Important! : Mk1 manifold to decat mk2 vtr

1. James93 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2012 Gravesend, Kent Posts: 727 106 GTi, MK2 Saxo VTR, Corsa C SXi,

   #1 22nd January 2013, 14:05

   Looking to go the poverty spec route for the time being to decat my MK2 VTR as Saxsport with a cat just sounds awful!
   
   Ive heard u can get a MK1 Manifold and that will do the trick, my mate said he didnt have to relocate his oil filter on his 02' VTR, is this the case? or do i need to relocate it? is there a better guide on the site as the one on here im struggling to follow i cant work out where the new filter etc goes does it screw onto where u take the old filter off or elsewhere etc?
   
   In short, can a MK1 CAT-FREE manifold fit onto my MK2 without fudging about with the filter?
2. DJVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 northamptonshire Posts: 719 saxo furio/vtr

   #2 22nd January 2013, 14:18

   It will clear you're filter no probs but I found the lambda sensor wouldn't go on cus or the oil filter
3. James93 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2012 Gravesend, Kent Posts: 727 106 GTi, MK2 Saxo VTR, Corsa C SXi,

   #3 22nd January 2013, 14:38

   How did u get round that fella? apparently some have the lambda lower down so I'm in search for one of those but seem to be hard to come by
4. DJVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 northamptonshire Posts: 719 saxo furio/vtr

   #4 22nd January 2013, 14:45

   I put my standared one back on and I'm now sat in the garrage and about to fit a 4-2-1 sorry m sure that didnt help
5. James93 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2012 Gravesend, Kent Posts: 727 106 GTi, MK2 Saxo VTR, Corsa C SXi,

   #5 22nd January 2013, 14:47

   Thats okay fella! Thanks for posting though, so looks like have to relocate the oil filter then!!
   
   So the lambda hits against the oil filter??
6. DJVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 northamptonshire Posts: 719 saxo furio/vtr

   #6 22nd January 2013, 15:04

   Mine was is the ways so much it just wouldn't fit. If you just want to decat a cheap way just smash the blindside out the cat
7. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

   #7 22nd January 2013, 16:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by James93 Looking to go the poverty spec route for the time being to decat my MK2 VTR as Saxsport with a cat just sounds awful! In short, can a MK1 CAT-FREE manifold fit onto my MK2 without fudging about with the filter?

   
   Im surprised you say the saxsport sounds bad, im really like the burble they make.
   
   And the manifold will fit, its the same exhaust pattern. Im unsure about the oil filter arrangement though.
8. James93 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2012 Gravesend, Kent Posts: 727 106 GTi, MK2 Saxo VTR, Corsa C SXi,

   #8 22nd January 2013, 16:40

   Maybe i used the wrong wording.. ot to its full potential shall we say? prefer the rasp over the deep tone it gives with the cat!
9. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

   #9 22nd January 2013, 17:17

   i took my saxsport off after putting a 4/2/1 on. I have a feeling my baffle may have gone as it was really really raspy and 'zingy' if thats the word.
10. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #10 22nd January 2013, 18:11

    The lamda WILL NOT clear the later oil filter you need to convert it
11. James93 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2012 Gravesend, Kent Posts: 727 106 GTi, MK2 Saxo VTR, Corsa C SXi,

    #11 23rd January 2013, 00:27

    I know what you mean mate Saxsports tend to have the rasp factor to them, to me raap belongs on the 106/Saxs not the fartcan noise
12. James93 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2012 Gravesend, Kent Posts: 727 106 GTi, MK2 Saxo VTR, Corsa C SXi,

    #12 23rd January 2013, 18:14

    What about drilling a hole and welding a nut further down the downpipe.. would that world??
13. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #13 23rd January 2013, 18:19

    You can buy lamda threads a nut wont work but yes you could
    
    Bung the hole by the filter drill and weld lower down
14. user_58998 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2012 oswestry Posts: 233 Saxo VTR 2003

    #14 23rd January 2013, 18:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by m4tt274 i took my saxsport off after putting a 4/2/1 on. I have a feeling my baffle may have gone as it was really really raspy and 'zingy' if thats the word.

    thats how they are supposed to sound....
15. James93 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2012 Gravesend, Kent Posts: 727 106 GTi, MK2 Saxo VTR, Corsa C SXi,

    #15 23rd January 2013, 18:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB You can buy lamda threads a nut wont work but yes you could Bung the hole by the filter drill and weld lower down

    or even cut out a square around the lambda nut and a square further down and weld them both up so the lambda will do the trick and the top part is blanked
16. James93 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2012 Gravesend, Kent Posts: 727 106 GTi, MK2 Saxo VTR, Corsa C SXi,

    #16 23rd January 2013, 20:36

    Also is the manifokd on the mk1 and mk2 the same?? and the downpipes thats different? (one with cat ine without) if thats the case couldnt i just get a mk1 downpipe?
17. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #17 24th January 2013, 16:56

    Youll need the cast manifold the bolt pcd is much larger on the cat item
18. James93 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2012 Gravesend, Kent Posts: 727 106 GTi, MK2 Saxo VTR, Corsa C SXi,

    #18 25th January 2013, 17:08

    Ok thanks so it would work if i moved the lambda sensor? where do you move it to? lower down or what?
    
    As i can get a MK1 Manifold + Downpipe for £12 and really cant be arsed with changing the filter setup and manifold every time i have MOT (July)
19. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #19 25th January 2013, 19:29

    Just put an under car cat on for mot
20. James93 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2012 Gravesend, Kent Posts: 727 106 GTi, MK2 Saxo VTR, Corsa C SXi,

    #20 25th January 2013, 23:14

    Does that work without the 2nd lamda etc? just bolt on? and woukd it work if i moved the lamda away from the pil filter?