1.6 inlet on 1.4

1. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

   #1 18th August 2012, 16:46

   Sorry this has probably been covered but every time i try and search for an answer i get a host server error so i'm having to ask again. Just need to confirm that a inlet mani from a mk1 vtr/s will fit on a mk1 1.4 correct? cheers chris
2. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #2 18th August 2012, 19:10

   I can confirm.
   
   No, it wont.
3. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

   #3 18th August 2012, 19:18

   What none at all? Just there's a couple I've seen for sale that say "upgrade for 1.4" this bs??
4. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #4 18th August 2012, 19:25

   iirc, the vtr inlet will fit certain 1.4's - (pre 2001 perhaps?). The VTS inlet will fit the 16v engines only. I'm not down enough with my 8v's to be 100% on the vtr/1.4/1/1 thing. Blackie would be a good person to ask
5. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

   #5 18th August 2012, 19:37

   Okay cheers for the help any whoooo
6. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #6 18th August 2012, 20:29

   samueljonburgess fitted a vtr inlet to his furio, iirc if you have a single plug 1.4 then get an inlet from a single plug vtr or if you have a three plug 1.4 get a three plug vtr inlet, as the port spacing is different
7. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #7 18th August 2012, 20:37

   post 58
   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...=280977&page=3
8. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

   #8 18th August 2012, 20:47

   Well that's what I thought personally first.. Cheers for the link bud
9. SunderZ Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 1064 Vts turbo, 1.1 dsire, Pug 207.

   #9 19th August 2012, 01:44

   if you have the right model the S1 ally inlet will fit i think.
10. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #10 19th August 2012, 10:18

    Whats the difference between a rallye and vtr inlet?
11. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #11 19th August 2012, 10:20

    i think the rallye inlet lets more air threw due to it being a bigger size! can pick them up for around 100 posted!
12. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #12 19th August 2012, 10:48

    I'll look into it, bigger the better haha

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13. W343NNA Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 770

    #13 19th August 2012, 11:35

    dont go for the rallye inlet on the 1.4 iv got two w reg furios one with a rallye inlet and one with the vtr inlet and the rally inlet bogs the 1.4 engine say your on motorway or just anyware tryna go fast if you put your foot fully down you go fast but if you gradually put it down say open thrttole half way its faster than opening it wide lol.. the vtrs been much better for me i stuck vtr injectors in there to nice upgrade, i would assume a rallye inlet would run better after a re map or somthing but it lets to much in for the 1.4 to handle but i never changed my fuel injectors on my furio with the rallye inlet
14. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #14 19th August 2012, 11:40

    Well after looking into that did cross my mind, the amount of air my ecu would think is going through wouldn't be right. Might just stick with a vtr one, also are vtr injectors a straight swap too? ? Did think of doing the same too. . .
15. SAX-FURIO1986 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 mirfield Posts: 198 Mk2 Posi Furio, vectra sri x2, mk1 mango westie

    #15 19th August 2012, 12:18

    after reading this topic i am very much interested in doing this with my furio 3 plug, what would i need to run it properly?
    
    vtr inlet 3 plug is that it ?
16. W343NNA Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 770

    #16 19th August 2012, 12:37

    just need the inlet i would recomend injectors and throttle body and all sensors. all pretty much plug and play
    
    Injectors are straight fit,

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17. SAX-FURIO1986 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 mirfield Posts: 198 Mk2 Posi Furio, vectra sri x2, mk1 mango westie

    #17 19th August 2012, 12:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by W343NNA just need the inlet i would recomend injectors and throttle body and all sensors. all pretty much plug and play Injectors are straight fit,

    as easy as that?
    i was reading a post where someone did this and i revved its "dogs ......" off?
18. W343NNA Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 770

    #18 19th August 2012, 12:58

    urgh yeah shit forgot about idle controll valve, urm first start somtimes does this but if you buy the inlet complete you should have issue, i forgot
    
    Theres a pipe that comes from the idle controll valve, this needs to be plumbed into your induction kit or air filter or it some times messes with the idle, you wont miss it its a huge rubber pipe runs from drivers side of inlet to passenger side just simply put it into your inlet elbo or induction pipe or what ever set up your running, also if you turn the key all the way to last click before starting do it about 3 times i recall it resets the idle controll valve sorting the issue also, cheers for reminding me of that!

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19. user_52446 Established Member Joined: May 2011 Norwich Posts: 1430 Forteee & Furiooooo

    #19 19th August 2012, 14:25

    I've done this to my 1.4 easy enough
20. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #20 19th August 2012, 14:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iFurio I've done this to my 1.4 easy enough

    You running vtr injectors too mate? trying to figure out if its worth bothering with
21. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

    #21 19th August 2012, 15:14

    I have also done this, definitely worth it. More air more bang more go ha.
    
    I have a mk1 vtr inlet for sale if you need.
22. user_52446 Established Member Joined: May 2011 Norwich Posts: 1430 Forteee & Furiooooo

    #22 19th August 2012, 15:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christoph You running vtr injectors too mate? trying to figure out if its worth bothering with

    well I got injectors and that with my inlet but didnt put them on as I searched and found that it could cause over feuling and bore wash? whatever that means so yeah I didnt use them
23. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #23 19th August 2012, 17:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mlawlan69 I have also done this, definitely worth it. More air more bang more go ha. I have a mk1 vtr inlet for sale if you need.

    Exactly my reasoning chap
    
    I'll get back to you, just i'm bidding on one on ebay atm, out of curiosity how much would you be looking for?
    
    EDIT: He just accepted my offer so have an inlet on the way, cheers anyway chap
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iFurio well I got injectors and that with my inlet but didnt put them on as I searched and found that it could cause over feuling and bore wash? whatever that means so yeah I didnt use them

    Well i did worry about that, but i'll be caming it as well so i'll be remapping my ecu so i'm hoping i can work round the over fueling problem that may arise! All just theory at the moment though, still looking around.
24. user_52446 Established Member Joined: May 2011 Norwich Posts: 1430 Forteee & Furiooooo

    #24 19th August 2012, 18:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christoph Well i did worry about that, but i'll be caming it as well so i'll be remapping my ecu so i'm hoping i can work round the over fueling problem that may arise! All just theory at the moment though, still looking around.

    Ahh okay yeah it says on the post that will be okay if remap ect.
    
    But yeah tbh I noticed the slight bit of difference but imo not enough to go through all the hassell of installing the inlet.

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25. W343NNA Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 770

    #25 19th August 2012, 18:48

    iv been running the r inlet and injectors for over a year no issues engine still runs sweet so totally up to you!
26. SAX-FURIO1986 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 mirfield Posts: 198 Mk2 Posi Furio, vectra sri x2, mk1 mango westie

    #26 19th August 2012, 18:52

    So my fello furio owners can ya tell the difference with Vtr inlet on ?
27. user_52446 Established Member Joined: May 2011 Norwich Posts: 1430 Forteee & Furiooooo

    #27 19th August 2012, 19:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SAX-FURIO1986 So my fello furio owners can ya tell the difference with Vtr inlet on ?

    Read previous posts...
    
    A little, not huge
28. user_31231 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Derby Posts: 1153 VW Passat 1.9tdi 150

    #28 19th August 2012, 19:24

    i have fitted rallyie inlet and used a oil breather filter on the icv and made a plate to mount the maf sensor now idles like it has standard inlet
29. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #29 19th August 2012, 20:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iFurio Ahh okay yeah it says on the post that will be okay if remap ect. But yeah tbh I noticed the slight bit of difference but imo not enough to go through all the hassell of installing the inlet.

    I know but its more for something to do than anything tbh with ya! With a little bonus in it so win win!
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Luke-saxo i have fitted rallyie inlet and used a oil breather filter on the icv and made a plate to mount the maf sensor now idles like it has standard inlet

    May need some more info on your genius solution at some point mate haha, so if you get a message from me, thats what its about
30. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #30 4th September 2012, 12:18

    sorry to bump this up again, but is there any difference between the normal saxo 8v 1.4 compared to a 8v 1.4 quicksilver pug? ? They look the same and i've tried to search for the specs on the two with little success! any help?
31. logic_guy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2010 England Posts: 3423

    #31 4th September 2012, 12:26

    Both 1.4's are the same.
32. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #32 4th September 2012, 12:38

    righto cheers pal
33. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #33 4th September 2012, 16:13

    hey dude, have you considered running a set of rallye injectors and inlet+throttle body?
34. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #34 4th September 2012, 16:23

    I reckon you'd get overfuelling like crazy. I had to put in a lower rated FPR to drop mine down a bit and thats on a vtr setup with full s2 rallye engine
35. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #35 4th September 2012, 16:36

    Rallye injectors are fatter as well iirc
36. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #36 4th September 2012, 16:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jayline hey dude, have you considered running a set of rallye injectors and inlet+throttle body?

    I did, but i got told it would overfuel like mad. But however i was planning on remapping it when i get cams, also with a 421 with a different exhaust. So i might stick to my standard one for now. . then get a larger inlet when i've got everything together ready to go on and do it all at once. Not sure when or how much that would be exactly!
37. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #37 4th September 2012, 16:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christoph I did, but i got told it would overfuel like mad. But however i was planning on remapping it when i get cams, also with a 421 with a different exhaust. So i might stick to my standard one for now. . then get a larger inlet when i've got everything together ready to go on and do it all at once. Not sure when or how much that would be exactly!

    well i have a s2 inlet, loom and unlocked ecu and got a few s1 injectors and fuel rail so pm me if you want any!
38. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #38 4th September 2012, 17:00

    Got a loom already, how much for the ecu for now?
39. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #39 4th September 2012, 17:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christoph Got a loom already, how much for the ecu for now?

    40 collected?
40. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #40 4th September 2012, 17:24

    where exactly you based mate? you have told me before just forgot lol
41. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #41 4th September 2012, 17:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christoph where exactly you based mate? you have told me before just forgot lol

    barnet, north london
42. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #42 4th September 2012, 17:36

    okay mate, i'll let you know friday if thats alright? You 100% sure its unlocked and will work with my 1.4 yeah? ?
43. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #43 4th September 2012, 17:38

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    Originally Posted by christoph okay mate, i'll let you know friday if thats alright? You 100% sure its unlocked and will work with my 1.4 yeah? ?

    well i think you might need my loom and inlet though! hence why i got the full setup! can do you a good deal for the lot and ill help fit it if needed?
44. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #44 4th September 2012, 17:45

    what loom and inlet is it? would rather not get another loom as i've already got one you know :/
45. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #45 4th September 2012, 17:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christoph what loom and inlet is it? would rather not get another loom as i've already got one you know :/

    its an s2 rallye setup i have for a single plug! also was your car a spi engine before hand as i can supply you a fuel rail that takes the 2 fuel lines you have?
46. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

    #46 4th September 2012, 18:05

    tell you what i'll pm you friday. . my wages differ week to week so i'll let you know! cheer s