Help finding mk1 vtr downpipe

1. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #1 3rd November 2012, 23:36

   Ok I need a mk1 vtr downpipe to put on my mk2 to decat it. I already have a mk1 manifold just need the downpipe because there are 2 different types apparently as the one I have now does'nt fit and hits the sump? any help please
2. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

   #2 4th November 2012, 00:11

   basically your problem is the mk1 manifold you have is designed for the mk1 oil filter set up.
   
   you need to convert your current oil set up to a mk1 design and then your manifold wont hit the shitty mk2 set up...
   
   -edit- guide here for you.
   
   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87713
3. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #3 4th November 2012, 00:16

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mlawlan69 basically your problem is the mk1 manifold you have is designed for the mk1 oil filter set up. you need to convert your current oil set up to a mk1 design and then your manifold wont hit the shitty mk2 set up... -edit- guide here for you. http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87713

   No, ive done that converted it to a spin on metal filter today and tapped and blocked the oil return hole etc.. the problem i'm having is I have a mk1 manifold and downpipe but the downpipe is hitting my sump and is impossible to fit? are there 2 types of mk1 downpipe or something?
   
   thanks
4. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

   #4 4th November 2012, 00:22

   ahhh i apologise, after reading the original post now i noticed you mentioned it hits the sump !!
   
   regarding your other question, i cant help as i wasn't aware there were two mk1 downpipes, i thought they were all the same :$
5. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #5 4th November 2012, 00:26

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mlawlan69 ahhh i apologise, after reading the original post now i noticed you mentioned it hits the sump !! regarding your other question, i cant help as i wasn't aware there were two mk1 downpipes, i thought they were all the same :$

   No worries yeah i'm really confused to be honest I thought they were all the same but theres no chance this is gonna fit its not even close
6. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #6 4th November 2012, 13:10

   I`ll take a wild guess at this & suggest,would it not be possible to heat the downpipe up.Then bend it carefully so it provides enough clearance,or am I talking b+llocks lol?
7. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #7 4th November 2012, 18:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stevo67 I`ll take a wild guess at this & suggest,would it not be possible to heat the downpipe up.Then bend it carefully so it provides enough clearance,or am I talking b+llocks lol?

   Cheers for the idea but I think its just 2 short to fit even if i bent it it wouldnt line up with the gearbox bolt hole its a good 2 inches away.. Sure I must have the wrong one :/
8. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #8 4th November 2012, 21:00

   Is it an aftermarket downpipe of standard one?
9. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #9 5th November 2012, 13:00

   Its a standard mk1 manifold and downpipe with the 1 lambda hole in it, i'm not sure what engine its off but i just figured 8vs all had the same fitment?
10. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #10 5th November 2012, 13:15

    Ive made the same mistake, if its a 1.1 downpipe they seem to be shorter by an inch or so which makes the gbox mount foul the sump. Even had the same problem on my mk2 mani, got a barely used cat from a 1.1 and had to grind off the mount, even then it sat odd and rattled!
11. Old_School_Saxo Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2012 Cearphilly (Area) Posts: 218 Saxo Ph2 Furio, Fiesta Mk4 1.7, Astra H 1.8 SRI

    #11 5th November 2012, 15:14

    i know im new but are the two diffrent sumps? as some cars do change the sumps on them where theres a diffrent stye exhaust on the same engine.
12. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

    #12 6th November 2012, 12:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chinkostu Ive made the same mistake, if its a 1.1 downpipe they seem to be shorter by an inch or so which makes the gbox mount foul the sump. Even had the same problem on my mk2 mani, got a barely used cat from a 1.1 and had to grind off the mount, even then it sat odd and rattled!

    Thankyou, this is the exact same problem I must have a 1.1 pipe!