Diffrence Between 1.4 and 1.6 8v

10th November 2012, 22:11

As above what diffrences are there between the 1.4 and 1.6 8v engines? (other than the piston and bore size lol)

Thanks...

10th November 2012, 23:02

one is less powerfuller than the other , (powerfuller) is that even a word!

10th November 2012, 23:09

There are like 5 different 1.6 8v engines which one ?

11th November 2012, 02:33

there are a few diff 1.4's too

but going off the more modern stuff...

the 1.4's are an alloy block with wet liners...the 1.6 is a cast block...the 1.6 has bigger valves

the overall is pretty similar....ex and inlet manis are interchangeable if you get corresponding head designs

the cams can be swapped if as above

etc etc

11th November 2012, 03:20

sorry i didnt know there was diffrent types.

Whats the diffrence between the stock saxo 1.4 v8 ph2 engine and the stock saxo 1.6 8v ph2 engine?
[ie whats the diffrence between the engine in my ph2 furio and a ph2 vtr?? ]

11th November 2012, 03:40

basically as above..

you can fit the vtr engine onto the 1.4 loom and run it...you "could" even run it on the 1.4 ecu..but not advised..do see many do it (particular with quicksilver.)

if you post up why/what you need to know..it may help out more..

11th November 2012, 22:33

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

basically as above..

you can fit the vtr engine onto the 1.4 loom and run it...you "could" even run it on the 1.4 ecu..but not advised..do see many do it (particular with quicksilver.)

if you post up why/what you need to know..it may help out more..

Well ive got a funny feeling my engine isnt going to last long as i found out yestarday there was no oil or water in my engine

and ive done 1,000 miles in it and i dont know how many more was done so it mite be on the way out lol, So what i was going to do was run this engine into the ground and buy and rebuild a 1.6 bottom end and when the engine does go i could just swap the botton ends over and get some head work done at the same time but now im just going to buy the whole engine and rebuild it all

just hope it doesnt end up like my other engine i have which i full rebuilt with headwork and cams then i sold the car and ive still got the engine lol....

Is there any diffrence between the 1.4 airbox and the 1.6 vtr airbox? as my air filter is well over due for a change by the look of it (its fuked lol) so ive going to fit a piper pannel filter and a cold air feed but dont know if the 1.6 box is bigger and if it is ill replace the airbox to...

11th November 2012, 22:37

If you had no water or oil it would sieze.

11th November 2012, 22:38

Oh you would know straight away if it had no oil or water in...

Like know.

11th November 2012, 22:38

1000 miles without oil or water?

did you not see the temp gauge or is it broken?

11th November 2012, 22:39

What makes you think its on its way out? service it fully and you might be alright unless its knocking badly, or using fluids.
Start with a good base 8v if you want to rebuild it, one of the more fruity ones if you want some power

11th November 2012, 22:46

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Originally Posted by Cam

If you had no water or oil it would sieze.

not really, my sister drove a ford sirrea from wales all the way to germany with no oil in at all (when she had it serviced thay removed the oil thay forgot to put new in lol) without any problems infact the car lasted 5 years more to (but it had oil in it then lol)

11th November 2012, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Prickle

Oh you would know straight away if it had no oil or water in...

Like know.

temp gauge is strange it toke 30 mins to get hot then start to go past half way but by then ive put the heaters on lol but i could smell the engine abit lol...
Oil light was only coming on when i went around bends hard but i checked it yestarday and it was bone dry lol...

11th November 2012, 22:49

Trololololol

11th November 2012, 22:50

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Originally Posted by mlawlan69

1000 miles without oil or water?

did you not see the temp gauge or is it broken?

well my gauges all locked up to start but i fixed that a few days ago then i noticed the temp gauge wouldnt do anything for miles then it shot up past half way but in this weather i have the heaters on and that drops the temp gauge back to 0 lol...

11th November 2012, 22:55

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Originally Posted by Old_School_Saxo

not really, my sister drove a ford sirrea from wales all the way to germany with no oil in at all (when she had it serviced thay removed the oil thay forgot to put new in lol) without any problems infact the car lasted 5 years more to (but it had oil in it then lol)

meanwhile in the real world...............

11th November 2012, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Gandi699

What makes you think its on its way out? service it fully and you might be alright unless its knocking badly, or using fluids.
Start with a good base 8v if you want to rebuild it, one of the more fruity ones if you want some power

shes not knocking yet but over the past week it has started to make a strange noise and shes getting more and more a pain to start, so i think ive cooked something, thats why i was asking about the diffrent between the 1.4 and 1.6 to see weather or not id just swap the bottom end over or the whole engine

but i will replace every part i can (seals bearings rings ect) for the bottom end using stock parts and the head and cams will gets some aftermarket work done

11th November 2012, 22:58

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Originally Posted by Bedford126

meanwhile in the real world...............

old ford engines are bomb proof, the cvh engines in the ka's will out last any ford engine currently beening used or for the last 10 years...

11th November 2012, 22:59

sorry endura-e engine lol...

11th November 2012, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Old_School_Saxo

old ford engines are bomb proof, the cvh engines in the ka's will out last any ford engine currently beening used or for the last 10 years...

Working for ford and been a ford trained mechanic I call bull shit.

11th November 2012, 23:02

heres some dip sticks trying to blow one up lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKLREAS0I5E

11th November 2012, 23:03

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Originally Posted by Bedford126

Working for ford and been a ford trained mechanic I call bull shit.

thats funny since everyone AT ford say the pug engine that replaced the endura-d engine is aload of shit and if it wasnt for the eu regs thay still would have used it!

11th November 2012, 23:05

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Originally Posted by Bedford126

Working for ford and been a ford trained mechanic I call bull shit.

also lets see the LAST ford engine that ford used was the what Zetec-R engine which was last fitted into the ford focus, all other engines are pug and mazda engines so you cant know much then....

11th November 2012, 23:11

Ha ha mate fuck off you have no fucking clue what you talk about the threads you reply in are utter bullshit on your behalf.

11th November 2012, 23:15

you think your engine has no water or oil in.

what ever you say is invalid.

11th November 2012, 23:18

The endura e is bombproof!

Gave mine hell from cold every day, ran it with little to no oil!
Tappets are overly noisy on them, moreso with barely any oil

Know a few boys on UKFN who also deliberately gave there's hell 24-7 to prove a point!

11th November 2012, 23:23

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Originally Posted by Old_School_Saxo

so you cant know much then....

says the guy who doesn't know what important role oil and water play in an engine.