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1. largy Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Ivybridge Posts: 168 S1 Rallye

   #1 22nd October 2012, 11:59

   Hi would a 2002 106 gti loom fit my plug behind the passanger light on my 2001 y Reg Furio ?
   
   Thanks ben
2. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

   #2 22nd October 2012, 12:08

   No it wont fit.
3. largy Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Ivybridge Posts: 168 S1 Rallye

   #3 22nd October 2012, 12:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Tom5190 No it wont fit.

   okay thanks, take it i would have to get a different loom ?
4. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

   #4 22nd October 2012, 12:14

   Your Y reg will have a crossover loom on it, is it single or three plug ECU? Theres two types of crossover looms.
   
   You can either get the loom spliced or use a vts loom/ECU from the same age as yours and possibly swap a few sensors round.
5. largy Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Ivybridge Posts: 168 S1 Rallye

   #5 22nd October 2012, 13:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Tom5190 Your Y reg will have a crossover loom on it, is it single or three plug ECU? Theres two types of crossover looms. You can either get the loom spliced or use a vts loom/ECU from the same age as yours and possibly swap a few sensors round.

   well my furio is 3 plug
6. largy Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Ivybridge Posts: 168 S1 Rallye

   #6 22nd October 2012, 15:02

   will this plug fit mine ? casue if so then ive found a loom
   
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7. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

   #7 22nd October 2012, 15:17

   If yours in a Y reg three plug then there is a chance that will fit however not 100%. Can you take a photo of yours? Thats a single plug VTS loom by the look of it, some of the crossover looms have that connection on and some have a varient of the 3 plug one (its not the same as the later 3-plug models though so it wouldn't work)
   
   Only way to tell is to grab a photo of the one thats on your car.
8. largy Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Ivybridge Posts: 168 S1 Rallye

   #8 22nd October 2012, 15:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Tom5190 If yours in a Y reg three plug then there is a chance that will fit however not 100%. Can you take a photo of yours? Thats a single plug VTS loom by the look of it, some of the crossover looms have that connection on and some have a varient of the 3 plug one (its not the same as the later 3-plug models though so it wouldn't work) Only way to tell is to grab a photo of the one thats on your car.

   
   okay thanks, well here's a photo of mine
   
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9. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

   #9 22nd October 2012, 15:27

   Yea that wont fit you will need a loom of the exact same year or a splice. The plug you have there is a generic 3-plug chassis plug, however there is two types, yours is the annoying one with the 3 rows of pins. A 3-plug VTS loom would plug into it and technically fit but it wouldn't work as the pins are in the wrong places.
10. largy Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Ivybridge Posts: 168 S1 Rallye

    #10 22nd October 2012, 15:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom5190 Yea that wont fit you will need a loom of the exact same year or a splice. The plug you have there is a generic 3-plug chassis plug, however there is two types, yours is the annoying one with the 3 rows of pins. A 3-plug VTS loom would plug into it and technically fit but it wouldn't work as the pins are in the wrong places.

    okay thanks for your help ill just keep searching till i find one
11. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #11 22nd October 2012, 15:37

    They tend to be the hardest ones to find tbh matey, id save time and get it spliced.
12. largy Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Ivybridge Posts: 168 S1 Rallye

    #12 22nd October 2012, 15:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom5190 They tend to be the hardest ones to find tbh matey, id save time and get it spliced.

    is it a hard job do ?
13. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #13 22nd October 2012, 15:45

    Erm well its impossible to do yourself without a wiring diagram, but there are people who do it...
14. largy Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Ivybridge Posts: 168 S1 Rallye

    #14 22nd October 2012, 15:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom5190 Erm well its impossible to do yourself without a wiring diagram, but there are people who do it...

    okay well do you know any company that would do it and if so roughly how much for ?
15. shaneio Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 welwyn garden city, hertfordshire Posts: 2313 s1 106 xsi

    #15 22nd October 2012, 17:20

    Why not just get a 3 plug vts loom as that's a straight fit. The 2001 was never a cross over
16. largy Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Ivybridge Posts: 168 S1 Rallye

    #16 22nd October 2012, 17:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shaneio Why not just get a 3 plug vts loom as that's a straight fit. The 2001 was never a cross over

    i didnt know, thanks ill look for one of them then
17. shaneio Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 welwyn garden city, hertfordshire Posts: 2313 s1 106 xsi

    #17 22nd October 2012, 17:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by largy i didnt know, thanks ill look for one of them then

    Their not that easy to get hold of, needs to be 2001 onwards, if your using the pre 2001 engine the you need to get 3plug sensors, not all of them as some are the same
18. largy Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Ivybridge Posts: 168 S1 Rallye

    #18 22nd October 2012, 19:11

    what sensors would need to be changed then
19. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #19 22nd October 2012, 19:17

    Anything with the newer plug than his wont fit, it screws in but the pins are different. it will have to be a 2001 vts loom or a splice.
20. wheeler Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2012 York Posts: 262 VTR with VTS engine

    #20 22nd October 2012, 19:26

    splicing = have a look on yell.com or yellow pages for 'auto electricians' in your local area. They'll probably quote an hourly rate and estimate how many hours they reckon it'll take them. Not an insane job but if you know what you're doing and have a diagram it'll probably be a lot easier = plus if it fecks up then it's on them to sort it.
21. shaneio Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 welwyn garden city, hertfordshire Posts: 2313 s1 106 xsi

    #21 22nd October 2012, 22:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom5190 Anything with the newer plug than his wont fit, it screws in but the pins are different. it will have to be a 2001 vts loom or a splice.

    There is nothing with a newer plug than his, he has the big multiplug and 3 plug ecu. Don't u mean anything older.
    
    Iirc the change over year loom has a big multiplug but single ecu - this will still fit
22. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #22 23rd October 2012, 10:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shaneio There is nothing with a newer plug than his, he has the big multiplug and 3 plug ecu. Don't u mean anything older. Iirc the change over year loom has a big multiplug but single ecu - this will still fit

    No, there are 2 varients of the newer plug, he has the older one. They all 'fit' but the pins dont line up, therefore dont work.