Engine stud nuts pushing against manifold pipes so i cant fit the mani

  1. L-plater Joined: Jun 2012 Jersey Posts: 80 Citroen Saxo VTR
    #1
    I tried fitting a manifold i just got of this guy and he had told me it was a phase 2 manifold but when i fitted it the stud nuts joining the engine and the manifold together weren’t getting to the end of the thread because the nuts keep on pushing against the manifolds pipes until it could go no further (which was about 1/2 way down one of the sides of the studs thread). Surly if it was a proper phase 2 mani it would do this

    The mani i got looks exactly like this and that says it’s a phase 2
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CITROEN-SA...item5d3056ee89
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo
    #2
    mk2 manifolds fit.around the paper filter. if there is no issue at the bottom it should fit

    i dont understand your issue though, doesnt fit around the studs or they are not long enough to go all the way through?

    summat coild be bent??
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr
    #3
    take the studs out and replace them with bolts
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by danny-vts View Post
    take the studs out and replace them with bolts
    Ive just been advised against this..?

    lol.
  5. L-plater Joined: Jun 2012 Jersey Posts: 80 Citroen Saxo VTR
    #5
    Sorry just realised I was a genius and put bolts instead of nuts
    Nah you can get the studs in but when you do up the nuts up it pushes against the piping so you can’t tighten them up
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo
    #6
    ohhh i think i know now what you mean!!

    to be honest, that manifold link you posted has actually been discussed many a time on here, they are quite frankly shit (apparently)

    so it goes that the design of them is not so great (as you have found out) and they are not that well flowing when compared with a supersprint/raceland which can be had for similar money....

    you could try some smaller nuts to go on your studs, if any even exist, other than that, im not sure what else to suggest..
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #7
    Poor manifold design probably, my old one was similar. Try some thinner nuts
  8. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mlawlan69 View Post

    you could try some smaller nuts to go on your studs, if any even exist, other than that, im not sure what else to suggest..
    You cut the studs down so they don't hit the pipes, every aftermarket manifold I've came in to contact with need at least one stud cutting
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 worcester Posts: 703 peugeot 106 VTR
    #9
    i think its stud 1 and 3 that cause issues on the bottom row from L-R
    just saw down whichever is the culprit
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo
    #10
    no such issues with my raceland manifold though.... no botching needed....
  11. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 felixstowe, suffolk Posts: 149 Citroen ax vtr turbo
    #11
    just get a better quality one 2nd hand
  12. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Scotland Posts: 1191 02 Saxo Vts
    #12
    In guessing its a sportex mani? If so They are actually decent manifolds just the welds are abit sloppy!
    Just file down the welds so you can fully tighten the nuts!
  13. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380
    #13
    a wild guess -- remove nuts from the studs --fit studs in head using 2 nuts to lock and tighten studs fullyso they are tight in head
    then mount manifold and fit all nuts loosely then tighten up