OMEX Rev Limiter on a 1124 spi? HELP!

1. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

   #1 20th November 2012, 16:58

   Hi all, im from the 106owners forum and cant seem to get much help.
   
   Ive got a 1.1 spi and fitting a rev limiter on. Problem is my car is struggling to run at anystage with the system connected. Its all wired up correctly as far as I know and ive set it up on the unit as 2 cylinder etc.
   
   Any help will be greatly appreciated! Cheers Jack.
2. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #2 20th November 2012, 17:00

   Not sure if srs

   1 user thanked this post: Pricklep
3. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

   #3 20th November 2012, 17:07

   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=439517
   
   have a read of this.
   
   may help.
4. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

   #4 20th November 2012, 17:24

   Mmmmm still cant get it to work .
   
   Wanting flames to come out the back like...
   
   
   
   Gonna be epic
5. jasonmayall Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.

   #5 20th November 2012, 17:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by JHolden94 Hi all, im from the 106owners forum and cant seem to get much help. Ive got a 1.1 spi and fitting a rev limiter on. Problem is my car is struggling to run at anystage with the system connected. Its all wired up correctly as far as I know and ive set it up on the unit as 2 cylinder etc. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Cheers Jack.

   What rev limit are you planning on going to?
   Is the car standard? Assuming it is, You wont want to raise the limiter as you wont get any extra power and will probably blow the thing up.
6. jasonmayall Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.

   #6 20th November 2012, 17:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by JHolden94 Mmmmm still cant get it to work . Wanting flames to come out the back like... Gonna be epic

   A high rev limit wont make fire.
   
   Are you a troll?
7. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

   #7 20th November 2012, 17:26

   Only kiddingg aha,
   
   
   
   Got a scorpion exhaust that never pops when warm so was hoping this rev limiter will allow me to have some fun
8. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

   #8 20th November 2012, 17:26

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jasonmayall A high rev limit wont make fire. Are you a troll?

   The omex cuts the ignition, pumping fuel in still so should get some nice bangs from the 3inch pugsport .
9. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

   #9 20th November 2012, 17:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jasonmayall What rev limit are you planning on going to? Is the car standard? Assuming it is, You wont want to raise the limiter as you wont get any extra power and will probably blow the thing up.

   Its more for the launch control, you can set that to about 3k and makes some prettyy awesome bangs! Just need to get the damn thing working.
10. jasonmayall Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.

    #10 20th November 2012, 17:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JHolden94 Only kiddingg aha, Got a scorpion exhaust that never pops when warm so was hoping this rev limiter will allow me to have some fun

    Thank F**k for that lol. Actually looks quite tidy, although a tad high.
    
    Chances of getting fire from a 1.1 are slim unless its had a LOT of work done to it.
    
    I had a VTR back in the day, cammed, full exhaust with no silencers bar the unrestricted mini back box, head work and a remap.
    
    Popped a lot, but it only ever popped flames when i was really, really giving it some.
11. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

    #11 20th November 2012, 17:30

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFyosUcpZqs
12. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

    #12 20th November 2012, 17:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonmayall Thank F**k for that lol. Actually looks quite tidy, although a tad high. Chances of getting fire from a 1.1 are slim unless its had a LOT of work done to it. I had a VTR back in the day, cammed, full exhaust with no silencers bar the unrestricted mini back box, head work and a remap. Popped a lot, but it only ever popped flames when i was really, really giving it some.

    Ahaaa, cheers bud, its got bilstien group n suspension, with 40 mil lowering springs and the beam is lowered, but being a 1.1 its lighter than a 16v so still sits high :/.
    
    Ive had some pretty big bangs out of mine. When its cold, it runs rich, and makes some really nice pops. With this rev limiter though ill beable to bang when i want .
13. jasonmayall Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.

    #13 20th November 2012, 17:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JHolden94 Ahaaa, cheers bud, its got bilstien group n suspension, with 40 mil lowering springs and the beam is lowered, but being a 1.1 its lighter than a 16v so still sits high :/. Ive had some pretty big bangs out of mine. When its cold, it runs rich, and makes some really nice pops. With this rev limiter though ill beable to bang when i want .

    Lol, I'm still not convinced it will be easy on a 1.1 TBH, I know you've probably heard it before, but have you considered a bigger engine? lol.
    
    Also, Assuming you dont have a cat?
14. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #14 20th November 2012, 17:37

    You can have a 50cc engine, if you cut the spark with fuel still being injected in.. your going to get pops.
    
    That's what these rev limiters do..
15. II_IFAN_II Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 Caernarfon Posts: 256 1.1 FlatArch, VTR

    #15 20th November 2012, 17:50

    It will not bang on command... and the launch control is pointless... i have one on my vtr.. cant help with connecting it tho as mine is twin coil... have u defoneli got the right one for spi?
16. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

    #16 20th November 2012, 18:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by II_IFAN_II It will not bang on command... and the launch control is pointless... i have one on my vtr.. cant help with connecting it tho as mine is twin coil... have u defoneli got the right one for spi?

    Thats what im trying to find out, as far as I know all tu engines that use an ecu are twin coil and use a wasted spark design.
17. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #17 20th November 2012, 18:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JHolden94 Mmmmm still cant get it to work . Wanting flames to come out the back like... Gonna be epic

    That would kill your Cat if you still have one fitted.
18. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

    #18 20th November 2012, 18:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AXracing That would kill your Cat if you still have one fitted.

    Has a sports cat.
19. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

    #19 20th November 2012, 18:06

    pops and bangs are just unburned fuel in the exhaust. a decat will provide a better result. drill a hole in the exhaust a few inches from the end, weld a captive nut with a matching metric thread to a spark plug, doesnt really matter which, any spark plug will do.
    then buy one of these - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flamer-Kit...item4abea8da17
    
    chav-tastic but they do work. much cheaper than a omex setup.
20. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #20 20th November 2012, 18:21

    does it make you go faster? trololol
21. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

    #21 20th November 2012, 18:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle does it make you go faster? trololol

    The launch control could help off the line if you get it setup correctly.
22. user_27192 Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS

    #22 20th November 2012, 18:38

    on a 1.1 it will still be slow...
23. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

    #23 20th November 2012, 18:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chr15 on a 1.1 it will still be slow...

    Oh yeah dont worry about that .
24. II_IFAN_II Regular Poster Joined: May 2010 Caernarfon Posts: 256 1.1 FlatArch, VTR

    #24 20th November 2012, 19:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JHolden94 The launch control could help off the line if you get it setup correctly.

    No. On my vtr it does not make any difference on launching because it not powerful enough to need launch control to start with.
    
    So a 1.1 will not benefit from it at all..... + a sport cat is still a cat so it would still destroy it...
    Im not 100% but ive herd that the mk1 style coil is single coil.
25. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #25 20th November 2012, 19:04

    Turbo that bad boy 1.1 and get real flames
26. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

    #26 20th November 2012, 19:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by II_IFAN_II No. On my vtr it does not make any difference on launching because it not powerful enough to need launch control to start with. So a 1.1 will not benefit from it at all..... + a sport cat is still a cat so it would still destroy it... Im not 100% but ive herd that the mk1 style coil is single coil.

    http://www.106parts.com/s2/page1.php...4=49&part=2647
    
    This is the coil itself.
    
    Ill let you know once its working wether it makes better starts. So atm Im getting a terrible missfire with it connect. Cant find anything to try.
27. JHolden94 Newbie Joined: Oct 2012 Shrewsbury Posts: 14 C2 by Loeb

    #27 21st November 2012, 18:01

    Bumppp, not found a solution yet. Its the same coilpack as many other models so cant understand why it isnt working.