ZZR600 Bike Carbs

1. Project_Hilda Newbie Joined: Dec 2012 Portsmouth Posts: 13 02 Lexus IS200 73 Hillman Imp VTR

   #1 10th December 2012, 21:14

   Has anyone had experience using ZZR600 carbs on the 8v VTR? Looking at a set I speak but wanted advice first.
   
   Thanks
   
   Tim
2. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #2 10th December 2012, 21:19

   ideally you want bodies not carbs
   
   but if you must have carbs..there are better our there then zzr carbs
3. Project_Hilda Newbie Joined: Dec 2012 Portsmouth Posts: 13 02 Lexus IS200 73 Hillman Imp VTR

   #3 10th December 2012, 21:25

   My budget doesnt stretch to TBS. The company is only offering ZZR600. What is recommended
4. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #4 10th December 2012, 21:28

   what company?
   
   and what vtr..are you planning to convert it to dizzy?
   
   what is your budget...can pic bodies up cheap tbf..make and inlet which should cost the same no matter bodies or carbs
   
   then just need to sort the management out
5. Project_Hilda Newbie Joined: Dec 2012 Portsmouth Posts: 13 02 Lexus IS200 73 Hillman Imp VTR

   #5 10th December 2012, 21:30

   I set a budget of £1000 inc ecu ie omex 200. The company is off ebay. I am running a black top vtr engine from a 1998 model.
   
   Im more than happy to buy a used set but cant find any
   
   The inlet manifold with the bike carbs is £320 so that with the omex 200 would come to £750 so would leave me money left for the fast road cam
6. user_34323 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 ringwood Posts: 6305 suzuki swift 1.2 sz3

   #6 10th December 2012, 21:34

   That'll be tough at that budget, but think jeff picked his bodies for around that. Might get lucky keep searching. Infact he's selling up isnt he?
7. Project_Hilda Newbie Joined: Dec 2012 Portsmouth Posts: 13 02 Lexus IS200 73 Hillman Imp VTR

   #7 10th December 2012, 21:36

   As im not a full member i cant view the for sale or wanted posts so unable to see if Jeff has a thread up.
8. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #8 10th December 2012, 21:37

   you could get a set of bodies for £50-100
   
   get an inlet made for about £200 or less
   
   get a westy loom and second hand pred for under £500...then get a cam..then mapping
   
   and save yourself alot of hassle
9. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

   #9 10th December 2012, 21:38

   jeffs offering his full setup and head for 1500!!! bargain i reckon! wish i went 16v
10. Project_Hilda Newbie Joined: Dec 2012 Portsmouth Posts: 13 02 Lexus IS200 73 Hillman Imp VTR

    #10 10th December 2012, 21:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jayline jeffs offering his full setup and head for 1500!!! bargain i reckon! wish i went 16v

    Out of my budget
11. Project_Hilda Newbie Joined: Dec 2012 Portsmouth Posts: 13 02 Lexus IS200 73 Hillman Imp VTR

    #11 10th December 2012, 21:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 you could get a set of bodies for £50-100 get an inlet made for about £200 or less get a westy loom and second hand pred for under £500...then get a cam..then mapping and save yourself alot of hassle

    Who makes the inlets? Tried searching for the preds but appears quite hard to get. Pm me if you have details.
    Thanks
12. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #12 10th December 2012, 21:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Project_Hilda Out of my budget

    Mate in all honesty unless you can weld up your own manifold there is very little chance you will do carb's for under 1k.
13. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #13 10th December 2012, 21:53

    most fabricating companies will make one..just need to find a local fabricator
    
    and in all honesty
    
    speaking form experience..budget builds always go over budget..so you nee a bigger one really, youve set a DIY budget
    
    and by that i mean, do everything yourself or through mates
14. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #14 10th December 2012, 21:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 most fabricating companies will make one..just need to find a local fabricator and in all honesty speaking form experience..budget builds always go over budget..so you nee a bigger one really, youve set a DIY budget and by that i mean, do everything yourself or through mates

    He's set a diy budget that even I couldn't keep to fabricating everything myself and doing all the work. In the long run carb's cost just as much as bike boddies after setting the carb's up and re jetting them to suit.
15. Project_Hilda Newbie Joined: Dec 2012 Portsmouth Posts: 13 02 Lexus IS200 73 Hillman Imp VTR

    #15 10th December 2012, 22:06

    I have a mechanic doing all the work. The build is over 6k as this engine is going in a classic car. I think that 1k for what is only half the performance parts is suitable as im not bothered with TBS. The cam and manifold will come in my later budget. If i can get used then awesome.
16. Project_Hilda Newbie Joined: Dec 2012 Portsmouth Posts: 13 02 Lexus IS200 73 Hillman Imp VTR

    #16 10th December 2012, 22:07

    End of the day im a newb looking for advice. Im not expecting to set bhp records just 115bhp suits me. Anyway thats almost 3x standard 875cc imp had!
17. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #17 11th December 2012, 01:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bedford126 He's set a diy budget that even I couldn't keep to fabricating everything myself and doing all the work. In the long run carb's cost just as much as bike boddies after setting the carb's up and re jetting them to suit.

    
    i know mate, im not advising him go carbs, i posted up about bodies, but hes gonna need to stretch the budget a bit
    
    it is possible, but no unless your doing everything yourslef or by a mate
18. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #18 11th December 2012, 01:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Project_Hilda End of the day im a newb looking for advice. Im not expecting to set bhp records just 115bhp suits me. Anyway thats almost 3x standard 875cc imp had!

    then spend your grand wisely
    
    source a vts conversion, 300 easy
    
    get some cams and a mani..easy done for £300 or less, decent air filter, 80
    
    save the rest and go faster then your vtr ever would with the same budget
19. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #19 11th December 2012, 09:30

    I can sell you a downdraft carb manifold for that engine £150
    find some idf carbs from and old alfa flat four engine ,but as already said t/bodies +ecu are the way if you must tune the 8v
20. scottie_436 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 449

    #20 11th December 2012, 09:35

    Duno if mentioned above... But you can use the standard ecu to run carbs. Its quite happy supplying ignition only. Not ideal for the best performance.. But then neither are carbs lol
    
    My mate ran zzr600 bodies on a homemade manifold on his 8v s2 rallye using the standard ecu as ignition only. It didnt even put the eml light on.
    
    Secret with carbs is balancing them properly and getting the jetting right.
    
    Mate brought a balancing kit of ebay for 20 quid, and ended up through trial and error with the jets drilled out to 1.6mm. Worked well for a diy conversion

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21. Project_Hilda Newbie Joined: Dec 2012 Portsmouth Posts: 13 02 Lexus IS200 73 Hillman Imp VTR

    #21 11th December 2012, 22:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman I can sell you a downdraft carb manifold for that engine £150 find some idf carbs from and old alfa flat four engine ,but as already said t/bodies +ecu are the way if you must tune the 8v

    Think i have seen these on gmc site. Looks good. Please pm me
22. MonkeyKnifeFight Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 Worle Posts: 118 Recaro'd SG Cup

    #22 12th December 2012, 19:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Project_Hilda Who makes the inlets?

    www.boggbros.co.uk/
23. Project_Hilda Newbie Joined: Dec 2012 Portsmouth Posts: 13 02 Lexus IS200 73 Hillman Imp VTR

    #23 17th December 2012, 20:56

    Spoke to Bogg Brothers and they recommended their inlet with a set of CBR600 carbs so thats what im going for. Also will run a megajolt system but now cant decide on a cam. Newman fast road or Catcam fast road cam decisions decisions