Best exhaust for a mk2 VTS?

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Essex Posts: 841 Citroen Saxo VTS
    #1
    I've looked at so many. I've whittled it down to a few...

    Supersprint 2" race system

    Power flow system

    Saxsport 2" race system

    Opinions? Go.
  2. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #2
    I'd never even consider fitting a powerflow to any of my cars.
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  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos
    #3
    LOL at powerflow.

    Supersprint / kamracing

    then saxsport IMO.
  4. Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411
    #4
    Sod them three. . just get a scaffold pipe
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
    #5
    powerflows tend to be rubbish. just stainless pipe welded onto a standard mid pipe with a tip for £250 usually. the tips can look nice, but they dont flow well and certainly arent tested over and over for performance.

    ive had both, saxsport was really really good quality, did 40,000 and still looked new with a polish and it doesnt attract attention!
    whereas, the supersprint though looks the best looks like a rally pipe, and people often ask if you have a rally exhaust on the car, fine, unless its a police man.
    both with a 4/2/1 scream!! properly, noisy if you dont have a centre silencer.
    may be placebo, but i felt the supersprint made the car feel quicker than the saxsport. sounded the best, the saxsport was abit zinggy if thats a word?
    supersprint wasnt stainless, got rusty after 20k or so, no big deal.

    your call, both brilliantly suited to a saxo. its evo vs subaru debate. some say one, some the other, no real defining argument.
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  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by m4tt274 View Post
    supersprint wasnt stainless, got rusty after 20k or so, no big deal.

    your call, both brilliantly suited to a saxo. its evo vs subaru debate. some say one, some the other, no real defining argument.
    With regards to the rusty SS. Go for Kamracing as it's stainless.

    And I think that last line sums it up spot on
  7. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #7
    If you're sad like me just clean the backbox It will rust anyway inside out but it will keep the outside of it clean if you dont want it looking rusty..

    Go for stainless..
  8. Newbie Joined: Aug 2012 York Posts: 14 Saxo VTS
    #8
    i love pipers to be fair , i dont like pure raspyness and dont like the look of supersprints so went for piper and its nice
  9. L-plater Joined: Sep 2012 Grimsby Posts: 87 98 Saxo VTS 11 Mini JCW
    #9
    I would and did go for kam racing stainless system. Looks and sounds glorious!
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by m4tt274 View Post
    powerflows tend to be rubbish. just stainless pipe welded onto a standard mid pipe with a tip for £250 usually. the tips can look nice, but they dont flow well and certainly arent tested over and over for performance.

    ive had both, saxsport was really really good quality, did 40,000 and still looked new with a polish and it doesnt attract attention!
    whereas, the supersprint though looks the best looks like a rally pipe, and people often ask if you have a rally exhaust on the car, fine, unless its a police man.
    both with a 4/2/1 scream!! properly, noisy if you dont have a centre silencer.
    may be placebo, but i felt the supersprint made the car feel quicker than the saxsport. sounded the best, the saxsport was abit zinggy if thats a word?
    supersprint wasnt stainless, got rusty after 20k or so, no big deal.

    your call, both brilliantly suited to a saxo. its evo vs subaru debate. some say one, some the other, no real defining argument.

    summed it up perfectly to be honest!!

    i have a supersprint on mine and fucking love it, such a child in tunnels etc haha.
  11. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Essex Posts: 841 Citroen Saxo VTS
    #11
    Think it's decided, will be going for the 2" kam racing stainless steel system!

    I pick my VTS up on Sunday (bough it off here), so after Christmas I have a few plans
  12. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2009 Rack City, Isle of Man Posts: 4127 GS300, MK1 VTS, Katy M 1190
    #12
    OMP, if you can find one.
  13. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ed-bradley View Post
    OMP, if you can find one.
    loud, expensive and not a great fit. Fabled in their absence but no-one bought them when they were in production..
  14. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    loud, expensive and not a great fit. Fabled in their absence but no-one bought them when they were in production..
    Thats interesting, I've not looked into the OMP zorst, just assumed it would be good quality.

    Makes sense why hardly any about then.

    Thoughts on BTB while we're discussing brands etc? Another one rated highly on here, but one I have no experience with.
  15. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #15
    seen a few omps
    stupidly loud

    kinda why i want one lmao
  16. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #16
    The OMP were ok, but they were rally exhaust systems where db limits were high. I'd say the saxo would tip 100 db with one so you are not going to get near a track. We found they often needed work to fit them to the manifold etc as they did not come with flanges. A bit of welding to sort but its a job you don't want to do.

    The reason no-ones seen them is they have been discontinued since 2009.

    lol @ alex. We could make you one just as loud.
  17. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #17
    haha tbh guys i like getting on track
    allready a little worried for noise limits next year first "test fires" are about 87 db at 2.5/3k revs :/
    8.2k limit i think im boned
  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #18
    Edwards Motorsport ftw.

    I've fitted an OMP to a 205 with a mate, needed the hangers chopping and welding to make it fit properly!

    Kev, please don't sell loud exhausts, banish the chavs!
  19. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #19
    Theres always a way to sort the noise!
  20. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #20
    there are but they will add restrictions in the system

    im guessing it may level off up the revs but no way of knowing till i can get it up there
  21. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #21
    in reality it probably will not restrict by that much. You might lose 1 bhp with a bigger mid silencer, maybe less
  22. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #22
    inlet noise though is a different ball game thats my issue
  23. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jay_ View Post
    Thoughts on BTB while we're discussing brands etc? Another one rated highly on here, but one I have no experience with.
    I ran one for years. If I were doing it again id still buy one. But then I cannot stand the wet fart sounding pea shooters everyone on here bums.
  24. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #24
    my only gripe with btb is the sheer weight of the system
  25. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #25
    http://www.edwardsmotorsport.com/

    as used by the SB engined Mango Saxo.
  26. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #26
    seen jps exhaust im consdering going to mike for my next setup as i need it to go over the gearbox to allow space for other things
  27. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #27
    I doubt there is space to do that, unless you have a C2, or its just the downpipe, but it'll be wiggly as fook !
  28. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #28
    its going to be tight yea
    but im thinking with a cable shift BE i can run the cables elsewhere and create a little space that way rather than linkages