can you put an oil catch tank on a 1.1 engine ?

1. connor_wearing Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 146 Saxo vtr Saxo custom show car ;)

   #1 10th July 2012, 17:39

   was considering putting an oil catch tank on my 1.1 but been told by one of my mates that it is impossible to do so ? just wondering if anyone has done it or seen this done ?
2. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

   #2 10th July 2012, 17:49

   Your friend is a retard...
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   #3 10th July 2012, 18:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by MiniGibbo Your friend is a retard...

   Sorry about him hes not very diplomatic....
   
   Your friend is a fucking retard...
   
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4. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #4 10th July 2012, 18:19

   It can be done thought there is no real point.
5. CrouchyM Frequent Poster Joined: May 2011 Colchester Posts: 513 NHB Facelift EP3

   #5 10th July 2012, 18:30

   Your engine uses oil, so yes. Its not hard to do but its pointless.
6. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #6 10th July 2012, 18:32

   i fitted one, only becuase my piston rings are on there way out so all the oil gets pushed out and needs soem where to go lol
7. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #7 10th July 2012, 18:39

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by connor_wearing was considering putting an oil catch tank on my 1.1 but been told by one of my mates that it is impossible to do so ? just wondering if anyone has done it or seen this done ?

   You can indeed but it`ll just be for show & you`ll see no real benefits mate.
8. manic Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 hemel Hempstead Posts: 413 l200 worrior saxo vtr stock hatch Seat leon 20v

   #8 10th July 2012, 19:09

   Your mate must lick windows. does the short bus pick him up in the mornings
   
   manic
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   #9 10th July 2012, 19:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by manic Your mate must lick windows. does the short bus pick him up in the mornings manic

   only 10 more posts!
10. MickyWelsh172 Established Member Joined: May 2010 Sunderland Posts: 1966 Clio Sport 172

    #10 10th July 2012, 19:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jayline only 10 more posts!

    10 more posts for what? He's a premium member anyway...

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11. yellow160 L-plater Joined: Jun 2012 Sandwick, shetland Posts: 90 Saxo VTR Mk2, MR2 G Limited Rev 3

    #11 10th July 2012, 20:57

    i was thinking of putting one in my vtr... nothing wrong with car but for my local car show its all about the shiny bits haha!
    
    are they easy enuff to fit?
12. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #12 10th July 2012, 21:32

    Why is every one saying that there no real benefit's?
    
    Any oil and water vapour/condensation that is collected buy it was going to go into your engine so to me that is a benefit on its own. Especially on a car that isn't driven a lot so stops condensation build up in the rocker cover ect.
    
    Seems to me not may people actually know what catch tanks are for.
    
    Ps. most Ebay ones don't work because there is noting inside them for the oil/water to condensate on.
13. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #13 10th July 2012, 23:59

    ebay ones are crap, i have one but it serves a purpose, its going in the bin though as soon as my new bottom end is built up
    
    you can modify the ebay ones to work ok with some mesh and a hose
14. connor_wearing Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 146 Saxo vtr Saxo custom show car ;)

    #14 11th July 2012, 21:37

    ok, so im guessing it can be done :L he told me it couldnt be done as it was 1.1 so this leads to the next question of fitment ?
15. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #15 11th July 2012, 21:59

    an oil catch tank can be fitted to any saxo/engine with oil breathers, stab int eh dark here but guessing you connect it to the rocker cover breather so the oily air doesnt go back in to the inlet
16. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

    #16 11th July 2012, 22:03

    Catch tank is a catch tank...
    
    All you need is a hose pipe and a can.
17. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #17 11th July 2012, 22:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MiniGibbo Catch tank is a catch tank... All you need is a hose pipe and a can.

    thats in reality all the cheap ebay ones are, the more expensive ones have material inside to conendse the oily air in to oil and air, the oil stays in the tank and the air comes out the out let usually via a breather filter
    
    the cheap ebay one i have is as much use as a coke can lol the oily air goes in to the empty tank, has no where to condense so the oily air comes back out and covers the bottom of the bonnet in oil lol
18. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #18 11th July 2012, 23:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bedford126 Any oil and water vapour/condensation that is collected buy it was going to go into your engine so to me that is a benefit on its own. Especially on a car that isn't driven a lot so stops condensation build up in the rocker cover ect. Seems to me not may people actually know what catch tanks are for.

    I think you have got your self confused. A engine with a normal wet sump like the Saxo runs in positive pressure in the crank case. The gasses in a standard engine are vented out in to the inlet and burnt off in the engine.
    
    With highly tuned engines you get much higher pressure within the engine crank case and in so the system of simply burning off these gasses is not so desirable. So you can use a catch tank to separate much of the oil/fuel vapors before the gasses are burn in the engine.
    
    Some race cars vent to the atmosphere and do not burnt in the engine. Often in these situations the catch tank is simply used to catch the oil/fuel from the gasses before it makes it way on to the track.
19. connor_wearing Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 146 Saxo vtr Saxo custom show car ;)

    #19 12th July 2012, 21:37

    So where would the catch tank hose run from, from the rocker cover where the breather pipe usually sits ?
20. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

    #20 12th July 2012, 21:42

    I put some *scourer's in my mocal one and its down the trick, the second hose that would normally breath is capped off though..
21. connor_wearing Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 146 Saxo vtr Saxo custom show car ;)

    #21 12th July 2012, 22:08

    have you got a pic mate ?
22. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

    #22 13th July 2012, 08:30

    Loads in my journal dude.
23. connor_wearing Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 146 Saxo vtr Saxo custom show car ;)

    #23 16th July 2012, 18:53

    ill have to have a look