Saxo 1.4 VTS Question

  1. Newbie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 13
    #1
    Hi guys, I'm new here, but i have a question. I have a Saxo 1.4 VTS Tu3jp engine, now i want to have an 1.6 16v engine. What do i need for this? New Ecu? New Wiring?
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #2
    You need a saxo vts, far simpler to just buy one, insurance will be cheaper than fitting a 1.6 16v to your car.

    you need 1.6 16v engine, wiring loom, ecu, brakes.
  3. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 North East Posts: 510 EP3 Type R
    #3
    a Saxo 1.4 VTS ? didn't know they also came in 1.4's
  4. Newbie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 13
    #4
    Thanx Welshpug, so the the new wiring loom will fit on the old connection? Yes i have an VTS only a 1.4 and i want an 1.6 engine. I work at the Citroen dealer so i can do it myself . Yes Martin they came in 1.4, 1.6 8v and 1.6 16v.
  5. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 North East Posts: 510 EP3 Type R
    #5
    what bhp is the 1.4 vts?
  6. Newbie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 13
    #6
    74 Horses
  7. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 North East Posts: 510 EP3 Type R
    #7
    so its like a 1.4 furio then
  8. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #8
    Furio, vtr and vts were badged as vts iirc on the continent
  9. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by martin1985 View Post
    so its like a 1.4 furio then
    Yes they are just imports from Ireland or something iirc.
  10. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 North East Posts: 510 EP3 Type R
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cam View Post
    Yes they are just imports from Ireland or something iirc.
    what's the reason for them being small/ less powerful engine's in ireland do you know?
  11. Newbie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 13
    #11
    But is it possible to put an 1.6 16v ? And yes it's a furio .
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Angelo93 View Post
    But is it possible to put an 1.6 16v ? And yes it's a furio .
    Yes i've done it to mine.
    You need a loom that is the same plug as your current on i.e at the ecu 3 plug or single.
    You'll need a unlocked ecu make sure it is unlocked or you get a headache.
    The engine and sensors ofc,
    A clucth and new cambelt kit is near enough a must as they rarely come with service history.
    Your Gearbox and driveshafts can be used but you may want to get a Vts box for better ratios
    Brakes are not really a must i ran my conversion with furio brakes for a good 8-9 months until i upgraded to 283mm brakes, i only changed because new pads and disks was due or i would have just left them.
  13. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #13
    yes.

    are you in Belgium?
  14. Newbie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 13
    #14
    No im in holland haha But if i buy a used ecu for a 16v? Is that also an possiblity?
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.
    #15
    Yes dont buy a new ecu from citreon they will want stupid money.
  16. Newbie Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 13
    #16
    no im not buying a new ecu, just a used one of a 16v engine.
  17. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo
    #17
    vts, vtr & furio brakes are all 247mm no??

    just drums on back of the furio but decent drums are as good as disks really.