raising the rev limit? who? what? where?

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 worcester Posts: 703 peugeot 106 VTR
    #1
    hi this weekend i competed in my 1st ever hillclimb race and altho i did well id like to do better my main grumble is that my car dosnt rev high enough and i would like to hold out the gears longer.
    so ive decided the easiest way of doing this is to just raise the rev limit, but who can do it?
    whats the highest you can safely go?
    and what are the costs?

    the cars a 106 with a 2002 vtr engine 3 plug ecu

    thanks

    azza
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.
    #2
    What gearbox you using?
  3. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #3
    If you drive the same hillclimb all the time you might be able to work out that you could get a much shorter gearbox, so that you are in the next gear up but in the power range and with more revs to go, rather than extending the rev limit and driving a long geared box and then being past the power band high up on the revs.

    ChipWizards can do stuff with triple plugs anyway.
  4. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 worcester Posts: 703 peugeot 106 VTR
    #4
    its just a 1.1 box but it just feels like im on the limit to close to every corner to go up to third as it would mean changing up to change back down again and thats all time off the throttle. its not so much for long streights but as its short bursts there was to much room to hit the limit in 2nd but not enough room to go into 3rd if you get me.
    just feels like if i had a extra 500-750rpm more i could save alot of time and be on the throttle more
  5. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #5
    I get you. Chipwizards used to be the only place that could remap a triple plug ECU.

    If you contact those random, remap places they might be able to just extend the rev limit, but if not then chipwizards can for sure
  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #6
    Juan Sheet
  7. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 worcester Posts: 703 peugeot 106 VTR
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mochachino View Post
    I get you. Chipwizards used to be the only place that could remap a triple plug ECU.

    If you contact those random, remap places they might be able to just extend the rev limit, but if not then chipwizards can for sure
    cheers mate ill fire off some emails
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    Juan Sheet
    does the job of three ordinary towels?
  8. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #8
    Wouldn't reccomend raising the limit without at least changing the valve springs, the newer engines had shit springs.. I fell foul of that when my car dropped a valve.. I was on standard rev limit as well

    Why not fit a black top head? They don't mind revving higher, better springs and no roller rockers
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 worcester Posts: 703 peugeot 106 VTR
    #9
    i have blacktop springs in already from a citroen zx engine
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #10
    Should be ok then mate
  11. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 worcester Posts: 703 peugeot 106 VTR
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    Should be ok then mate
    should be haha
    id like to go omex soon and map in my cams, breather mods and raise the rev limit which should add a bit of extra grunt. but we'll see
  12. Established Member Joined: Jul 2011 Wolverhampton Posts: 1573 Honda Civic Type-R EP3
    #12
    Depending on the cost of raising the limit I reckon your money could possibly be better spent fitting an s1 rallye box perhaps? They're really short geared so you'd be in 3rd but in the right bit of the power. I find VTRs already hate being revved never mind further lol.
  13. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 worcester Posts: 703 peugeot 106 VTR
    #13
    true enough mate but MA boxes are weak as foook so id rather replace a 1.1 box a few times at £40 a go rather than replacing rallye boxes at £200 a go haha atleast the rev limit should be fairly reliable and keep costs down in the future
  14. Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Posts: 1424 Suzuki Swift SZ3 2003 Posi Blue VTS
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carl-h View Post
    Depending on the cost of raising the limit I reckon your money could possibly be better spent fitting an s1 rallye box perhaps? They're really short geared so you'd be in 3rd but in the right bit of the power. I find VTRs already hate being revved never mind further lol.
    +1, past 5.5k they start really screaming
  15. Established Member Joined: Jun 2010 Cardiff Posts: 1095 Saxo Vts x2 Audi TDI a fair few others.
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    Juan Sheet
    Haha thats tickled me, great reply.
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #16
    cant you fit an s2 rallye ecu and loom? engines are similar and you'll get a higher rev limit as standard using that ecu. plus its going into a 106 so hopefully no loom problems I'd guess
  17. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AzzAW93 View Post
    should be haha
    id like to go omex soon and map in my cams, breather mods and raise the rev limit which should add a bit of extra grunt. but we'll see
    in that case, you might aswell have it sorted it when you map your cams?
  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 127.0.0.1 Posts: 4826 oem+ sax
    #18
    Cam can raise the limit to 7.8k.