Identify These Cams

  1. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #1
    Finally got around to removing the J4 covers for JP4 covers instead yesterday. Also wanted to identify what cams have been used. Thought there would be more markings on them, anyway, managed to get these photos while the covers were off.

    Inlet:


    Exhaust:



  2. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #2
    look standard to me tbh. Can you crank the engine over by hand and photo the other sides of the cams?
  3. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #3
    No not tried turning it over.

    Standard? Would explain why it doesnt feel much quicker than my old one. Was supposedly some wild cam where they had to pocket the pistons. Even said in the advert 'high lift Cat Cams' so was expecting 708s.

    When i go back outside later Ill check the head on my old one, see if the markings match.
  4. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 perth Posts: 224 106 gti cheery red, 106 rallye phase 2 blaca white
    #4
    standard
  5. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #5
    normally you'll see "sportcam" or somesuch on them, that's why it might be on the other side.

    If you can get access to a borescope worth sticking that down a plughole to check the piston crowns too maybe if these do turn out to be standard.

    Sorry to be negative - I hope I'm wrong for you!
  6. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #6
    Me too Ross!

    If they are, I still have some brand new 708s and vernier pulleys to go on

    Edit:

    Those new 708s only have 'CAT' on them, have a smooth surface

    The ones in my old engine have 'P9' and '27' on the exhaust cam, also a rough surface like in the picture in the first post, would assume then it is a standard cam. Idle is smooth too (well except for the solid engine mounts ) so kind of all makes sense now.
  7. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 perth Posts: 224 106 gti cheery red, 106 rallye phase 2 blaca white
    #7
    i have also seen catcams with the number engraved on the end off each cam
  8. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bigezz View Post
    i have also seen catcams with the number engraved on the end off each cam
    Catcam's have this stamped on them


    Them cams are standerd
  9. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #9
    get the borescope out then. Then go round and get some cash back from where you got the car... Looks like you got fleeced. Sorry buddy.
  10. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #10
    paid fuck all anyway
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  11. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Sawtry Posts: 3456 Saxo VTS Saxo VTR
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chr15 View Post
    paid fuck all anyway
    I'd still go back and get some ££ back mate,

    Mis-leading info on advert
  12. Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Torbay Posts: 1285 Mauritius Vts, 206 Gti 180
    #12
    They don't look like standard cams to me. They look like my 708's (might not actually be 708's but they look identical apart from mine had CAT stamped on them like above.)

    Look at these two pictures i have, taken when i was fitting my 708's.
    If you look at the first picture the standard cams are longer (look gearbox side) and don't have the hexagonal part (pulley end)
    The second picture is when i was putting the 708's in.



  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #13
    gmc cams?
  14. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #14
    He did say that GMC supplied them but in the advert it says Cat Cams