SaxPlee

13th December 2012, 14:14

As ive already done my research on this particular member, I know that Communication between himself and buyers is quite limited as i know of his work arrangements. I have been very patient with Saxplee and i have almost waited a Month for my Wind deflectors to turn up. And to be honest, this is Unacceptable.

On the 15th of November, i sent payment to Saxplee's Email address and payed him VIA paypal in full as "PAYMENT" (See Attachment Screenshot)

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I then sent him an Private message straight away to let him know.

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At this point. I start to become on edge, as he only replies when i message him first. as a Seller, i would expect him to give me most up to date information ive payed money and been very patient.

Give me the service i have payed for.

it goes on....

I message im frequently after this and SUPRISE no answer, aware that he often works away and doesnt have access to messages, i begin to dig deeper, i find that he is online pretty much everyday, checking from his last login date. i become worried. message him again stating that i can see his activity... nothing.

So after his reply on the 26th of November, i have heard NOTHING onwards. This is Appalling. i have been waiting up to a month for this item. and get next to no response.

I then find that his For Sale thread is still active, and to my suprise... i write on this thread asking where my wind deflectors are. and i am ignored.

He just merely rights "bump" and doesnt even acknowledge that ive been attempting to contact him.

This is Absolutely Rude.

Almost a month has gone by. i am willing to go through legal action, it seems alot for £30 payment for a bit of plastic.

But after this, that is the next step.

I hope and can get some assistance with this matter.

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13th December 2012, 15:02

£30?!

they are available on ebay brand new for less.

13th December 2012, 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlawlan69

£30?!

they are available on ebay brand new for less.

Exactly what I was thinking. About £25 posted!

13th December 2012, 15:24

i couldnt find Team Heko' for that price. but if they havnt been posted ill get some from somewhere else...

Its just my luck! as soon as i go to buy some EVERYONE sells like for like 15 AHHHH

:'(

13th December 2012, 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamallywhan

i couldnt find Team Heko' for that price. but if they havnt been posted ill get some from somewhere else...

Its just my luck! as soon as i go to buy some EVERYONE sells like for like 15 AHHHH

:'(

I have some i bought from ebay and they are the real deal.

Get your money back, i hope you paid for goods... And buy some new ones.

13th December 2012, 15:44

im sure i did... i completely forgot which one i was.... ill look into it now...

13th December 2012, 15:49

well i had to pay a charge on top of it... does that mean anything?

13th December 2012, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamallywhan

well i had to pay a charge on top of it... does that mean anything?

If you paid the charge then its unlikely it was as goods
I wouldnt waste my time waiting for a response I would get straight onto paypal and see if you can open a dispute
this will of course depend on what you sent the payment as. because if it was a gift you are screwed.

20th December 2012, 13:56

What's the status of this?

Saxplee - you need to deal with this. This is the second suspected scammer thread raised about you.

You have PM - please don't ignore it like the one you ignored from Simon on the 13th...

20th December 2012, 14:31

The wind deflectors turned up back at my house today damaged today so I have been on the phone to Royal Mail and they are saying that its not there fault that there were damaged, so More than likely refund you, once payday comes, I am sorry for ignoring all the posts and messages, but all I knew is that they had been posted over 2 weeks ago and that I was just worried my self about been scammed my self

Will have an update, about what Royal Mail say tomorrow, they said they will call be back tomorrow

21st December 2012, 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxplee

The wind deflectors turned up back at my house today damaged today so I have been on the phone to Royal Mail and they are saying that its not there fault that there were damaged, so More than likely refund you, once payday comes, I am sorry for ignoring all the posts and messages, but all I knew is that they had been posted over 2 weeks ago and that I was just worried my self about been scammed my self

Will have an update, about what Royal Mail say tomorrow, they said they will call be back tomorrow

Now you have them back in your possession.

You should issue a refund ASAP.

Then start your claim with Royal Mail to claim back your losses afterwards.

21st December 2012, 17:32

I would refund him straight away but with it been Xmas I'm skint ATM, he will get a full refund when I get paid if that's okay with him

21st December 2012, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxplee

I would refund him straight away but with it been Xmas I'm skint ATM, he will get a full refund when I get paid if that's okay with him

But you got the money for a 4-2-1 manifold waiting, why not get the cash you claim to have waiting for one and pay this guy back.

Imo i think you never sent them, you crashed your car and wanted a corsa or something but now you got/getting another Saxo you want to keep all these items. Which of corse is understandable but you can not mess people around.

21st December 2012, 20:10

Pics of wind deflectors?
Pics of damaged box with stamp/sticker/proof of posting?
Otherwise this is a scam!

22nd December 2012, 01:21

Ban him

22nd December 2012, 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxplee

I would refund him straight away but with it been Xmas I'm skint ATM, he will get a full refund when I get paid if that's okay with him

As mentioned above, you claim to have cash to get a manifold
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=441319

You can't have it both ways.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayline

Ban him

Unfortunately I can't whilst this matter is ongoing.
Need to allow him to reply here.

22nd December 2012, 15:29

I had problems with this lad, I was going to get some dials from him so asked for his number. He gave me his number but said I am transferring my number as i got a new phone. I was unable to go collect the dials so sent a text message to the lad explaining i had to work.

It got to mid day and I received a high rate phone call from a totally different number asking where i was and do i want the dials or what?

IIrc he had issues with another member on the forum too as he was "working away" but he works at Mc Donalds?

23rd December 2012, 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bedford126

I had problems with this lad, I was going to get some dials from him so asked for his number. He gave me his number but said I am transferring my number as i got a new phone. I was unable to go collect the dials so sent a text message to the lad explaining i had to work.

It got to mid day and I received a high rate phone call from a totally different number asking where i was and do i want the dials or what?

IIrc he had issues with another member on the forum too as he was "working away" but he works at Mc Donalds?

Problems? You said you would be at mine for 9am as I finished work at 6am, waited up till 10 and did not even turn up or a d I didn't get the text

23rd December 2012, 11:04

So now you're online saxplee can you post photos if the above? Packaging, etc?

That will help people believe you.

24th December 2012, 12:38

Woah, checked is recent activity... last online... 11:08...

Lol...

26th December 2012, 16:21

I still havnt received any information from saxplee...

I want a refund.

26th December 2012, 16:38

Saxplee I have removed your access to the for sale section until this thread is updated and the problem resolved.

26th December 2012, 18:27

All making me too look the bad one but its not my fault that Royal Mail are fags.. I've said I will refund him when I get paid which is a week so all oF you calm down!

26th December 2012, 18:29

Post pictures of damage then..

26th December 2012, 18:35

As said post proof of said damage and end the thread.....

I've bought in person from you, you seemed sound, shit like this makes you look a cunt.

26th December 2012, 18:37

As above. I've asked you already to post photos of the damage / returned parcel / proof of postage etc but you just ignore the posts. If your genuine, post it up. It takes 2 minutes. If you don't, it's just much more suspicious.

26th December 2012, 19:08

Defo will avoid this chap! Sorry mate but this all sound to suspect to me! If it was me I would post pics straight away to show people I'm genuine! Also wouldn't Royal Mail ask for proff aswell?

Some people really do downgrade this site :/

27th December 2012, 21:10

jayline I'm not on this website 24/7 like some people I do have a live and a work to commit to, if you want to avoid me then fine no ones asking for input, your just jumping on the bandwagon

27th December 2012, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayline

If it was me I would post pics straight away to show people

Lol. Takes you all your time to post a pic when you're selling

27th December 2012, 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxplee

jayline I'm not on this website 24/7 like some people I do have a live and a work to commit to, if you want to avoid me then fine no ones asking for input, your just jumping on the bandwagon

Not trying to criticise you here mate, but the reason why people are slating you off is that you havent posted any evidence to show that you've tried to post the wind deflectors to him, which is making you look a bit dodgy...... you'd be doing yourself a big favour just spending 5 minutes taking a photo of the parcel and loading the photo up onto here just to show if you did make the effort of posting them..... that's all it takes to get everyone off your back

28th December 2012, 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxplee

All making me too look the bad one but its not my fault that Royal Mail are fags.. I've said I will refund him when I get paid which is a week so all oF you calm down!

What date exactly do you get paid, so the OP knows when to expect his refund.

28th December 2012, 12:45

The thing which seems to come up time and time again with these threads is the piss poor communication from sellers.

'I have been working away'

That's fine but let the buyer know that, maybe even mention it in the for sale post.
Don't tell people its going to turn up on X day and then ignore their messages because you were not able to post it until 2 days later, just let them know.

It takes 2 minutes to reply to a message and everyone has a phone these days which can access the internet so there is no excuse.

If you know you are in the right as a seller then prove it, post a picture of the damaged items.
Post a picture of the receipt which will have the date and time of postage.

Most of these 'scammer' threads can be cleared up with sellers being more on the ball in regards to communications. £30 may not seem a lot of money to some people but for others it can be a lot, hence the reason some people get worried when something has not turned up when promised.

To the seller in this discussion, personally I would not spend the money until the item has been received by the buyer. Its only £30, leave it in your paypal account until everything is complete and then spend it. You need to sort this out as soon as possible, issue a refund asap. Also, the maintain any integrity you have left as a seller, post a picture of the damaged item.

28th December 2012, 23:01

Will sort some pictures out tomorrow and find the receipt of proof of postage, and I get paid on the 6th of jan can sort refund ASAP, I am sorry about all this,

Lee

29th December 2012, 16:15

right guys sorted the pictures out for Iamallywhan, this is just proof of damage to the item, i carnt find the proof of postage, but im sure i paid by debit card so soon as my bank details come in the post for this month i will happly scan and upload the proof of payment by debit card.

its the passenger side that is damaged

this is the picture that was in my ad when i had them for sale

29th December 2012, 16:24

Pic of box with the stamp on?

29th December 2012, 16:28

Iye, posting pictures of the items on there own means nothing.

29th December 2012, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolby20

Pic of box with the stamp on?

there was not in a box they was in lots of bubble wrap, with gaffer tape around it all, they are the most awkward thing the post ever!

29th December 2012, 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed-bradley

Iye, posting pictures of the items on there own means nothing.

what am i going to do, damage some wind deflectors?

if i was lying wouldn't i of put them on my new car instead of breaking them?

29th December 2012, 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxplee

what am i going to do, damage some wind deflectors?

if i was lying wouldn't i of put them on my new car instead of breaking them?

Maybe, Maybe not..

Its been known for it too happen before. Ain't nobody got time fo' dat.
They may have been damaged before hand or some shit and you're trying to push them on.

29th December 2012, 16:36

You'd surely keep the receipt/proof of posting, especially is you're claiming compensation back from the Royal Mail

This whole story smells funny....

29th December 2012, 17:53

To be honest, im still not convinced... i will have to see the invoice on your bank statement for me to believe it...

29th December 2012, 17:56

Check out his new car in progress section

29th December 2012, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxplee

there was not in a box they was in lots of bubble wrap, with gaffer tape around it all, they are the most awkward thing the post ever!

If you ever sent them....

29th December 2012, 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxplee

there was not in a box they was in lots of bubble wrap, with gaffer tape around it all, they are the most awkward thing the post ever!

Never tried to wrap a dead body then have you. -_-
Thats awkward.

29th December 2012, 20:16

OPs broke them removing them from his old Saxo. He's put them up for sale, some dude bought them thinking they were legit. Thread up, said scammer pretends they wernt broke.

dat how it goes enit.

29th December 2012, 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prickle

OPs broke them removing them from his old Saxo. He's put them up for sale, some dude bought them thinking they were legit. Thread up, said scammer pretends they wernt broke.

dat how it goes enit.

Trust me, I've had them out a few times before they were for sale, and I took the picture off them for my ad the time I took them out to sell so I didn't break them taking out of my car

29th December 2012, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxplee

Trust me, I've had them out a few times before they were for sale, and I took the picture off them for my ad the time I took them out to sell so I didn't break them taking out of my car

Trust you?

Look where the OPs trust in you has got.

30th December 2012, 20:11

Taking nothing away from the fact that the guy needs to give a refund, however I obviously missed the part where people on the internetz had the right to demand to see someones bank statement or when they get paid.

30th December 2012, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxplee

Trust me, I've had them out a few times before they were for sale, and I took the picture off them for my ad the time I took them out to sell so I didn't break them taking out of my car

Im just putting it out there

30th December 2012, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth_R

Taking nothing away from the fact that the guy needs to give a refund, however I obviously missed the part where people on the internetz had the right to demand to see someones bank statement or when they get paid.

It's easier to show them, cba with all the hassle, I'm my a scammer never scammed anyone in my life and don't intend to start now, I couldn't care what other users thing about me I just want the buyer to know that I did not try or intend to scam him!

30th December 2012, 23:19

then pm him a pick of the wrapping/label, and send a refund. dishing out shit like bank statements is not appropriate for the internet

30th December 2012, 23:25

To be fair most scammers grab the money and then fuck off but Saxplee is still active and pleading his case, not the telltale characteristics of someone looking to exploit another person for financial gain.

30th December 2012, 23:38

If he was a scammer then as said zbove he wouldnt plee or damage perfectly good deflectors.. please dont post your bank statemwnts on here.. you all need to grow up abit!

31st December 2012, 00:21

Iamallywhan will get his full refund, even if i was to crop around my bank statement just to prove to people Im not a scammer and that i did post the ite, and hopefully doesn't effect me maybe selling in the future, like someone mentioned, scammers normally fuck off with there money and do not plee there case, i am happy just to crop and upload around the post office charge that comes up on my statement, but all these users jumping on the case that's it has nothing but jack shit to do with you this between me and Iamallywhan, not all the bored twats trying to find something to entertain them, while they got nothing else better to do than to jump on the bandwagon, But to make me look like a scammer when Im 100% far from a scammer!

just pisses me off that, most of the users on here are positive that Im a scammer and only a few people have stuck up for me!

and even a few of you even thought that i would damage my own goods, just so that it looked genuine! if i was lying wouldn't i just stick them back in the post to Iamallywhan and live happily ever after!

RANT OVER!!

31st December 2012, 00:25

It has something to do with the mods when someone reports a suspected scam on our forum though dude, don't forget that. If it all clears up, no problem, we close the thread, all is well.

This isn't our first roller coaster and it won't be the last. Unfortunately people HAVE been scammed on here in the past so people aren't that trusting...

31st December 2012, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

It has something to do with the mods when someone reports a suspected scam on our forum though dude, don't forget that. If it all clears up, no problem, we close the thread, all is well.

This isn't our first roller coaster and it won't be the last. Unfortunately people HAVE been scammed on here in the past so people aren't that trusting...

yeah true, but its frustrating that people are suspecting me of robbing someone, even if are lass suspects me of leaving the toilet seat up when i haven't it frustrated me, cause its at the end of the day i didn't!

31st December 2012, 00:33

Well, without rubbing it in, the sooner the lad is refunded the sooner this is closed

31st December 2012, 00:39

The issue is you have taken someone's money and they have not received the goods.

Whether a scammer or not if the buyer has not received their goods then they should be fully refunded or if possible a replacement sent.

Unfortunately you have not done yourself any favours by failing to post up a photo of the receipt from the post office, I very much doubt any of the accusations of damaging them yourself would have cropped up if a photo of the receipt or a photo of the package returned to you damaged with royal mails stickers over it had been posted up.

I very much doubt you are a scammer but taking money from someone and failing to refund or replace is classed as scamming.

Hopefully this is resolved soon and both party's can be happy and continue using the forum.

Ps - agree with you that they are a bitch to wrap although I wouldn't hold out much hope for compensation from Royal Mail.

31st December 2012, 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan-Subtle

The issue is you have taken someone's money and they have not received the goods.

Whether a scammer or not if the buyer has not received their goods then they should be fully refunded or if possible a replacement sent.

Unfortunately you have not done yourself any favours by failing to post up a photo of the receipt from the post office, I very much doubt any of the accusations of damaging them yourself would have cropped up if a photo of the receipt or a photo of the package returned to you damaged with royal mails stickers over it had been posted up.

I very much doubt you are a scammer but taking money from someone and failing to refund or replace is classed as scamming.

Hopefully this is resolved soon and both party's can be happy and continue using the forum.

Ps - agree with you that they are a bitch to wrap although I wouldn't hold out much hope for compensation from Royal Mail.

i have explained about refunding him if you read the posts, and he will receive a full refund on the 6th of January, i 100% can confirm this.

31st December 2012, 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxplee

i have explained about refunding him if you read the posts, and he will receive a full refund on the 6th of January, i 100% can confirm this.

Good for you, just check your not working away

Oh btw there is no bandwagon just people getting a point across.

31st December 2012, 00:52

Yeh read the complete thread, not ideal as its not the buyers fault for your financial issues but I suppose if its the best you can do then it will have to do.

Could be worse, you could have done a Nik Hewitt.

31st December 2012, 00:57

Wow there s anime I've not heard in a long time!

31st December 2012, 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

Wow theres a name I've not heard in a long time!

Corrected for you seen as vipers not here

31st December 2012, 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan-Subtle

Corrected for you seen as vipers not here

iPad / schoolboy error

31st December 2012, 14:22

This should have been sorted out via PM between yourself and the buyer.
But your lack of response to the buyer (and to a pm sent by me) meant that the buyer had no choice other than to bring the matter into the public forum for all to see.

Also if you had refunded the buyer once item was back in your procession.
This thread would have been closed ages ago, and you wouldn't have lost your access to the for sale section.

3rd January 2013, 15:01

I have received a full refund. shame it took over a month... But anyway... thanks to you guys for all the Help!

3rd January 2013, 15:10

IBTL.
Yes.

3rd January 2013, 15:11

Pleased it's now resolved. I have PM'd you.

/closed.