Thinking of getting my VTR cammed.

1. elkoi Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Staffordshire Posts: 510 Red mk1 Vtr

   #1 10th August 2012, 14:03

   Hello, im wanting to get my VTR cammed, here is my list so far;
   
   Newmans PH3 Fast road cams
   POWERFLEX BUSHES BUSH KIT CITROEN SAXO + VTR
   Citroen Saxo Phase 1 Bilstein Rear B8 Sprint Damper B36-2075 x2
   Citroen Saxo Phase 1 Bilstein Front B8 Sprint Damper Insert P30-3059 x2
   Citroen saxo phase 1 Spax 40mm springs
   OMP FRONT UPPER RED STRUT BRACE CITROEN SAXO 1.6 8v VTR
   Quickshift Gearstick And Surround
   OMP 6 Point Bolt In Rollcage
   Cobra bucket seats
   OMP 3" harness's
   OMP steering wheel
   
   About getting my car cammed,
   I understand i need the Newmans PH3 Fast road cams, is there anything else i need to get?
   Is it right that i buy the cams, take them to a professional garrage & get them to install them & remap the car, is that all? Thank you.
   
   
   Also does this sound about right;
   
   Citroen Saxo Phase 1 Bilstein Front B8 Sprint Damper Insert P30-3059 - x2 - £223
   Citroen Saxo Phase 1 VTR Bilstein Rear B8 Sprint Damper B36-2075 - x2 - £176
   POWERFLEX BUSHES BUSH KIT CITROEN SAXO + VTR VTS FURIO - £128
2. AzzAW93 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 worcester Posts: 703 peugeot 106 VTR

   #2 10th August 2012, 14:06

   i have a catcam 4901202 in mine and its fan for over a year without a map fine with reasonable gains. but a remap is on the cards very soon.
   also if your buying all that kit and having a pro fit it, get a vernier pully and get that dialed in perfect for maximum benefit
3. slimwiltaz Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 co durham Posts: 1150 cammed saxo vts(not any more) leon cupra

   #3 10th August 2012, 14:35

   well when i got my vts cammed i changed the cambelt and water pump to and it will run fine untill you get a map, but you don't see full potential without a map. you might need a cam seal to
4. AzzAW93 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 worcester Posts: 703 peugeot 106 VTR

   #4 10th August 2012, 14:48

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by slimwiltaz well when i got my vts cammed i changed the cambelt and water pump to and it will run fine untill you get a map, but you don't see full potential without a map. you might need a cam seal to

   true for the price and peace of mind get the cam and aux belt changed aswell as the water pump done

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5. elkoi Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Staffordshire Posts: 510 Red mk1 Vtr

   #5 10th August 2012, 18:18

   Ok thanks (Y)
6. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #6 10th August 2012, 18:28

   youll need a head gasket set as well..as the head needs to come off to fit the cam
   
   imo its a waste of time camming a vtr..i cammed mine, lots of money for very little difference
7. slimwiltaz Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 co durham Posts: 1150 cammed saxo vts(not any more) leon cupra

   #7 10th August 2012, 18:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 youll need a head gasket set as well..as the head needs to come off to fit the cam imo its a waste of time camming a vtr..i cammed mine, lots of money for very little difference

   did you get a good dyno run when you cammed yours? did you get an accurate figure? curious to what the run cammed
8. elkoi Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Staffordshire Posts: 510 Red mk1 Vtr

   #8 10th August 2012, 18:36

   So its a waste of time? how can i get more power out of my Vtr then without turboing it.
9. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #9 10th August 2012, 18:58

   Never got round to getting it mapped mate
   
   You'd be very lucky to see a genuine 130bhp from a healthy cammed and mapped vtr
10. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #10 10th August 2012, 18:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elkoi So its a waste of time? how can i get more power out of my Vtr then without turboing it.

    Only way to get fecent power is turbo really, be better off spending the £300-400 on a cammed vts conversion
11. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #11 10th August 2012, 19:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elkoi So its a waste of time? how can i get more power out of my Vtr then without turboing it.

    not being funny if you want decent power and you dont want to go boost then i would give up and not do anything to it, to get good power it costs a lot of money end of, as said spend £300 on a vts conversion imo that is the only thing you can do to any 8v saxos to get fairly good power cheap, as that isnt 'engine tuning' hence why its cheap
12. elkoi Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Staffordshire Posts: 510 Red mk1 Vtr

    #12 10th August 2012, 20:01

    So a turbo is the way forward?
13. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #13 10th August 2012, 20:07

    yes
    
    but it dont come cheap mate
14. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #14 10th August 2012, 20:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elkoi So a turbo is the way forward?

    if you want good power out of an 8v yes
    
    if you want good power cheap then no
    
    all depends if your one of these 8v faggots (blackie and think they are somehow better than a 16v if you arent one of these siad people do an engine conversion, doing engine swaps is piss easy compared to tuning an engine, conversions put a lot of people off as they think its a huge job, but its simply dissconnect everything pull out, put new one in and conenct it all back up again, its just all hoses, clips and pipes easyyy

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15. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

    #15 10th August 2012, 20:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffchiz if you want good power out of an 8v yes if you want good power cheap then no all depends if your one of these 8v faggots (blackie and think they are somehow better than a 16v if you arent one of these siad people do an engine conversion, doing engine swaps is piss easy compared to tuning an engine, conversions put a lot of people off as they think its a huge job, but its simply dissconnect everything pull out, put new one in and conenct it all back up again, its just all hoses, clips and pipes easyyy

    Theres no need to be nasty to me!!
16. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #16 10th August 2012, 20:17

    see the white writing
17. elkoi Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Staffordshire Posts: 510 Red mk1 Vtr

    #17 10th August 2012, 22:29

    Going for the turbo ;]