cat cams

17th September 2012, 10:39

im wanting to cam my vtr but toatlly new to cams im looking to buy some cams that are decent for a road setup daily use ect.. But i want cams that need a map. run lumpy on idol you no the drill basically the best ones that gain the most performance for my car with a map or without a map my vtr is the 90bhp Phase 1 1998. Cams that run smooth without a map ive heard you cant really gain alot well not as much as ones that run lumpy and need a map dont quote on that. My setup im looking for is 421 mani decent exhaust system s1 inlet cams.and map for a road setup with decent ish gains. im going to bid on these cams on ebay but will the be any good with my setup as above what im looking for thanks guys http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAT-CAMS-R...item43b39cbcc2

17th September 2012, 10:52

You're probably aware, but from the sounds of your post I'm not sure, you know that your VTR is single cam, so you don't have 2 separate camshafts for operating inlet and exhaust valves?

17th September 2012, 11:08

^ don't listen to him, he can't even fit arb bushes!

17th September 2012, 11:37

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Originally Posted by D4MJT

You're probably aware, but from the sounds of your post I'm not sure, you know that your VTR is single cam, so you don't have 2 separate camshafts for operating inlet and exhaust valves?

Cheers for post ino its single cam the list on ebay if for the single cam i changed the cam belt on my vtr so im aware thats its single cam sorry if i put cam im ust to having mg zrs and saying cams mgs lol so what would be the best cam for the car cheers

17th September 2012, 11:42

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Originally Posted by MuZiZZle

^ don't listen to him, he can't even fit arb bushes!

Annoyingly true. So far.

17th September 2012, 16:10

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Originally Posted by burgin2011

im wanting to cam my vtr but toatlly new to cams im looking to buy some cams that are decent for a road setup daily use ect.. But i want cams that need a map. run lumpy on idol you no the drill basically the best ones that gain the most performance for my car with a map or without a map my vtr is the 90bhp Phase 1 1998. Cams that run smooth without a map ive heard you cant really gain alot well not as much as ones that run lumpy and need a map dont quote on that. My setup im looking for is 421 mani decent exhaust system s1 inlet cams.and map for a road setup with decent ish gains. im going to bid on these cams on ebay but will the be any good with my setup as above what im looking for thanks guys http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAT-CAMS-R...item43b39cbcc2

They look correct to me, Havent read through it properly though, im at work.

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Originally Posted by MuZiZZle

^ don't listen to him, he can't even fit arb bushes!

Whaaa, Isnt that a 5 minute jobby?

17th September 2012, 18:13

[QUOTE=jasonmayall;6098026]They look correct to me, Havent read through it properly though, im at work.

Will they be any good for decent gains because i wanna do the other bits after like mani ect..... What sort of gains will i get with this cam without a map? Thanks

17th September 2012, 19:23

ive run the kent cam set up with the pully and no map its works quite well

18th September 2012, 09:22

Its says for racing use only so wont the power band be dead high like 3500 to 6200 or something? Just hope the will be good for road use everyday plodding around.

18th September 2012, 09:42

[quote=burgin2011;6098126]

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Originally Posted by jasonmayall

They look correct to me, Havent read through it properly though, im at work.

Will they be any good for decent gains because i wanna do the other bits after like mani ect..... What sort of gains will i get with this cam without a map? Thanks

I didnt notice that it says for rally/race.
I dont think this will will work without a proper map, or even an after market ECU. Also, Race / Rally cams generally need head work and a proper intake (IE bodies or carbs).

I wouldnt consider a cam like this until you've done other work, I would also get a proper exhaust with a manifold / sports cat or decat before you get any form of after market cam in there.

You do need to get the breathing mods out of the way first before you do start to play with any bits inside the engine, as you just wont get the full benefit from them.

Hope this helps.

18th September 2012, 11:27

Cheers for that mate saved me a bit of cash hehe now i no what to do first just gonna buy a decent mani and exhaust 1st +1

18th September 2012, 11:39

[quote=jasonmayall;6098896]

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Originally Posted by burgin2011

I didnt notice that it says for rally/race.
I dont think this will will work without a proper map, or even an after market ECU. Also, Race / Rally cams generally need head work and a proper intake (IE bodies or carbs).

I wouldnt consider a cam like this until you've done other work, I would also get a proper exhaust with a manifold / sports cat or decat before you get any form of after market cam in there.

You do need to get the breathing mods out of the way first before you do start to play with any bits inside the engine, as you just wont get the full benefit from them.

Hope this helps.

You'll more likely need pocketed pistons if its a particularly high lift cam. What spec is this cam featured as I cant see ebay from here?

18th September 2012, 12:00

[quote=Gandi699;6099002]

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Originally Posted by jasonmayall

You'll more likely need pocketed pistons if its a particularly high lift cam. What spec is this cam featured as I cant see ebay from here?

Theres an image with the specs on so i cant copy and paste lol.
it does specify - for competition applications only

20th September 2012, 11:00

I think the valve lift is 11.75mm think thats kinda high