diesel tuning..

  1. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #1
    hey guys,

    ok so after chopping and changing my mind on the "what car next" dilema i have made up my mind.

    not going to give much away but as the thread title suggests its a diesel (Mpg ftw!)

    2.0 8v TD 111bhp - 192 lb-ft standard.

    now ive never had a diesel before so have no idea what you can or cant do to tune them.

    heard of remaping/tuning boxs etc but thats about it.

    would anyone care to shed some light on this please?

    can you add bigger intercoolers, turbos, cams etc etc al that stuff, im a total noob!

    thanks guys :-)
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz
    #2
    There gets a point, where tuning outweighs the MPG advantage...

    A lad on pug306.net a few years back, had a 306HDi, which is 90bhp standard.. Put a slightly bigger turbo on, FMIC, and had it mapped, and made 150-160bhp, with 40-50mpg easily done..

    Id say if you dont want to spend a fortune, get a FMIC, can build it yourself, buying piping, and an intercooler of any scrappy car that runs one.. Then have it mapped, sure you would see 30-40% power gain
  3. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #3
    bigger turbo and i/c etc..but without knowing the car..its hard to know what you can do in temrs of ecu..and how much more power they can take

    im thinking its an mg or some form of vauxhall
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz
    #4
    Defo not french, unless he added money to what he sold the last car for.. As cars in the last cars price range, are all the HDi units, that run 90bhp..
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2007 North-east - Washington Posts: 7311 Clio 182, Fireblade GSX-R 750
    #5
    dont say its a mg zr... im quite sure it will be
  6. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #6
    http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...ck-2001/24480/

    Mgzr 2.0 td

    01-05
  7. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smiith View Post
    Defo not french, unless he added money to what he sold the last car for.. As cars in the last cars price range, are all the HDi units, that run 90bhp..
    Hdi's run 110 in the pug 406... (dmf fuckers 90's dont)
  8. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #8
    clio dci IMO.
  9. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #9
    no pretty sure itll be the mg as i know he likes them
  10. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #10
    It is look at the spec... 260nm is 192lb ft
  11. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by greyjasper51 View Post
    Hdi's run 110 in the pug 406... (dmf fuckers 90's dont)
    can you get one for what you can sell a 206 gti for?
  12. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #12
    110 406 hdi... Yeah... But its not that its an mgzr...

    Pick 406's up for 5-600 quid now...
    Moon milage mind but still...
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #13
    why assume there wouldnt be money going in?

    no one mentioned there not to be.....
  14. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #14
    You know what it is...

    And im right... Mgzr... Only 4th time of saying...
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #15
    you are close..

    already a zr in the houshold though..
  16. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #16
    mgzt
  17. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    why assume there wouldnt be money going in?

    no one mentioned there not to be.....
    I never, i went on the basis, if it was french, that he would have had to put money in to get something newer, but if he hadn't, it couldnt be a newer frenchy derv

    We know what it is now, so not to worry
  18. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 West Sussex Posts: 7566 CLS63 AMG
    #18
    Turbo Diesel engines are easy enough to remap, but on a standard car you'll often find the clutch soon starts to complain because of the torque increase.

    And yes you can do many of the same mods such as fmic, intake, headers etc etc.
  19. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prickle View Post
    clio dci IMO.
    GTFO! as if lol
  20. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smiith View Post
    We know what it is now, so not to worry
    do we?

    no one has got it yet as far as i can see..
  21. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #21
    Not a rover 45?!
  22. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #22
    Rover mg zr... zs
  23. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #23
    yeah buddy.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GTI_89 View Post
    GTFO! as if lol

    Is it vag? mk4 golf in the common colour of. Silvahh.
  24. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #24
    Grande vitara...

    320d touring...
  25. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prickle View Post
    yeah buddy.




    Is it vag? mk4 golf in the common colour of. Silvahh.
    Iirc there 1.9 and 110bhp
  26. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #26
    i was thinking the vw engine tbh..but then though agaisnt it
  27. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #27
    nah i dont like the VAG scene at all!

    its a MG ZS.. not to everyones taste but im a HUGE MG fan!

    oh and anyone who gives it the "not a rover" bollocks just stop there as you have already shown you know nothing about them lol
  28. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GTI_89 View Post
    nah i dont like the VAG scene at all!

    its a MG ZS.. not to everyones taste but im a HUGE MG fan!

    oh and anyone who gives it the "not a rover" bollocks just stop there as you have already shown you know nothing about them lol
    i knew it was the mg

    zs/zt same fecking car!!! haha

    wasnt sure if it was this or the zr thats why i just kept it to MG
  29. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #29
    Why do you not like the VAG scene?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GTI_89 View Post
    nah i dont like the VAG scene at all!

    its a MG ZS.. not to everyones taste but im a HUGE MG fan!

    oh and anyone who gives it the "not a rover" bollocks just stop there as you have already shown you know nothing about them lol
    I like those tarted up rovers Karl.


    Serious note i do like them.
  30. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GTI_89 View Post
    nah i dont like the VAG scene at all!

    its a MG ZS.. not to everyones taste but im a HUGE MG fan!

    oh and anyone who gives it the "not a rover" bollocks just stop there as you have already shown you know nothing about them lol
    Great cars let down by common k-series fault ruining them much the same as lancia had happen to them... Me personally dont rate them, however dad had one in, rover 75 178,000 on it spec'd really well drove well just got ruined as a manufacturer name...
  31. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #31
    going to take a while to find the perfect one though, not many the way i want one in diesel but they are out there!

    missed a beaut 2 years ago and regreted it since!
  32. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #32
    Tbh after me being a geek about the power figures how many cars run the same engine power outputs (not to say there the same engine)
  33. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #33
    mmmm

    http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7327/hjhjhjb.jpg

    http://world-viewer.com/data_images/...-saloon-09.jpg

    exactly like that, has to be either x-power grey, black or blue
  34. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #34
    so.. back to the topic of this thread.

    anyone else like to share some info?
  35. Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5
    #35
    I had my A5 done. Got an extra 40bhp ish. Pulls a bit better now and still returns decent ish mpg for a fairly big engine. Would recommend getting it done!
  36. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #36
    ring pdtuning karl..theyll give you some info
    obvs a decent front mount and a decat/straight through will help
  37. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH
    #37
    I had a clio dci got it mapped and put a larger inter cooler + decat down at rs tuning in leeds and it give good gains and masses of extra torque.

    Induction kits are useless on diesels as they are free breathing so take what air they need anyway's as long as your filter's are pretty much free flowing.
  38. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2006 Wishaw United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7326 Nissan 350z
    #38
    see i'm thinking of having my diesel remapped but I've gotta get rid of the 306 first for the cash,
    im tryin to decide if I go with a little less hp an torque or perhaps lose a little mpg and go for that extra power, 2nd option is also slightly more expensive as I would need a decat
  39. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Gloucester Posts: 3000 Citroen Saxo VTR Renault 5
    #39
    Basically with diesel tuning it's about pumping as much fuel in as possible and sorting the air flow.
  40. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #40
    surely a decat would meen huge amounts of black smoke? id like to try and avoid this haha
  41. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH
    #41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GTI_89 View Post
    surely a decat would meen huge amounts of black smoke? id like to try and avoid this haha
    The de-cat on my clio was done and smoked like a bastard taking it to rs tuners. As soon as they had mapped it no more smoke except gear changes going balls out.
  42. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #42
    ahh so once mapped properly it should be ok, thats good to know.
  43. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2006 Wishaw United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7326 Nissan 350z
    #43
    dont actually know how many cats mine has its a 330d, it does mention on the site I was looking at that there might be an increase in smoke but nothing alarming
  44. Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1603
    #44
    Nice choice, the red these models come in looks great!
  45. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #45
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dondan View Post
    Nice choice, the red these models come in looks great!
    the dark or bright red mate?
  46. Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.
    #46
    Love these cars. Pappa used to have the zs 180 in yellow (first one ever made )
    Now he's got the Zt-t 190, and im driving the BRM.
    Very reliable and great fun to drive, all of them.

    People get put off by the HGF, but they're just faggots
  47. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2010 Here and there. Posts: 3372 205 GTi
    #47
    Quite alot of tuning options out there for these engines, for not alot of money. SDi injectors, remove EGR, remap and you will see around 140bhp. Pretty sure there are other D.I.Y things you can do to help release more power.
  48. Established Member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1355 Mk2 Silver VTR
    #48
    Map map map

    =

    Fap fap fap

  49. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500
    #49
    I had a Diesel Zr Karl, bored one night - SO around 3am me and my mate turned up the boooost, felt much better after that :-)
  50. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #50
    Don;t think it's been mentioned (I've had a quick skin read) BUT, Performance French Cars are running a section each month about dizel tuning. The guy that writes it runs the turbo diesel owners club UK (TDOCUK) and knows his stuff from the sounds of it. Were thinking about chopping in our MK3 golf GTi for a nice 306 HDi. then giving it a bit more fuel, a bit more boost and hopefully some nice subtle mods to freshen it up. There's one down the road in good nick... I might go and knock on and see if they want to swap!!
  51. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 142
    #51
    Diesels are the future! lol, mines got a spec list as long as my arm. Drinks fuel when you give it a boot full, still really decent MPG when you drive "normally" I find anyway. Mines a 306 D-turbo. So no ecu, but sure most modern diesel it would be possible have a twin map ecu get the best of both worlds?
  52. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #52
    Would you go for an HDi or DTurbo if you had the choice? I can't tell what difference their is?
  53. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #53
    thanks for al your replys guys, some good info been posted up

    cant wait to find one that i want!
  54. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz
    #54
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alanapone View Post
    Would you go for an HDi or DTurbo if you had the choice? I can't tell what difference their is?
    HDi has an ECU, D-turbo can pretty much be tuned with a screwdriver, turning boost, and fuel up.. But then again, id rather have a proper map on an ECU, by someone who has a clue
  55. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #55
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smiith View Post
    HDi has an ECU, D-turbo can pretty much be tuned with a screwdriver, turning boost, and fuel up.. But then again, id rather have a proper map on an ECU, by someone who has a clue
    this^^

    hdi for "proper tuning2"

    limited by what you can do with the dturbo as once youve turned the pump and injectors up that's it..be lucky to get 140bhp at best out of that

    hdi can take bigger turbo and injectors and have the fueling and ignition properly tuned to make decent power

    a mate has a 306 hdi at about 180bhp

    another mate is putting an hdi in a 205gti shell..and will be running about the same power
  56. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #56
    I see!! Spot on

    So the HDi can be set up with a better map rather than or as well as tuning things like the boost levels and fueling?

    I'd only want a decent power if it's economical too. The Golf is currently doing about 35mpg and we could do with getting a bit better economy out of something hence why I'd looking into the 306 as it looks like a bigger 106 which I like.
  57. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
    #57
    i havent read all the comments on here yet but in response to the OP,

    i had an MGZR TD 115 with a decat and mafam box on it, thats all it had. did about 40mpg and its mid range grunt was impressive, 3-4K it woulsd accelarate (after some serious lag) pretty hard. I loved the car alot but though it was quick midrange it wasnt useable really and starting it up i dreaded as it just sounded so rough and awful, sounded like it had serious diesel knock but was assured it was fine.

    Had several friends with 306Dturbo's and my only comment can be though you hear good tales on the internet and hear of people with good ones none of the ones i have seen have been much cop. standard they are guttless but will do a genuine 55mpg, but turn the pump up and they rattle themselves to pieces at idle, every copper pulls you as everyone behind you has developed emphysema and like my old MG, the power delivery is useless. Also, as a result of the pump being turned up by someone who didnt know what they were doing the headgaskets usually fail, alternativly, they adjust the boost way out of line and something else breaks.

    Remap wise, a few of my friends have had cheap remaps done, the power has been noticably increased but a few have had turbos fail, usually on VWs i will add. but usually not bad. Having spoken to a few mappers they have all highlighted that to create a map you need to have the car on a rolling road, and every car being slightly differant after a few miles in regards to wear and filters, oil etc they all respond differantly. As well as this, any modifications you have on the car will alter the peramiters of a map. long story short, if you get a plug in and play remap, how do you know its not just a generic map from a ... 307hdi? most diesels have the same ECU so you need to be careful.

    My own experience, i have a C4 VTS HDi at the moment as a trog about. It had 136bhp as standard, a dyno revealed 12 of them had escaped. after a remap, with the boost at 21psi it made a sound 191bhp and just shy of 400ft/ib. does around 35mpg and is great! being a 16v diesel is isnt quite as breathless higher up in the revs so drives more like a petrol.
    But still imo, my VTR is the better to drive, i get 50mpg driven steady and when its not its a right hoot!
  58. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 142
    #58
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    this^^

    hdi for "proper tuning2"

    limited by what you can do with the dturbo as once youve turned the pump and injectors up that's it..be lucky to get 140bhp at best out of that

    hdi can take bigger turbo and injectors and have the fueling and ignition properly tuned to make decent power

    a mate has a 306 hdi at about 180bhp

    another mate is putting an hdi in a 205gti shell..and will be running about the same power
    Thats just not true.....

    Youll find they are both equal as far as mods go

    the d-turbo is basic. no ECU messing things up, no sensors, and all you need for a stage 1 is a basic tool kit, which will see anywhere from stock to 140-150bhp (probably more with the right tune and pump mods) its just trial and error really

    a hdi stage 1 remap will see 120+ but depends who does the map

    obviously, both being a turbo car you can increase modify the turbo,injection,exhaust, change the intercooler in the case of the DT or add one for a hdi and so on

    Feel free PM me with any questions, I've got a dturbo running close to 200bhp at the moment on a poorly turbo
  59. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #59
    on what turbo at what boost?

    mate is running a scooby td05 at 35psi and still hasnt touched 200bhp.....
  60. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 142
    #60
    Thats because its a scooby turbo.....Mines a one off hybrid you wont see another running gauge only goes upto 30psi, flies straight off.

    If you can find me a 50psi gauge for less than a million pound I'll tell you exactly
  61. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 West Sussex Posts: 7566 CLS63 AMG
    #61
    I've seen a few 306 diesels tuned and all they do is sound shit and chug up more black smoke than a coal mine.

    Leave it humble and enjoy the decent economy IMO.
  62. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #62
    is your car blue? i think ive read your thread before on another forum..

    youve taken my post out of context by the way with basic mods IE the screw driver..the dturbo and hdi are equals..to get big power IE what your wanting to/doing..its easier with the hdi for the reasons i posted

    i say hes running 35psi...hes not running an actuator...just massive spring to keep the wastegate shut
  63. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 West Sussex Posts: 7566 CLS63 AMG
    #63
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by frenchcarparts View Post
    If you can find me a 50psi gauge for less than a million pound I'll tell you exactly
    You mean this?

    http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/30050...var=sbar&cbt=y
  64. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 142
    #64
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jazz View Post
    THANKS!!

    I've never found anything (in PSI over 35!)
  65. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #65
    waht is the spec of your turbo dude?
  66. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #66
    Karl listen to Uncle Gav turn the boost up nice big fmic remap it enjoy fund it by selling more doirty socks
  67. Established Member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1355 Mk2 Silver VTR
    #67
    I'd love to smoke the chavs with a derv though.

    Have an exhaust pointing to the curb and then BOOOOM get smoked.
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  68. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
    #68
    All smoke, no poke is often the case. . . and what kind of headgasket and valve springs do you use that withstand 35psi of boost going into and engine with an 18.1 comp ratio! Jesus that's got some pressure in there.
  69. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #69
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    Karl listen to Uncle Gav turn the boost up nice big fmic remap it enjoy fund it by selling more doirty socks
    haha i like your style! only thing i dont want is plumes of black smoke.

    also want it to be "safe", dont want to be forever changing turbos etc etc
  70. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #70
    It's all standard lol
  71. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
    #71
    I would like to know the spec of this diesel engine
  72. Established Member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1355 Mk2 Silver VTR
    #72
    Oh my hahaha found my ultimate cars, look slammed too!

  73. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
    #73
    Im not sure if that's serious.
  74. Established Member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1355 Mk2 Silver VTR
    #74
    It is.
  75. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #75
    lol fucking awesome smoke!! just imagine driving them and some bell end is up your chuff foot dowsn boom smog screen
  76. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 591
    #76
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    this^^

    hdi for "proper tuning2"

    limited by what you can do with the dturbo as once youve turned the pump and injectors up that's it..be lucky to get 140bhp at best out of that

    hdi can take bigger turbo and injectors and have the fueling and ignition properly tuned to make decent power

    a mate has a 306 hdi at about 180bhp

    another mate is putting an hdi in a 205gti shell..and will be running about the same power
    Funny enough my mate has a 205 running a dturbo sure last time it was rr'd it was over 200bhp
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  77. Established Member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1355 Mk2 Silver VTR
    #77
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    lol fucking awesome smoke!! just imagine driving them and some bell end is up your chuff foot dowsn boom smog screen
    Just like this mate!


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  78. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #78
    Funny shit. HA HA.
  79. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #79
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by m4tt274 View Post
    I would like to know the spec of this diesel engine
    Which one? Lad I know or the dturbo?

    Lad I know is just an hdi with big front mount, alloy boost pipes, a new manifold and downpipe, running a scooby tdo5 with the actuator disconnected and a big spring behind the waste gate trap door lol

    Mapped up with bigger injectors

    Made about 180bhp and daft torque
  80. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS
    #80
    fuck it i might get the 2.5 V6 180.. if the insurance allows me!