Cleaning my engine

  1. Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 19
    #1
    So I'm a new to the saxo scene but wanna clean up my engine so it looks half decent seen this and it looks nice wot kinda stuff do I need to mine somewhere near this clean???
  2. Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411
    #2
    I'd say time, effort, bit of polish, perhaps some paint and a steam cleaner. Might get you close enough. Also attention to detail always shines through!
  3. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Rugby Posts: 752 saxo vtr 02, 150bhp yamaha FZ1:)
    #3
    This is mine just a bit of paint and a wipe over
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #4
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  5. L-plater Joined: Nov 2008 coalville Posts: 37 citroen ax focus estate
    #5
    as above time and elbow dont bother spending big bucks on chrome bits.
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by barwell1992 View Post
    This is mine just a bit of paint and a wipe over
    Lambda on 1 pipe?

  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002
    #7
    If we are ASW-ing.....

    Currently usually requires just leaves picking out of places really!
  8. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Rugby Posts: 752 saxo vtr 02, 150bhp yamaha FZ1:)
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prickle View Post
    Lambda on 1 pipe?

    yup its a 3 plug so lambda on top and one lower down with a reducer to trick the ecu into thinking it has a cat but keeping the fueling correct
  9. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by barwell1992 View Post
    yup its a 3 plug so lambda on top and one lower down with a reducer to trick the ecu into thinking it has a cat but keeping the fueling correct
    Ah right. Fair enough.
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002
    #10
    Surely you'd be better with green lambda plug in the bulk section, where the most gas flows, ie 4-2-1, where it becomes 1
    Think that's what prickle is getting at, then sleeve the blue plug
    That's what I've done on mine anyway!
    4-1 manifold, green plug at the base of manifold, blue plug sleeved!
    You can get little plugs for the manifolds too, so you could move the lambda around!
  11. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dolby20 View Post
    Surely you'd be better with green lambda plug in the bulk section, where the most gas flows, ie 4-2-1, where it becomes 1
    Think that's what prickle is getting at, then sleeve the blue plug
    That's what I've done on mine anyway!
    4-1 manifold, green plug at the base of manifold, blue plug sleeved!
    You can get little plugs for the manifolds too, so you could move the lambda around!
    Yeah.

    If it has no cat wont it overfuel anyway?
  12. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002
    #12
    I have gone from brand new cat to full decat, fuel consumption hasn't changed significantly!
    Used to get 320 miles to a tank - urban driving/commuting
    Now get 300 :/
    Can still easily get 400 motorway miles if doing 60/70! So nothing to lose sleep over really
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #13
    Shouldn't be in one pipe only

    Not gonna fuel right and if any of the other cylinders run rich or lean you won't know
  14. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Rugby Posts: 752 saxo vtr 02, 150bhp yamaha FZ1:)
    #14
    no to derail but both of my lambda plugs are in the manifold and not sleeved, the lower one fits in to the manifold by a extender with a pin hole opening this is just enough for the lambda to sense the gas and because of the reduced flow of gas the ecu thinks the cat is doing its job

    ps my mani lambda plug holes are in to single header pipe's (upper in one pipe and the lower in another) not the collector, i have never had a problem

    this is the extension i made, it threads into a bored and tapped blanking plug and the lambda then screws into that and then the whole lot into the mani



    Sorry for derail
  15. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by barwell1992 View Post
    no to derail but both of my lambda plugs are in the manifold and not sleeved, the lower one fits in to the manifold by a extender with a pin hole opening this is just enough for the lambda to sense the gas and because of the reduced flow of gas the ecu thinks the cat is doing its job

    ps my mani lambda plug holes are in to single header pipe's not the collector

    this is the extension i made, it threads into a bored and tapped blanking plug and the lambda then screws into that and then the whole lot into the mani

    Sorry for derail
    Oh i see.

    And i wouldnt worry about the de-rail. OP posted it in the wrong section anyway.
  16. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
    #16
    lambda business is fine. its common to see them like that and run fine.

    as for engine bay, to make look lovely:
    remove ecu/tray from inner wing
    remove fuse box from inner wing
    remove battery
    remove air box

    then, scrub and scrub until there is no dirt anywhere. g101 works well or just fairy liquid ...

    clean all removed components and put them back in place.
    then buy:

    new exhaust heat shield from citroen.
    new top lambda sensor.
    rocker cover gasket

    then remove your rocker cover, sandblast or wire brush it then paint it colour of choice and refit with the new gasket.
    then with a fine brass wire brush and some alloy cleaner give the cylinder head a scrub up and then a polish.

    should look pretty spic and spam then.
    did the same to my bay only had a 4/2/1 instead of shiny heat shield.
    car was on 72,000 at time of picture

  17. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #17
    If your main lambda is only sensing one cylinder

    Then how does the ecu know what the fueling is doing on the other 3?
  18. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Rugby Posts: 752 saxo vtr 02, 150bhp yamaha FZ1:)
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    If your main lambda is only sensing one cylinder

    Then how does the ecu know what the fueling is doing on the other 3?
    it can't but for £90 new i dont mind that much, vts is on the cards so i'd rather spend money on that than the 8v

    but the reducer/spacer does work better than a sleeve
  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #19
    It was more aimed at Matt that said it'll be fine lol

    If one of your cylinders go lean or rich then you'll never know.. So not not fine really haha
  20. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Rugby Posts: 752 saxo vtr 02, 150bhp yamaha FZ1:)
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    It was more aimed at Matt that said it'll be fine lol

    If one of your cylinders go lean or rich then you'll never know.. So not not fine really haha
    ahh ok