, 20:37

   Easily justifiable IMO
   
   I'd bet there's some money in parts alone on that engine
10. BertieG Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 exeter, devon Posts: 1224 Clio 172

    #10 20th June 2012, 21:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffchiz i dont know all the ins and outs of whats included, but imagine how much worked is invovled in getting 400bhp+ out of a 1.6 engine, its not coming cheap, and you've got to remember the labour charge of fitting it and the warrenty thats included, were not talking about any old 16v engine with a low boost turbo bolted to it lol its cost me £3k to just add bodies, cams and a ecu to my car for 155 bhp lol theres alot of stuff included that you cant see there

    £3k? i did the same for just over £1k
11. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #11 20th June 2012, 21:30

    you got cams in fitted, ecu/map bodies for 1k?
12. BertieG Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 exeter, devon Posts: 1224 Clio 172

    #12 20th June 2012, 21:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 you got cams in fitted, ecu/map bodies for 1k?

    more like £1200 to be fair. £3k seems steep
13. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #13 20th June 2012, 21:38

    can do a good boost conversion on a furio for around 1.5-2k mapped up properly depending how neat you want it to look, 16v conversions ten a penny now could do one for about 5-600 ish after getting a few service items done and extras could prob buy a whole car for that have what you want sell bits off it and make most money back
14. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #14 20th June 2012, 21:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BertieG more like £1200 to be fair. £3k seems steep

    depends on too many things though eg parts used..labour if any..and new or used parts
    
    jeffchizz is running jenvey's which are probs the most pricey off all the bodies fitted..new set would pretty much wipe all you spent out lol
    
    its all relative really
15. BertieG Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 exeter, devon Posts: 1224 Clio 172

    #15 20th June 2012, 21:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 depends on too many things though eg parts used..labour if any..and new or used parts jeffchizz is running jenvey's which are probs the most pricey off all the bodies fitted..new set would pretty much wipe all you spent out lol its all relative really

    yeah thats a fair point. i was trying to be as cheap as possible whilst still doing a decent job, going for new jenveys would have blown my budget completely
16. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #16 20th June 2012, 21:46

    good crack on getting it done that cheap though
17. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #17 20th June 2012, 21:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BertieG more like £1200 to be fair. £3k seems steep

    Finger slippage meant £2k lol just added it up I think its cost me £2500 which included jenvey bodies, 708s, preadator ecu, mapping, headgasket and cambelt kit, head skim, 421, ss pipe, piper back box and some labour for sorting some problems out
    
    And then fitted gti brakes polybushed the front end and harder engine mounts and wish bone mounts so probs near on 3k with everything included to make use of the extra power
    
    My budget would have been blown If I paid full price for the jenveys aswell lol
18. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #18 21st June 2012, 12:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffchiz i dont know all the ins and outs of whats included, but imagine how much worked is invovled in getting 400bhp+ out of a 1.6 engine, its not coming cheap, and you've got to remember the labour charge of fitting it and the warrenty thats included, were not talking about any old 16v engine with a low boost turbo bolted to it lol its cost me £3k to just add bodies, cams and a ecu to my car for 155 bhp lol theres alot of stuff included that you cant see there

    £12k is a ripoff for that engine imo.
    
    PS - 400hp on the standard inlet? good luck with that...

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19. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

    #19 21st June 2012, 13:32

    people spend alot of stupid money on making power, you have to ask, is it the saxo you want, or is it the speed you want. for example, you have a 1.4, if you want it to go well, strip it out and put either a vtr lump in it or a vts. it will cost you a few hundred quid and it will go pretty well.
    if you want to go faster, i wouldnt recommend spending buckets on a car designed to be cheap and nippy when £2000 buys you a fairly decent subaru impreza or 200sx that will have just shy of 280bhp with simple breathing mods.
    If you really love your saxo, to make it go quick is easy enough, but to make it be a competition worth street legal racing car will cost you and i wouldnt bother going anywhere with the 1.4 lump
20. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #20 21st June 2012, 13:43

    To counter that Matt, £2000 might be the price for the subaru, but it's also the insurance renewal for most reading this thread...
    
    I do totally see your point but spend £2000 on your existing saxo and you can transform it into a GREAT little fast car - one that will out handle the subaru and be more fun!

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21. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #21 21st June 2012, 13:51

    I have seen 200bhp saxos run rings round cars with much more power on the track. Its not all about power. On the old sprint racing I often seen 1.4 AXs and 205s show up 2ltr and even 2ltr turbo cards

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22. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #22 21st June 2012, 14:58

    My vtr turbo costs under 1k to insure all in, and despite the turbo still returns good mpg when driven sensibly,
    
    A Subaru needs to have 340+ (only known have beaten scoobs and evos with about 320, could have raced more powerfull ones but I don't know), which even when driven sensible would get shit mpg
    
    Then you got the tax and insurance before you even think of modding
    
    I know what I'd rather drive with cost of living these days lol

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23. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #23 21st June 2012, 15:00

    blackie, i'll not rub your nose in in by saying my 106 costs £360 to insure, all in then.
    
    Oh wait...

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24. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #24 21st June 2012, 15:03

    Yeah but I'm only 23 . Six points never helped mind lol
    
    I will say now I'm down to 3 points my renewal is weighing in about £850 (due next month) gonna try get it down a bit more if I can but I can see it haha
    
    For reference a standard impreza wrx would be about £1800
    
    Gti turbo with same spec as mine about £1300 last time I checked
25. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #25 21st June 2012, 15:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 Yeah but I'm only 23 . Six points never helped mind lol I will say now I'm down to 3 points my renewal is weighing in about £850 (due next month) gonna try get it down a bit more if I can but I can see it haha For reference a standard impreza wrx would be about £1800 Gti turbo with same spec as mine about £1300 last time I checked

    see i'm as old as mount fuji... which helps! 6 points here also tho. Speeding, would you believe it...
    
    /
26. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #26 21st June 2012, 15:15

    I had three when I passed for speeding when they were a year from expiring I got another 3 for speeding, others expired
    
    Got another 3 for parking last year but the speeding points expired last month
    
    The parking one s make little diff to quotes on some and no diff on most others
27. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #27 21st June 2012, 19:26

    ah sweet cheaper insurance than ross here but obviously not as high spec or worth lol
28. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #28 21st June 2012, 19:46

    im just happy mines gone down tbf
    
    id hat e to have to pay what some do these days